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JBC008 said:

I thought the recent announcement said that it was in development?

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Sugoi posted August last year that the 4 episodes were already completed.

kkck said:

I suppose if we are lucky pantcelot's next stop is the goddess realm and we get to see mael get one shot while using the one.

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Wouldn't be surprised if the godess realm and mael one shotting get off screened

Me. (raw carrots are very healthy btw)

Most likely to wear the color pink.

Decent so far. The pacing is what's surprising me the most. Usually the pacing for these old series is pretty fast.

electricmastro said:

Makes me wonder if Moria would end up begging Cross Guild to take him back to Wano, since it has been established that Moria is a Wano inhabitant.

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To be honest I hope he WON'T do it. If he have at least a little bit of decency, I mean. To people of Wano he's dead for over 20 years already. Also when he "died" he stolen both Ryumas body and sword and then once he found proper shadow desecrated it by turning into zombie. Nobody in Wano know about it but HE knows what he did. If Moria really is Wano inhabitant he should have enough honor to know that he don't deserve to lead peaceful life there now that there's no Kaido. Also I kinda need backstory for "Kozuki Moria" before something like that would happen. You know, because it's hard to believe that Moria is related to Wano in any way and fact that it was mentioned only through cover story dosen't help at all.

GodSlayer666 said:

If there is no equality statement why should we assume that there is any equality between them ? There is nothing saying that Azuma is stronger than Kain, should we equalize them now ? There is nothing saying that Torafuzar or even Silver are stronger than Jackal or Ezel, should we equalize them now ? Wanna know, you convinced, i'm gonna equalize Juvia to Mira and Laxus. Giant Lucy wouldn't be able to damage the lacrima without Merc's body either.

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You are being purposefully obtuse. The 7 Kin showed their rankings via feats and Ultear was the leader. Mira and Erza struggled with Azuma while Lucy was being beaten by Kain.

Silver is a demon slayer and his powers were effective on Mard when Gray used them. Kyoka is the leader and Seilah is her partner. Jackal lost to Natsu at the start of the arc, Seilah and Kyoka beat Mira and Erza's strongest forms (sitri and armadura).

The CB's have shown no feats showing Motherglare and Levia > Scissor Runner. Anchor beat Gray and Juvia when Juvia had a type advantage and could affect Anchor's water with her own water magic.
Laxus is taking damage from Scissor Runner and Mirajane hurt Levia in the most recent chapter so you can't even claim Laxus' opponent is stronger. Who is Laxus' opponent and who is Mira's now? It's a team fight.
Your argument has no validity. You are comparing different groups and contexts simplistically to push your agenda.

That's it isn't it, that's all this is about, you are clinging to Mira S Class rank like a shipwreck survivor clinging to a lifebuoy to keep from drowning. ''Give me freedom, give me fire, give m S CLass rank or i retire''. You have absolutely nothing without that, nobody would even put Mira above Lucy even before the DG power up before without this S Class rank. Mira never fought anyone comparable to Gildarts and Mira fans want her to leech other S Class by doing nothing beyond stalemating Skullion and making a shot put with a dragon STRONGER THAN HER.

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Mashima is the one clinging to Mira's S class when he said unlike most Shonen FT's rankings stay the same. Again your are being purposefully obtuse. You are comparing Mira to Richard when Mira hurt Levia and Scissor Runner together and tanked everything Laxus tanked this chapter.

This is Erza in her clear heart form vs Kyria. This is Erza's peak offensive from from the original series and this is their rematch.


This is Mira's weakest satan soul of the original series vs Skullion on her first try.


Ignoring the manga is not going to help you. You surely know Mira tied with Skullion in her base then went on to push Gray to extreme diff. You also know that this was days after Erza's peak offensive form from the original manga was not enough for Kyria. You also saw Mira dwarf Lucy,

And oh yeah Mira throwing a dragon stronger than her far away and crashing him into another to save Laxus IS a feat whether you like it or not. Mashima spoonfed you by having said Dragon be shocked by the feat and you still can't bring yourself to accept the truth.

If you don't show Mira being EXPLICITLY and unequivocally stated to be as strong as Laxus and Jellal then cope harder.

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I did you guys just can't understand what you read. You expect someone to always write LITERALLY "Mira is equal to Laxus and Jellal"
Forget that Mashima had Natsu state that the strongest enemies would be in center city so Mira OR Laxus OR Jellal would be there and show him equally excited to fight Mira as he did Laxus. It was the biggest signal to you all but you still missed it. LMAO!

You guys don't get portrayal, don't understand statements, don't value panel placement/parallels which children usually get in these series. Heck even feats are weirdly diessected and twisted to suit the denial.

Is him using Elexion soul WITH Red Lightning is his trump card, is him using it right now ? Allegria is not beating Skullion by her own words. Lmao, RL is literally a mode change like Natsu's ones. Mira is being beaten right now, what's your point ? That Mira deserves to compete in an olympic shot put ?

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Alegria beat Daemon and is hurting Levia and Scissor Runner. Stop being obtuse. Even if it was true then she is stronger now and Erza herself was shocked that Laxus beat Kyria. This is what is so funny. Erza thought Kyria was strong, was shocked Laxus beat her and could not beat her with Clear Heart and Benizakura. But of course Mira tying with Skullion in base is an anti feat.



Why? Because Mira did not fight Laxus or Misaki after? Okay but she didn't lose to any of them either and now she's fighting the same calibre of opponents as Erza and Laxus.

Red lightning is not a defensive move so using that to compare his durability to Alegria makes no sense. He doesn't defend with his peak attack.
Cope harder. Mira just hurt 2 dragons simultaneously, showed probably the best physical strength feats in the guild, shocked the dragon and saved Laxus before tanking everything elexion soul Laxus tanked.

What stops Anchor of being equal to Scissor Runner right ? Posing duo scaling ? Just like signarios and Tempester/Torafuzar?


Juvia can't harm him and need Gray assistance for that, what a good counter. And Mira also got a dragon slayer advantage now, the moment peak Gray had it against Viernes he defeated the dragon, both Mira and Laxus are failing but at least Laxus has Skullion and Kirin scaling, and the absence of RL to say he jobbed and is stronger than Mira.

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What are you even talking about? Juvia was countering his water magic with hers. You know this but are pretending it's the same as Erza slashing Motherglare, Mira tossing Scissor Runner and crashing him into Levia & Laxus matching roars and trading blows with Levia.
And yes nothing indicates that Scissor Runner is stronger than Anchor.

At Alvarez Erza with broken bones destroyed a meteor and don't even rank her higher than bloodlusted Gray and DF Gajeel back at the time, the easiest thing a protagonist can make is endure attacks from stronger enemies. Other thing, should i equalize the entire Team Natsu at Tenrou because they all endured Hades attacks? Erza also jobbed to Luso and Youko, are them stronger than her or she just jobbed and dominated them at their rematch?

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And what's your point. You're bashing Mira for tying with Skullion in her weakest form but trying to argue Erza with benizakura being outmatched by Kyria?

Face it. You have no response. You all on this forum kept using Skullion for Mira and got distracted by Erza vs Laxus but totally forgot Clear Heart & Benizakura vs Kyria. I love it! It's the one 'feat' you all can't explain away.

He never defeated them. His human form was beaten by Juvia with Gray's ice, and even when he returned in dragon form there was no sign of them being beaten.

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They are out of magic now and he's there active so we won their encounter regardless.

There is no statement, but by feats Earthbuild is the strongest and either Scissor Runner or Anchor are the weakest.

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Igneel was not at his full power and you have no feat of Scissor Runner or Anchor failing to be able to tank this so again it's still conjecture that any of the dragons scale above the other right now. And no Scissor Runner has no feat showing him be the weakest. You just think Mira's opponent would be the weakest BUT forget that Levia was hurt by Mira and Laxus is being attacked by Scissor Runner so it just makes Laxus have the weakest opponents then?

Spriggans are stated to have the higher MP than previous enemies, so everyone who defeats a spriggan alone must have powercreeped Hades, something they didn't at Tartarus. BDSK like Kirin and Misaki were directly compared to Gildarts, so defeating them is reaching Gildarts level or surpassing it. If you were portrayed to be weaker than a spriggan and later you fight someone who could one shot a spriggan, then you get stronger. Even Mira got stronger as before she was portrayed to be below spriggans wasting Allegria on minions and fighting a holding back Jacob, in 100YQ stalemating Skullion was a improvement, but that's it, she did nothing special after that, and no, olympic shot put is not special.

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COPE. Mira never faced God serena, Misaki, Laxus, Erza or Kirin after tying with Skullion in her weakest form so claiming she is not on their level because she didn't fight a Gildarts level threat is erroneous given that she is now fighting the same calibre of enemies as Erza and Laxus and is actually hurting Laxus' dragon. Erza before her Laxus fight used her peak offensive mode from the original series to get outclassed by Kyria then she had to use a new power.
You are specifically using arcs mira was not involved and ignoring the current arc where she is showing Laxus/Erza like feats vs the same type of opponents to box her into a lower tier when the narrative is clearly showing otherwise.

Everything to push Mira agenda huh
You act like if Elfman, Angel and Hoteye were just jerking around and the only thing that happened in the entire offscreen fight is what we saw onscreen. Talk about signarios equality, talk about Torafuzar and Tempester equality, why did you run from them?

Who can prove that her olympic shot put wasn't only possible thanks to their help. Hurting Levia through Scissor Runner don't upscales Mira, same way lucy wouldn't be able to destroy the lacrima without using Merc.

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You need to prove it not me. Elfman is in base and Scissor Runner himself is talking about Mira. Also that takes away nothing from her feat since it shows the level of physical strength she has to throw him and crash him into Levia in the first place. Then we actually saw those 3 do NOTHING when she was tanking Scissor Runner's attacks with Laxus.

She even dropped the same time with Laxus after they got hit and got up the same time to block the 2nd attack.

GodSlayer666 said:

If there is no equality statement why should we assume that there is any equality between them ? There is nothing saying that Azuma is stronger than Kain, should we equalize them now ? There is nothing saying that Torafuzar or even Silver are stronger than Jackal or Ezel, should we equalize them now ? Wanna know, you convinced, i'm gonna equalize Juvia to Mira and Laxus. Giant Lucy wouldn't be able to damage the lacrima without Merc's body either.

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You are being purposefully obtuse. The 7 Kin showed their rankings via feats and Ultear was the leader. Mira and Erza struggled with Azuma while Lucy was being beaten by Kain.

Silver is a demon slayer and his powers were effective on Mard when Gray used them. Kyoka is the leader and Seilah is her partner. Jackal lost to Natsu at the start of the arc, Seilah and Kyoka beat Mira and Erza's strongest forms (sitri and armadura).

The CB's have shown no feats showing Motherglare and Levia > Scissor Runner. Anchor beat Gray and Juvia when Juvia had a type advantage and could affect Anchor's water with her own water magic.
Laxus is taking damage from Scissor Runner and Mirajane hurt Levia in the most recent chapter so you can't even claim Laxus' opponent is stronger. Who is Laxus' opponent and who is Mira's now? It's a team fight.
Your argument has no validity. You are comparing different groups and contexts simplistically to push your agenda.

That's it isn't it, that's all this is about, you are clinging to Mira S Class rank like a shipwreck survivor clinging to a lifebuoy to keep from drowning. ''Give me freedom, give me fire, give m S CLass rank or i retire''. You have absolutely nothing without that, nobody would even put Mira above Lucy even before the DG power up before without this S Class rank. Mira never fought anyone comparable to Gildarts and Mira fans want her to leech other S Class by doing nothing beyond stalemating Skullion and making a shot put with a dragon STRONGER THAN HER.

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Mashima is the one clinging to Mira's S class when he said unlike most Shonen FT's rankings stay the same. Again your are being purposefully obtuse. You are comparing Mira to Richard when Mira hurt Levia and Scissor Runner together and tanked everything Laxus tanked this chapter.

This is Erza in her clear heart form vs Kyria who is skullion's subordinate on the team. This is Erza's peak offensive from from the original series.


Ignoring the manga is not going to help you. You surely know Mira tied with Skullion in her base then went on to push Gray to extreme diff. You also know that this was days after Erza's peak offensive form from the original manga was not enough for Kyria. You also saw Mira dwarf Lucy,

And oh yeah Mira throwing a dragon stronger than her far away and crashing him into another to save Laxus IS a feat whether you like it or not. Mashima spoonfed you by having said Dragon be shocked by the feat and you still can't bring yourself to accept the truth.

If you don't show Mira being EXPLICITLY and unequivocally stated to be as strong as Laxus and Jellal then cope harder.

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I did you guys just can't understand what you read. You expect someone to always write LITERALLY "Mira is equal to Laxus and Jellal"
Forget that Mashima had Natsu state that the strongest enemies would be in center city so Mira OR Laxus OR Jellal would be there and show him equally excited to fight Mira as he did Laxus. It was the biggest signal to you all but you still missed it. LMAO!

You guys don't get portrayal, don't understand statements, don't value panel placement/parallels which children usually get in these series. Heck even feats are weirdly diessected and twisted to suit the denial.

Is him using Elexion soul WITH Red Lightning is his trump card, is him using it right now ? Allegria is not beating Skullion by her own words. Lmao, RL is literally a mode change like Natsu's ones. Mira is being beaten right now, what's your point ? That Mira deserves to compete in an olympic shot put ?

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Alegria beat Daemon and is hurting Levia and Scissor Runner. Stop being obtuse. Even if it was true then she is stronger now and Erza herself was shocked that Laxus beat Kyria.

Red lightning is not a defensive move so using that to compare his durability to Alegria makes no sense. He doesn't defend with his peak attack.
Cope harder. Mira just hurt 2 dragons simultaneously, showed probably the best physical strength feats in the guild, shocked the dragon and saved Laxus before tanking everything elexion soul Laxus tanked.

What stops Anchor of being equal to Scissor Runner right ? Posing duo scaling ? Just like signarios and Tempester/Torafuzar?


Juvia can't harm him and need Gray assistance for that, what a good counter. And Mira also got a dragon slayer advantage now, the moment peak Gray had it against Viernes he defeated the dragon, both Mira and Laxus are failing but at least Laxus has Skullion and Kirin scaling, and the absence of RL to say he jobbed and is stronger than Mira.

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What are you even talking about? Juvia was countering his water magic with hers. You know this but are pretending it's the same as Erza slashing Motherglare, Mira tossing Scissor Runner and crashing him into Levia & Laxus matching roars and trading blows with Levia.
And yes nothing indicates that Scissor Runner is stronger than Anchor.

At Alvarez Erza with broken bones destroyed a meteor and don't even rank her higher than bloodlusted Gray and DF Gajeel back at the time, the easiest thing a protagonist can make is endure attacks from stronger enemies. Other thing, should i equalize the entire Team Natsu at Tenrou because they all endured Hades attacks? Erza also jobbed to Luso and Youko, are them stronger than her or she just jobbed and dominated them at their rematch?

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And what's your point. You're bashing Mira for tying with Skullion in her weakest form but trying to argue Erza with benizakura being outmatched by Kyria?

Face it. You have no response. You all on this forum kept using Skullion for Mira and got distracted by Erza vs Laxus but totally forgot Clear Heart & Benizakura vs Kyria. I love it! It's the one 'feat' you all can't explain away.

He never defeated them. His human form was beaten by Juvia with Gray's ice, and even when he returned in dragon form there was no sign of them being beaten.

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They are out of magic now and he's there active so we won their encounter regardless.

There is no statement, but by feats Earthbuild is the strongest and either Scissor Runner or Anchor are the weakest.

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Igneel was not at his full power and you have no feat of Scissor Runner or Anchor failing to be able to tank this so again it's still conjecture that any of the dragons scale above the other right now. And no Scissor Runner has no feat showing him be the weakest. You just think Mira's opponent would be the weakest BUT forget that Levia was hurt by Mira and Laxus is being attacked by Scissor Runner so it just makes Laxus have the weakest opponents then?

Spriggans are stated to have the higher MP than previous enemies, so everyone who defeats a spriggan alone must have powercreeped Hades, something they didn't at Tartarus. BDSK like Kirin and Misaki were directly compared to Gildarts, so defeating them is reaching Gildarts level or surpassing it. If you were portrayed to be weaker than a spriggan and later you fight someone who could one shot a spriggan, then you get stronger. Even Mira got stronger as before she was portrayed to be below spriggans wasting Allegria on minions and fighting a holding back Jacob, in 100YQ stalemating Skullion was a improvement, but that's it, she did nothing special after that, and no, olympic shot put is not special.




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COPE. Mira never faced God serena, Misaki, Laxus, Erza or Kirin after tying with Skullion in her weakest form so claiming she is not on their level because she didn't fight a Gildarts level threat is erroneous given that she is now fighting the same calibre of enemies as Erza and Laxus and is actually hurting Laxus' dragon. Erza before her Laxus fight used her peak offensive mode from the original series to get outclassed by Kyria then she had to use a new power.
You are specifically using arcs mira was not involved and ignoring the current arc where she is showing Laxus/Erza like feats vs the same type of opponents to box her into a lower tier when the narrative is clearly showing otherwise.

Everything to push Mira agenda huh
You act like if Elfman, Angel and Hoteye were just jerking around and the only thing that happened in the entire offscreen fight is what we saw onscreen. Talk about signarios equality, talk about Torafuzar and Tempester equality, why did you run from them?

Who can prove that her olympic shot put wasn't only possible thanks to their help. Hurting Levia through Scissor Runner don't upscales Mira, same way lucy wouldn't be able to destroy the lacrima without using Merc.

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You need to prove it not me. Elfman is in base and Scissor Runner himself is talking about Mira. Also that takes away nothing from her feat since it shows the level of physical strength she has to throw him and crash him into Levia in the first place. Then we actually saw those 3 do NOTHING when she was tanking Scissor Runner's attacks with Laxus.

She even dropped the same time with Laxus after they got hit and got up the same time to block the 2nd attack.

Mira in this chapter matched Laxus defense and arguably exceeded his and Erza's damage with Wendy's boost vs CB's (without pulling the dragonized earth energy) since she hurt 2 dragons at once but of course the fandom is pretending they don't see.