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Do you think Mouri will have a better showing than Ohmagari?
Chapter New Prince of Tennis Chapter 420 and 421 Discussion
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Isnt it because QP and Volk never fought against Someone with Radiance of Strongheart?
During QP VS Oni. It was revealed that QP fought multiple TNK users in Europe. But they are all Radiance of Joy, and Radiance of Pain Users. Oni is the first Player that Germany saw with Radiance of Strongheart.
However, somehow Kintarous Radiance of strongheart shine brighter than Oni's.
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I mean it kinda matters. Because she was able to hypnotize Sugi and do synchro. Like Seda did to Mares. Maybe Sugi's partner is related to Sedah somehow.
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Yes. At this point. Ohmagari as a scale is putting the bar at the very low.
Heck, you can make an argument Ohmagari is the worst player in G10 based on talent. He just used guts and hardwork.
Julio and Silva look strong. Ngl.
I am surprised Mares turns out to be arguably stronger than Romeo.
Who knows if Julio and Silva will be even stronger than Mares.
For Spain Hsers, we only know Medanore as strongest. We are not sure about the other 3 Hsers.
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"Regarding Ohmigari, we observed that he was a doubles specialist who excelled in his area of expertise. In contrast, other players were singles specialists who attempted to play doubles.
A player like Bertie, for instance, would struggle to defeat Cameo in a singles match because he relies heavily on his partner to counter Cameo's strengths. This is a testament to the unique demands of doubles play.
So if Bertie was Kintarou's partner, you think he could do the same when he was with Dankmark?
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I think the Q.P's Ultimate Quality is different from TNK! He beated 3 kinds of TNK users (which is quite interesting) then achieve it.
But he wasn't a TNK user! while I believe if any TNK users master all 3, the aura could be way different than Q.P's.
I think the one who achieve it, maybe her/his aura would be even stronger than Q.P!
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Mares did some solid work, but I'm not sure if she is stronger than Bismarck!
To me is more like, there are plenty bunch of players who shows that they can be in G5 level.
Romeo, Atobe, Kintaro, Mares, Sedah, Oni, Tane, Duke, Bismarck, Lord Zeus.
Then we've got Monster Trio: Monster of Monsters Mr.Volk, Boss of course, Ryoga, Medanore and they followed by:
Q.P, Amadeus, Ralph, Cameo (probably)
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Kintaro was one of the few players who after powerup didn't reach his limit!
Atobe for example, though he reached a oustanding level of playign but there was huge limit for him, and he was lucky to make it.
Tane/Akaya. Duke/Niou.
I mean if there is rematch, Atobe has this limit, or any other but Kintaro case was interesting, thogh this comes to mind:
If he starting to play a single match, he can keep using it? I mean it was one time casue of Ohmigari and Shiraishi and ... or he earned it for his lifetime?
A player like Bertie, for instance, would struggle to defeat Cameo in a singles match because he relies heavily on his partner to counter Cameo's strengths. This is a testament to the unique demands of doubles play.
So if Bertie was Kintarou's partner, you think he could do the same when he was with Dankmark?
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I think the Q.P's Ultimate Quality is different from TNK! He beated 3 kinds of TNK users (which is quite interesting) then achieve it.
But he wasn't a TNK user! while I believe if any TNK users master all 3, the aura could be way different than Q.P's.
I think the one who achieve it, maybe her/his aura would be even stronger than Q.P!
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Mares did some solid work, but I'm not sure if she is stronger than Bismarck!
To me is more like, there are plenty bunch of players who shows that they can be in G5 level.
Romeo, Atobe, Kintaro, Mares, Sedah, Oni, Tane, Duke, Bismarck, Lord Zeus.
Then we've got Monster Trio: Monster of Monsters Mr.Volk, Boss of course, Ryoga, Medanore and they followed by:
Q.P, Amadeus, Ralph, Cameo (probably)
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Kintaro was one of the few players who after powerup didn't reach his limit!
Atobe for example, though he reached a oustanding level of playign but there was huge limit for him, and he was lucky to make it.
Tane/Akaya. Duke/Niou.
I mean if there is rematch, Atobe has this limit, or any other but Kintaro case was interesting, thogh this comes to mind:
If he starting to play a single match, he can keep using it? I mean it was one time casue of Ohmigari and Shiraishi and ... or he earned it for his lifetime?
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Going back.Thank you handsome @Friss for the RAWs!
The summary is based on machine-translated content, take it with a grain of salt pls.
Mares scores consecutive service points through his Sniper and wins Spain the game. The score is now 4-3.
Kintarou pays back with the same coin on the next game, showing the Sniping had no effect on him and sending the rackets of the Spanish members flying.
Atobe asks Ryoma what's bugging him, and Echizen shockingly replies that Kintarou is always in TnK.
Keigo then wonders what's so special about this, can't Ryoma do the same? Echizen then says that when he played Tokugawa at the camp, his TnK disappeared in an instant halfway through the match. With that, the high schooler turned the tables.
Atobe remembers' Tezuka's match against Yukimura, and how his TnK disappeared whenever Yukimura stole his senses.
Oni interjects saying that you need to enjoy tennis in order to play it flawlessly, but doing that for 3 straight sets should be impossible. Kintarou's feelings for Ohmagari and his teammates who entrusted him with his racket are what is driving his Tenimuhou to evolve.
Tanegashima then says there's no one who wouldn't fall for Ryuji's charms ☆ (lol). Mifune then thinks that Ohmagari managed to awaken Kin and now Japan can win.
QP: I've encountered many kinds of Lights of Pride but...
Volk: ...never one that shined so brightly.
...the Radiance of Confidence.
The score is leveled 4-4 and the Spanish are frustrated with Kintarou's Volcano Serve.
Ohmagari points out that next is Seda's serve, so this is their chance to finally break. All they have to do is make sure Colón doesn't get to use his Sniper shots...
...and then Spain wins the game anywaylol nice Ohmagari. One more game and Spain will win the match.
The 3 Rikkai demons discuss how even though Ohmagari is serving, the pressure is on the Japanese pair while the Spanish can play without stress.
Sanada asks Ohmagari to endure this critical moment... and the high schooler replies that he knows that without "Black Cap" telling him!
Ohmagari serves with his left hand so Mares expects him to also use his left to attack... but instead, he plays serve and volley and scores with a right-handed backhand. Just 3 more points, they can do this!
"Give me a break..."
Seda gets ready to use Nitoryu!
The title is from Wild, one of Kintarou's songs.
Seda scores and now it's 15-15. Ohmagari remembers that he can instantly respond to his opponents' techniques.
MANEJAR DOS ESPADAS! (handling two swords in broken Spanish)
As the Spanish celebrate and point out Seda stole Ohmagari's Nitoryu, Medanore comments that he quickly changed the flow of the game.
Oni realises that Seda had saved his ability to copy Nitoryu until now so he could shake Ohmagari's spirit. Kintarou wants to help his partner so he immediately goes for a poach... but Mares doesn't miss and hits right where Kin should have been.
Ohmagari dives and manages to return, telling Kintarou to get ready for the next attack. Seda fails to get a clean hit and Kin uses this opportunity to score with a smash. As Ryuji tells Kintarou that his poach was too early, Byoudouin comments that Ohmagari's strong spirit started a revolution.
The game goes on and now Spain is somehow at match point. Japan perseveres but has started to feel some discomfort...
"Bro, I think my arm is going numb," says Kintarou.
Ohmagari then notices that Mares has started to hit Snipers even with low slices... it's only a matter of time until they lose... so he goes to the net and attacks with all his might!
"I entrust my life to you, Kintarou!"
The topspin shot goes straight at Seda, and Mares then tells him to get out of the way. It's the perfect chance to hit a Sniper...
"AIM AND SHOOT!!"
"...you got me," says Ohmagari, smiling. He throws his racket behind him, making Mares miss.
"So that's what he meant when he said he entrusted his life..."
"LET'S GO, THIS IS MY TWO-HANDED STYLE!!
SUPER-PROPELLED HIGH-POWERED KIN DALGONA MOUSSE!!!"(this was so hard to translate and the Kin Dalgona part is surely wrong)
Kintarou's spinning confuses Mares, who can't tell where the ball will come from.
"I'm sorry, Sis..."
Flashback to Spain's camp. Seda asked Nanjirou what kind of teammate was Sugi's partner.
Nanjirou replied that she understood all the thoughts of the old lady, and controlled the one-person doubles by being in perfect sync. Winning Wimbledon was only possible because of the strength of both of them, and Sugi surely knew about that.
"Synchronised..."
Back in the present, Spain's pair is in Synchro and Seda dives straight at the ball. He manages to return but the ball hits the net and...
"...aramenoma...aramenoma...aramenoma"
"...aramenoma"
Romeo realises that Seda forcibly broke Mares' psyche in order to make this play.
The ball drops and...
Game and match, Spain!
Mares jumps on Seda, celebrating. All the bleeding MSer can say is that it hurts.
Spain completed the comeback in D2 and now it's 1-1.
Ohmagari approaches Kintarou, telling him they lost, but Kintarou exclaims that the match was a lot of fun.
"But...why are my eyes sweating?"
"It's ok, take it slow. Tennis will wait for you, Kintarou".
Wild starts playingI ain't translating that.
Kintarou stands up, shakes hands with Seda, and gives Ryoma a high five.
Seda returns Romeo his book since he doesn't need it anymore.
Julio: "What book?"
"Seda, you are aiming for that, too?"
Seda, unmasked, turns around and screams:
"KINTAROU TOOYAMA!!!
Can I... also become one?
A Hero of Justice."
Hiatus next month.
I like how Nanjirou is so hands on for each Spain Players. He have a relationship for each regular member. I thought he doesnt have any convo with Sedah. But turns out, he is even the one who gave him the idea of 1 Man Synchro by Hypnosis
Mares, we all know they have like Father and Daughter relationship.
Romeo idolized Nanjirouh even when the former was a kid. And The Coach ordered him to put himself in a dangerous situation.
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Bertie was seemingly chasing a lot so I'm not sure he'd pair well with Kin. It would be better for him if Kin would stay in the back to cover whatever he cannot return on his own (as Dankmar did).
For what it's worth, 321 implies that QP's God Aaura / Ultimate Aura is some sort of TnK.
I'd like to think Kin's evolution was permanent, but perhaps it only activates if his doubles partner can motivate Kintarou in order for it to work (like how Angel Mode was exclusive to Kirihara-Shiraishi).
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About Kin, as long as he feel that way he got it, as mentioned by Oni: you can't feel joy all the time, neither Kin couldn't but he got lucky.
So next time, as long as he can keep his flame inside, he can use it.
You are right, but there is a fact: Q.P is not a TNK user who unlocked all three.
However there is question that may changing my mind about this thing:
Was Kintarou using 2 Aura at the same time?
If he, meaning there is 3! In that case there must be something different than Q.P's.
But if not, what was red flame around him at the beginning?
I guess is more like:
You got A,B. Having A gives you advantage of using B (you just using B) rather than having B alone. So if C comes out along A,B. Then you got more advantage than ever!
Since Kintaro's aura was shining more than anyone, (thought we can argue cause of his strong/pure feelings)
Personally I like to see that there is an aura kinda combination of 3 that Equal/Better than QP's
)About Bertie:
He needed a satellite like Danmark, that's why they got howling.
And that is the point cause he couldn't done it without Dankmark! I used strongest pair and ofc little Volk in different situations to tell he can't be as good as when he is with Danmark.
That goes for Ohmagari!
You can't expect a double specialist to play as single in a double match.
Yukimura and Yanagi weren't playing singles on their own, so he has some kind of advantages there, while Mares/Sedah weren't.
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Huh, so if I understand this right, Seda/Mares move past to another level as a pair at the end because of Syncho? Could they post a threat to doubles pro now because of that?
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Even though I was liking the theory of Kin combining auras, I still don't think it's the case and he just evolved his own. Maybe Confidence has that advantage over the other 2 Lights, the more you put your heart in others the stronger it is.About Kin, as long as he feel that way he got it, as mentioned by Oni: you can't feel joy all the time, neither Kin couldn't but he got lucky.
So next time, as long as he can keep his flame inside, he can use it.
You are right, but there is a fact: Q.P is not a TNK user who unlocked all three.
However there is question that may changing my mind about this thing:
Was Kintarou using 2 Aura at the same time?
If he, meaning there is 3! In that case there must be something different than Q.P's.
But if not, what was red flame around him at the beginning?
I guess is more like:
You got A,B. Having A gives you advantage of using B (you just using B) rather than having B alone. So if C comes out along A,B. Then you got more advantage than ever!
Since Kintaro's aura was shining more than anyone, (thought we can argue cause of his strong/pure feelings)
Personally I like to see that there is an aura kinda combination of 3 that Equal/Better than QP's
About Bertie:
He needed a satellite like Danmark, that's why they got howling.
And that is the point cause he couldn't done it without Dankmark! I used strongest pair and ofc little Volk in different situations to tell he can't be as good as when he is with Danmark.
That goes for Ohmagari!
You can't expect a double specialist to play as single in a double match.
Yukimura and Yanagi weren't playing singles on their own, so he has some kind of advantages there, while Mares/Sedah weren't.
Yeah Bertie couldn't even handle the Homerun on his own, it sent him flying (whereas someone with the SSS could reflect it or someone skilled enough like Bismarck can negate it entirely).
Yukimura-Yanagi were playing doubles but, as they said, they lacked experience and their strategy was too simplistic. Also, I guess their styles didn't match that well compared to all the different combos we have seen so far (even if Yips + Data could get a Howling in the long run). Mares was sort of playing singles but Seda was finding different ways to support him (ala Kikumaru and Oishi).
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No, Seda broke Mares' mind to force Synchro. It's a one-time thing and he gave back Romeo's book right after the match.
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I Believe we will get see the last Radiance of pain maybe Ryoga or Medanore
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or maybe Ryoma? he may "lose" his tennis against Ryoga, by suffering that "loss" he'd unlock it, and also get back his tennis?
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I believe Tezuka and Siegfried have already shown the radiance of Pain.
From Ryoma after getting back his tennis, he will get something new possibly.
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We assumed all along that we had seen this aura already but maybe this isn't the case? Given that we just learnt that Confidence can get boosted, there's a chance Pain has slightly different properties as well... and Medanore would be a perfect user, since he was out of commission for long because of an injury.
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Btw I still think Irie will take his place through the lucky loser system that was never used.
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Agree on this.
Medanore suffered pain with his Injury. He fits Radiance of Pain.
Though, my blazing hot take is
Medanore will have a Kijin.
And Can clone himself on the court with his split personality.
So One is the Mean Medanore, and the other one is Kind Medanore. And then He/They can make a Howling.
On top of having a Kijin.
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Let's have a quick recap on TNK Users and what kind they have:
Ryoma - Joy
Kintarou and Oni - Confidence/Strongheart (Same term according to @Hardy)
Tezuka - ???
Siegfried - ???
Wait what? We only have 5 Users so far???
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I think the split personality will just allow him to drastically change playstyles depending on what he needs. It could be that the "good" Medanore has TnK and the "bad" one has a Ki Jin.
I wonder if he's more... anticipated than Ryoga? I'm certainly looking forward want to see him on the court the most.
Well it's those 5 + Nanji but yes. It's plenty enough imo. The Pair Puris said that Jirou was close to getting it, too, but he's dead as a character.
Imo Tezuka has Joy and Siegfried Pain, but it's pretty much just guessing.
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I think if there was radiance of pain, it would be mentioned!
I think Medanore can produce howling +synchronization by himself
Whatever it is, it must be something out of reach of Ryoga's. Otherwise he could have devoured it.
Ryoma has this situation to unlocked radiance of pain, Pain of losing his tennis of man who loves it a lot.
I think Medanore can produce howling +synchronization by himself
Whatever it is, it must be something out of reach of Ryoga's. Otherwise he could have devoured it.
Ryoma has this situation to unlocked radiance of pain, Pain of losing his tennis of man who loves it a lot.
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I'm definitely looking forwarded more Medanore than Ryoga
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Same.
All we know about him:
1. He will surpassed Volk if healthy. He is healthy now.
2. He has split personality. One good and One bad.
3. He is nicknamed "Genius Maverick"
4. Tokugawa Injured him in the past.
I think Medanore will have 2 personality. One left handed. And another is right handed.
And he can howling with his split personality.
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I gotta say, some of the best match in PoT is Ryoma (VS Sanada and Atobe for example), but Ryoma's match in NPoT kinda suck. I hope his match with Ryoga will be on the lv of those matches from the original series. So in that sense I am looking forward to S2.
But I'm also looking forward to Medanore for Tokugawa upgrade and Medanore's ability as well.
I'm certainly more interested in both of them than Mouri+Ochi that I like only half the pair and want the other half replace with Fuji.
But I'm also looking forward to Medanore for Tokugawa upgrade and Medanore's ability as well.
I'm certainly more interested in both of them than Mouri+Ochi that I like only half the pair and want the other half replace with Fuji.
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Mouri will not be replace what matter we do. Even if we would have prefer Irie or Fuji.
Also Mouri makes Ochi stronger. So, they have doubles bonus. And Ochi can only use Warp with Mouri. So it will be like Ohmgari supporting Kin..now Mouri will support Ochi.
Though, they might lose to Julio/Silva
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Finally we get to see proper double match!
I think Ochi/Mouri got this potential to named as Japan strongest pair!
Julio/Silva might be as strong as double pros!
Something like this can raise the bar as final doubles match and a hot warm up for the next match.
