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Farfalla

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Aight, here are the game infos (setup and actions):
IDAffiliationPrimary RoleSecondary RoleSanityPlayer
1TownDetectiveInsaneMadNat
2TownSpySaneBrandish
3TownDoctorSaneAsako
4TownBansheeGB
5TownNecromancerShad
6TownPsychiatristBaka Taichou
7TownProstituteEvil3ye
8TownBulletproofLambu
9TownMorticiandigital
10TownPsychiatristHolt
11TownProsecutorLady Pompom
12Third PartySanta ClausKat
13Town/MafiaPirateTraitorJames Rye
13Town/MafiaNobleTraitorCrescent
15MafiaMafia DetectiveSirSamuel
16MafiaStrongmanGrySun
17MafiaMafia EscortCopy Panda
18MafiaPirateMarmalade
GIFTS LIST

❄ Brewster's Gift "Drink it hot or give it up." (Hot Potato)
The Hot Potato explodes at the end of a day designated by the host before the start of the game, killing the player holding it. The holder of the Hot Potato doesn't know when it will explode, but he can pass it to another player at night, separately from any night ability he has. This passing can't be blocked. If the holder gets killed, the Potato explodes killing both the holder and the killer; if the holder is lynched, the Potato [dies with him].
❄ Kicks' Gift "You never know how things might turn out." (single-use Bar Keeper redirect)
One player ends up being the drunkest and uses his night action on a random player.
❄ CJ's Gift "A night cruise is a good way to catch night fish." (single-use Mafia Detective)
The Mafia Detective has the ability to investigate one player per Night and learn the player's Role. Only he is told the role of his target via PM. Whenever the Mafia Detective's investigation ability is performed, he cannot be chosen to go for a kill on the same night.
❄ Wisp's Gift "Tah-Dahh!" (this player's votes are worded as "Ho ho ho" during the next day)

❄ Jingle's Gift "Isn't this the best time of the year, kid?" Mandatory 5th Gift
(Santa Clause: this gift allows the game to go on. At the end of the game, Santa wins with the other winning party. Happy celebration ;)



Now first lemme thank @Erinyes for her massive participation in the game. At first, I got the November slot to host alone, and she asked me to join and I'm so happy she did! She's not only a very curious and interested person so we had a very nice and easy time discussing our ideas, but she also has the strength and endurance of a lion... I was often dead while we were hosting, but Erinchi followed everything and kept the game organized. She barely slept @.@ And that's a testimony I really needed to share with you all, 'cause her dedication and calm deserve lots of appreciation.

Also thanks @Hardy and @Vandred for double-checking the game mech (and in Poop's case, the comp as well) and giving us your honest thoughts, so we could try to present a game that would be fair and entertaining to people.

And finally, even tho some other points were addressed already, I'd like to thank all the players, from the heart. I know this game was too soon because of my availability due to local holidays, and I know you guys were tired - which for sure didn't improve during this time lol. So I really need to commend you all, because you guys were either putting in a lot of time and effort inside the game, analyzing and discussing nonstop, or in the deadpad - you guys also got no rest. As hosts, that's the biggest kind of feedback we could get: to have you guys really onboard. Some moves were questionable, but no one can't say any of those teams weren't trying... it's only natural that drained people will make some mistakes, so to me that's another sign of the praise you guys deserve.

Quick comments about the game that I've mentioned in the deadpad already: in general, the idea with the mech was to add a simple new function (and we tried to map beforehand the main game new considerations we'd need to have it in place) but that could allow a new set of strategical moves to be exploited - now I would reconsider the priority we used since we realize it would have been more adherent to people's preference. The game also had 2 Traitors 'cause Pirate is a VERY weak mafia that can suicide and lose the ability to kill later on, so we wanted to give them better odds (lemme say it one more time in here that the notion that means town had 2 extra people to lynch is wrong, first because town had 2 killing tools in the Prosecutor and the Banshee, and second because they don't need to eliminate unrecruited traitors to win). It had 2 Psys 'cause even tho we wanted mafia to have better chances to recruit, that didn't mean we wanted them to recruit BOTH, so town had more chances to find at least one on the other hand (even if one role would get erased eventually), and at the same time the role could cause some confusion that mafia could exploit. The Mortician came in place to trace stuff like Santa and fake claims/transfers regarding any role/action that got "buried" - imo it's more effective than the SM because it can target antitown and spot unknown stuff that could still be in-game; it was a late game resource that had good chances of being effective with the role transfer mech. The Necromancer was also in there for its recycling capabilities since we'd have roles being lost, and in this setup it would be less OP than it usually is, since his options would still be reduced. The Santa was there for extra fun, imo, since the role could still be used even if the OG player and their wincon was gone: two gifts - that we expected to be the last ones - were clear signs that there was a Santa in-game in case it would fly by too successfully - and even that was just to cause some ruckus since the last gift allowed the game to go on after Santa would win - which to me it's a needed measure so we won't have sudden major frustration with an unexpected game end (I do understand why the game usually has to end when Santa is in it, so people don't ignore the role, but in this case we saw an opportunity to play around that and fix the issue regarding that); Santa's other gifts were there to provide some extra spice but unfortunately, as you can see in the night actions, I made a mistake while processing GB's action with the Hot Potato. GB got blocked by Evil when he tried to pass it to James and I overlooked it that the passing can't be blocked. It would have been simple to fix it during the day by PMing the both of them if Bran didn't spy on GB and, coincidentally, Sam hadn't claimed the exact same action and outcome. After discussing with some people, we reached the conclusion that the attitude that would cause the least interference and damage to a bigger number of players would be to just remove the Hot Potato from the game and inform that to GB, which is what we did.

GG mafia, you fought the long battle and won! GG town, it's never easy to be on the more clueless side, trying to put pieces together. GG Santa cause Santa is always fun~
 

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15 minutes left.

The thread moves just as fast as I'm reading it.
I realized I don't actually care, if you wanted me to change my vote you should have played when they was still time to read and think.
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@Farfalla @Erinyes Gry Mafia Escort
 

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Whats the better lynch over him though?

i wanted to vote lawl because thats how I am, but even he feels not quite scummy to me😭
Vote who you want to vote. Why should it matter?
 

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i have no recollection of that game but if hes really ic and self confirming thats not very strange
Yeah buddy, but he knows he is not even trusted being that high up on votes, plus there are chances that a dead Mafia overrides his role and dooms us. It's pretty bad plan.

If he is mafia baiting Detectives then Boss as a role makes total sense.
 

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Although i bet sth is odd with Gry, i stick to my Panda vote... i am scared now Gry might be (mafia) bomb, always forget about this role and that you can get killed by voting :doge
 

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Let the Gry burn, quemenlo bien! \:lambirb

That said if he really is Innocent Child after all those weird flags he deserves a big hug from Pom in the afterlife
 

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@Copy Panda that vote is not helpful
yeah i might change it but outside of you, pom, kat, sam, hyung and to a lesser extent bran and evil (who i all read as town) i dont have many sus reads.

i'd consider jinx but i always misread her as mafia when shes just a townie playing it safe. marms is a bit strange for not locking on hyung or gry but nothing weird overall. dd idk ever. holt is afkish.

couple of gray players like asachi who has been a ghost it feels like but in the end, i just voted for someone i didnt really care for if they went in the end. id have to read for sth more of substance. it's a throwaway vote essentially
 

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but it was mason group... :emocat
i know.:hug

Hey even in that game the mafia couldn’t trust themselves because lover. Sometimes I feel mafia game has applications in real life.
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Votelock on Shad. My guess he's Santa. And little innocent child GrySun can go sit on his lap and get a photo.
:rofl
 

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Yeah buddy, but he knows he is not even trusted being that high up on votes, plus there are chances that a dead Mafia overrides his role and dooms us. It's pretty bad plan.

If he is mafia baiting Detectives then Boss as a role makes total sense.
yeah i mean no det ever should (hopefully would) target someone's claim over someone's confirmed status, but i have to mafia overriding his role is actually really clever. it's like reverse pirate
 

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Just realized I didn't even vote yet, votekill Jinx for ignoring my question. Mafia Noble is my guess
 

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Just realized I didn't even vote yet, votekill Jinx for ignoring my question. Mafia Noble is my guess
 

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Votelock on Shad. My guess he's Santa. And little innocent child GrySun can go sit on his lap and get a photo.
You are wierd this day phase.
I also don't trust Asako, I agree that she sounds fake.

Vote Boss or escort on Gry
 

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Aaaah okay you know what, lets just vote.

votekill Lawl - as thats what I have been wanting to do, I like voting Lawl.
Not joining in on voting for Gry, but honestly if he goes at least the debate surrounding him will be gone and we wouldn’t be left wondering if he’s lying or not.
 

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In case I die tonight, which is very likely, keep your eyes on Koko, Marmie and Kat, I feel like those three are going to fly under the radar if not called out.

Btw dont bother passing me roles or saving me doc-chans, Im going to die sooner of later and having the idea of being possibly protected should be enough to keep them at bay for one night.
 

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You are wierd this day phase.
I also don't trust Asako, I agree that she sounds fake.

Vote Boss or escort on Gry
boss already has more guesses on Gry, and it's the one that makes most sense with how he's been playing, fingers crossed that we're right XD
 

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guys are you seriously lynching a role that can confirm itself if we wait a bit :notsure


why
I don't get you guys
 
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