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Farfalla

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Aight, here are the game infos (setup and actions):
IDAffiliationPrimary RoleSecondary RoleSanityPlayer
1TownDetectiveInsaneMadNat
2TownSpySaneBrandish
3TownDoctorSaneAsako
4TownBansheeGB
5TownNecromancerShad
6TownPsychiatristBaka Taichou
7TownProstituteEvil3ye
8TownBulletproofLambu
9TownMorticiandigital
10TownPsychiatristHolt
11TownProsecutorLady Pompom
12Third PartySanta ClausKat
13Town/MafiaPirateTraitorJames Rye
13Town/MafiaNobleTraitorCrescent
15MafiaMafia DetectiveSirSamuel
16MafiaStrongmanGrySun
17MafiaMafia EscortCopy Panda
18MafiaPirateMarmalade
GIFTS LIST

❄ Brewster's Gift "Drink it hot or give it up." (Hot Potato)
The Hot Potato explodes at the end of a day designated by the host before the start of the game, killing the player holding it. The holder of the Hot Potato doesn't know when it will explode, but he can pass it to another player at night, separately from any night ability he has. This passing can't be blocked. If the holder gets killed, the Potato explodes killing both the holder and the killer; if the holder is lynched, the Potato [dies with him].
❄ Kicks' Gift "You never know how things might turn out." (single-use Bar Keeper redirect)
One player ends up being the drunkest and uses his night action on a random player.
❄ CJ's Gift "A night cruise is a good way to catch night fish." (single-use Mafia Detective)
The Mafia Detective has the ability to investigate one player per Night and learn the player's Role. Only he is told the role of his target via PM. Whenever the Mafia Detective's investigation ability is performed, he cannot be chosen to go for a kill on the same night.
❄ Wisp's Gift "Tah-Dahh!" (this player's votes are worded as "Ho ho ho" during the next day)

❄ Jingle's Gift "Isn't this the best time of the year, kid?" Mandatory 5th Gift
(Santa Clause: this gift allows the game to go on. At the end of the game, Santa wins with the other winning party. Happy celebration ;)



Now first lemme thank @Erinyes for her massive participation in the game. At first, I got the November slot to host alone, and she asked me to join and I'm so happy she did! She's not only a very curious and interested person so we had a very nice and easy time discussing our ideas, but she also has the strength and endurance of a lion... I was often dead while we were hosting, but Erinchi followed everything and kept the game organized. She barely slept @.@ And that's a testimony I really needed to share with you all, 'cause her dedication and calm deserve lots of appreciation.

Also thanks @Hardy and @Vandred for double-checking the game mech (and in Poop's case, the comp as well) and giving us your honest thoughts, so we could try to present a game that would be fair and entertaining to people.

And finally, even tho some other points were addressed already, I'd like to thank all the players, from the heart. I know this game was too soon because of my availability due to local holidays, and I know you guys were tired - which for sure didn't improve during this time lol. So I really need to commend you all, because you guys were either putting in a lot of time and effort inside the game, analyzing and discussing nonstop, or in the deadpad - you guys also got no rest. As hosts, that's the biggest kind of feedback we could get: to have you guys really onboard. Some moves were questionable, but no one can't say any of those teams weren't trying... it's only natural that drained people will make some mistakes, so to me that's another sign of the praise you guys deserve.

Quick comments about the game that I've mentioned in the deadpad already: in general, the idea with the mech was to add a simple new function (and we tried to map beforehand the main game new considerations we'd need to have it in place) but that could allow a new set of strategical moves to be exploited - now I would reconsider the priority we used since we realize it would have been more adherent to people's preference. The game also had 2 Traitors 'cause Pirate is a VERY weak mafia that can suicide and lose the ability to kill later on, so we wanted to give them better odds (lemme say it one more time in here that the notion that means town had 2 extra people to lynch is wrong, first because town had 2 killing tools in the Prosecutor and the Banshee, and second because they don't need to eliminate unrecruited traitors to win). It had 2 Psys 'cause even tho we wanted mafia to have better chances to recruit, that didn't mean we wanted them to recruit BOTH, so town had more chances to find at least one on the other hand (even if one role would get erased eventually), and at the same time the role could cause some confusion that mafia could exploit. The Mortician came in place to trace stuff like Santa and fake claims/transfers regarding any role/action that got "buried" - imo it's more effective than the SM because it can target antitown and spot unknown stuff that could still be in-game; it was a late game resource that had good chances of being effective with the role transfer mech. The Necromancer was also in there for its recycling capabilities since we'd have roles being lost, and in this setup it would be less OP than it usually is, since his options would still be reduced. The Santa was there for extra fun, imo, since the role could still be used even if the OG player and their wincon was gone: two gifts - that we expected to be the last ones - were clear signs that there was a Santa in-game in case it would fly by too successfully - and even that was just to cause some ruckus since the last gift allowed the game to go on after Santa would win - which to me it's a needed measure so we won't have sudden major frustration with an unexpected game end (I do understand why the game usually has to end when Santa is in it, so people don't ignore the role, but in this case we saw an opportunity to play around that and fix the issue regarding that); Santa's other gifts were there to provide some extra spice but unfortunately, as you can see in the night actions, I made a mistake while processing GB's action with the Hot Potato. GB got blocked by Evil when he tried to pass it to James and I overlooked it that the passing can't be blocked. It would have been simple to fix it during the day by PMing the both of them if Bran didn't spy on GB and, coincidentally, Sam hadn't claimed the exact same action and outcome. After discussing with some people, we reached the conclusion that the attitude that would cause the least interference and damage to a bigger number of players would be to just remove the Hot Potato from the game and inform that to GB, which is what we did.

GG mafia, you fought the long battle and won! GG town, it's never easy to be on the more clueless side, trying to put pieces together. GG Santa cause Santa is always fun~
 

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its amazing how crescent is lurking in the shadows this whle time getting a free adhd pass smfh head
 

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I have a role.
So are you saying you are NOT a vanilla townie? Because then that is an actual hint. If you say you got a role as in a role as in even counting Vanilla Townie, then I kinda hope we got a vigilante or cowboy to shot you. xD
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its amazing how crescent is lurking in the shadows this whle time getting a free adhd pass smfh head
Also Sam and Kat being at 1 post with Marm and Brand at 2 posts. Hopefully they gonna be more active in the other 2/3s of the day phase.
 

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James, the game just started. I was at work all day :emocat
 

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Mhm so I'm feeling a bit divided on the hinting debacle. I see the perks of not hinting (or actual hinting, as you guys call it) - I mean it definitely can help protect stronger roles from getting erased by mafia, which would be preferable.
Perhaps if more people would hint, or everyone, perhaps the true stronger roles would stand out less (unless they're being obvious about it). Because like this, with only a few people having said anything about their role so far, it kinda puts the spotlight on them doesn't it?
 

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Mhm so I'm feeling a bit divided on the hinting debacle. I see the perks of not hinting (or actual hinting, as you guys call it) - I mean it definitely can help protect stronger roles from getting erased by mafia, which would be preferable.
Perhaps if more people would hint, or everyone, perhaps the true stronger roles would stand out less (unless they're being obvious about it). Because like this, with only a few people having said anything about their role so far, it kinda puts the spotlight on them doesn't it?
My understanding is play as usual, active/passive is usually what matters D1, you can hint as you see fit after that.

Do you see something that would make this a bad idea?
 

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Hinting is a scary part, plus even hinting in a good way leads to misinterpretation or maybe that mafia knows everything and kills you during night... but not saying anything can also be a way of getting out of the spotlight and being suspicious, just remembering last game, when i easy 'judged' quiet player
 

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Why is Lambu always the one who gets targetted Day 1 for targets???

GrySun is a bit weird but Shad you’re very antagonistic toward him.

votekill GB for kisses 😘
 

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What your reason again? The lover talk?
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Clearly mafia prefer lynching passive claimers right Gry?
You literally asked me in first interaction my thoughts on James, now you never heard it.

You argue in bad faith.
 

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Hey y'all, I'm the handsome Eugene from the Man Hell, if you know what I mean. Yeah buddy, I know you know what I mean. ;)

Still catching up on page 2 so far, but can already say I'm Team James. Yeah buddy, you go there!

VOTEKILL GRY

Along with Lambu they reminded me too much of myself and Shad last game, when we were not set on how to handle the mechanic and wanted cautiously feel the waters in the day discussions. And no way those two Third Party scums win an other game without being pressured to claim at some point.

James' approach here seems more than correct.

As said didn't fully catch up but the Lambs Gry-save vote on James looks also suss as well, buddy. But seems like he has been marked by Pompom already? Is that Prosecutor thingy? Well, nice, then this problem will be resolved by day end. But seems like an exciting day start.

Let's gooo Town!

As for myself, I am a passive, chances I will pass my role to someone are kinda low, yeah, if you know what I mean, buddy. ha-ha.
 

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@Farfalla @Erinyes
When a player is lynched, does his role get revealed in the death post or it is kept hidden since they have to transfer it?

Sorry for the question just want to be sure.

GrySun is a bit weird but Shad you’re very antagonistic toward him.
Compensating for the skill difference, his use of shad is vengeful didn't help his case tho.


You literally asked me in first interaction my thoughts on James, now you never heard it.

You argue in bad faith.
Don't be dramatic, it costs you nothing to answer, just helping you make your vote reasons clear, I didn't argue yet, I have follow up questions for when you express yourself
 

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Btw still missing some ppl for example Holt, EvilEye and Baka, hope they are fine? don't know what timezones they have.
 

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@Farfalla @Erinyes
When a player is lynched, does his role get revealed in the death post or it is kept hidden since they have to transfer it?

Sorry for the question just want to be sure.
Nothing changes regarding how a lynch goes, and the transfer step will follow after if the role is passable
 

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"We are back with quick news. Things seem to have stirred up between a couple of citizens. There has been multiple accusations between the villahers regarding the shady occurances happening in our town. Though, we are still investigating and have yet to confirm or deny any of the vocal accusations, we will definitely keep you updated when things become a bit clearer.

The town has been eagerly discussing the Role passing fiesta that is to happen in the village sooner rather than later. In addition to that, I would like to ask everyone to be careful with their actions and keep our town's safety and well-being at their best interest.

Other than the mysterious events, it seems like several individuals are considering a threesome which has become the talk among the elderly.

It has also come to our notice that a CERTAIN villager is still not wearing the avatar, so please Panda change it asap.

With that being said, our inbox is being flooded with questions and allegations, so forgive me for the slow reaction. I will disappoint you again though as I am off-duty until the morning. I will carefully go through the content and will definitely solve the riddle in the end!~

Signing off,

Olivia 🫒"
 

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As for myself, I am a passive, chances I will pass my role to someone are kinda low, yeah, if you know what I mean, buddy. ha-ha.
that might be true, but your avi looks sooo specific mafiosi with the sunglasses and the jacket ^^ :teehee :3c
 

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s said didn't fully catch up but the Lambs Gry-save vote on James looks also suss as well, buddy.
Oopsies, already small correction here, digital's insta vote after Gry's. I misread, so forget the analysis there.

Catching up, give me some time pl0x, buddies.
 
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