Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump (2024) - News and Discussion!

[Broseph]

Guess the saying is true. If you cannot appeal to adult women you are finished. They are the demographic that are most likely to splurge on merch. Just look at UU lacklustre sales as it fails to be appealing.

Kagurabachi, hitman reborn, JJK, Slam Dunk and Haikyu has tons and tons of female fanbase.

That's an overgeneralization but they are a good base to have. Most important aspect is just having a big appeal in general regardless of what demographic it ends up being. Kids are probably the ideal demographic but it's also the hardest to gain their obsession the most since they're growing fast and their interests change quickly

 

[monstera11]

That's an overgeneralization but they are a good base to have. Most important aspect is just having a big appeal in general regardless of what demographic it ends up being. Kids are probably the ideal demographic but it's also the hardest to gain their obsession the most since they're growing fast and their interests change quickly

Well. No. Kids demographic has no disposable income.

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Females like to buy merchandises to decorate their itabags and shrine, buy soft toys, take photos of them, create fanmerch, buy fan merch, write fanfictions, draw dojinshis, buy lots and lots of manga volumes due to tokutens and popularity polls etc. Female fans keep the fandom economy going and keep interest high. Many times i know new series due to seeing many fanarts and fanworks online.

Of course, there are lots of male fans who partake too. But it is mainly the adult females who do this. Just go to any pop up shops, collab cafes, anime merch shop, jump shop, to see this.

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Related, this one person bought around 1761 JJK vol 26 for the popularity poll slip

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Also bought tons of the mags

 

[Stivie]

Well, @Shinuki no Reborn, apparently the comparisons between kagurabachi and ichinose family are over. Regardless of whether or not kagurabachi surpasses the sales of Akane banashe or Boruto. It is almost certain that the second volume will sell more than the first.

 

[Franz]

Or a full 2 cours and finish it off with a movie?

I hope not

 

[Broseph]

Well. No. Kids demographic has no disposable income.

By themselves, they don't but they get their parents to buy them all kinds of stuff like lunchboxes, toys, blankets, etc... They're the reason Pokemon and Hello Kitty are two of the biggest media franchises of all time. Kimetsu's boom in 2020 was driven significantly by them (8 billion dollars in 2020 alone which is an insane number). It's hard to get a lock onto them but if you can, it's the most lucrative demographic in the world. Kids are a billion dollar market which is why so much advertising is aimed at trying to get their attention

 

[galaxy-juice]

There isn't a reason GGG flopped. Failure is the default for an average or even above-average manga... not success.

It was an uphill battle to have a golf manga in the first place. It's many good points were not enough to resonate with its audience. That's really it.

 

[TheRealTravisty]

Yes, fujoshi are the key factor to a series’s success.

I’m so glad that Our Blood Oath and Shadow Eliminators had a long lasting run!

 

[pennycryman]

Yes, fujoshi are the key factor to a series’s success.

I’m so glad that Our Blood Oath and Shadow Eliminators had a long lasting run!

Those don't really count because there never really was a significant fujo following for them. They just tried really hard to get one. Where GGG tried to little to get a fujo following these 2 series tried too hard, and since the writing just wasn't there, people simply ignored them and why would fujos read flops?

 

[Ravellino]

Well. No. Kids demographic has no disposable income.

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Females like to buy merchandises to decorate their itabags and shrine, buy soft toys, take photos of them, create fanmerch, buy fan merch, write fanfictions, draw dojinshis, buy lots and lots of manga volumes due to tokutens and popularity polls etc. Female fans keep the fandom economy going and keep interest high. Many times i know new series due to seeing many fanarts and fanworks online.

Of course, there are lots of male fans who partake too. But it is mainly the adult females who do this. Just go to any pop up shops, collab cafes, anime merch shop, jump shop, to see this.

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Related, this one person bought around 1761 JJK vol 26 for the popularity poll slip

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Also bought tons of the mags

and most males adults in japan now expend money on vtubers

 

[TheRealTravisty]

Those don't really count because there never really was a significant fujo following for them. They just tried really hard to get one. Where GGG tried to little to get a fujo following these 2 series tried too hard, and since the writing just wasn't there, people simply ignored them and why would fujos read flops?

So what’s the message here then? Fujoshi definitely aren’t a “win button” for series unless they latch onto something that isn’t specifically targeting them?
I hope we’re not forgetting the last series that exploded before Kagurabachi—Ruri Dragon. That doesn’t strike me as something fujoshi are dying to pick up to pair men together.

I agree with Broseph, is what I’m trying to say here.

 

[OtterBrigade]

If there was some "success win" button the publishers/mangaka would have discovered it and exploited it until it didn't work anymore.

Fujoshi are just a demographic that supports things they like. They're more niche but loud and close knit so when they start latching onto something it spreads amount the people quickly.
Same is true for any group that will go out of its way to support something they like (or get others to support it for them like kids). Kagurabachi wasn't successful because it had the fujoshi audience. There's hundreds of manga with boys just as shippable that get no traction at all. Travisty pointed out two in Jump in recent memory which started at the same base level as KGB (ran in Jump) so unless you can explain why fujoshi decided they cared about it but not any of the other axed titles with pretty boys I don't think that's really an avenue to exploit. If they hop on it sure but you need to get them to hop on in the first place.

 

[SharkBait]

Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't all the popular sports manga really homoerotic? Subsequently, they garner massive female fanbases who ship the characters. GGG doesn't seem to have that aspect.

Chihayafuru, among others does well.

 

[Kurama58]

I expect Boruto taking 2nd place for the rest of the week, kgb was impressive but it's unlikely that it keep this momentum, it might even fall behind akane after the huge first day

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

I expect Boruto taking 2nd place for the rest of the week, kgb was impressive but it's unlikely that it keep this momentum, it might even fall behind akane after the huge first day

Boruto should take 2nd place tomorrow, but I don't imagine Kagurabachi behind Akane at least for the next two days. From day 4, I can see that

 

[defensor_de_boruto]

Kagurabachi selling 80k on this second volume is really likely, thats huge

 

[iker_03]

Honto Day 2
7. KaguraBachi #2
9. Akane-banashi
20. Undead Unluck #20
22. Nue's Exorcist #4
34. Cipher Academy #7

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

lol Ryohgo Narita went to buy Nue's Exorcist vol 4 with the Poniken card, ended up also buying a bunch of books before and got the last Nue copy with the card in the bookstore

 

[monstera11]

Honto Day 2
7. KaguraBachi #2
9. Akane-banashi
20. Undead Unluck #20
22. Nue's Exorcist #4
34. Cipher Academy #7

And Boruto is no 2?

 

[Friki]

And Boruto is no 2?

Boruto is 5

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14 M in 1 Day wtf is that ?

 

[defensor_de_boruto]

Boruto is 5

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14 M in 1 Day wtf is that ?

which mangas are top 5? Besides WT and Boruto?