Re: あの術をやるな。。
zindryr said:
Eh, there's a technique to everything, whether it be how you cast your spells using arcane arts, or how you use your supernatural powers. There's a technique to it. That's how I take jutsu in those connotations.
Yes, but the difference between "technique" and, for instance, "magical spell" or "jutsu" (as in 術をかける), is that "technique" is used to refer more so to the specific technical method or implementation, where as "spell" or "jutsu", or the other such words with supernatural connotation, would can be used to refer not just to the technique itself, but also the results of the technique. The "magical/supernatural manifestation", if you will.
Besides, they are technically 'techniques' in Naruto considering there actually is a "scientific" explanation for how the jutsu are performed. They use/mold chakra in different manners to various different outcomes. How you mold the chakra is just another technique.
I tried to allude to in my post that the contextual usage of "jutsu" within Naruto is, in the end, the most important component to the interpretation of the term. And yes, there is a more "scientific" explanation of "jutsu" in the world of Naruto. But still, I think the still very much so active, potentially "supernatural" usage of "jutsu" in Japanese is something that needs to be considered in the interpretation of the word... That's part of the "context" too, in the end.
Also, while this admittedly wasn't all that clear, please understand, my little rant wasn't so much directed at you specifically, but instead at other people who I have seen declare that "jutsu" is perfectly synonymous with "technique", period, and then continue to develop their arguments based only around their understanding of the English word "technique"... Just a little pet-peeve of mine, I suppose.
Anywho... Back on the main subject, while I personally think Jiraiya's "that jutsu" referred to something other than Naruto's Kyuubi-form, if I were to play devil's advocate and argue otherwise, I would probably make the case that "that jutsu" was being used in more of a euphemistic fashion. While one, in the context of Naruto, probably wouldn't typically refer to the Kyuubi-form as a "jutsu", in the context of where Jiraiya said what he said, something like "don't turn into the Kyuubi" etc, etc, also wouldn't have been all that intelligent a thing to say, what with all the "on-hearers" and what not...
And as for the Kyuubi-form not being voluntary, I would point out that, based on more recent chapters, it's probably reasonable to say that going Kyuubi is a passively-conscious decision on Naruto's part. He doesn't say, "OK! I'm going Kyuubi now!" and "tah-dah", but he does have the ability to resist it, and that does, on some level, make the Kyuubi form a semi-conscious, semi-voluntary "jutsu" of sorts.
