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Canon G5 luffy vs kata

Luffy wins

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  • Kata wins because no snakeman

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G5 luffy only. Baringun and g4 are restricted.

Kata can do whatever he likes.


Battle in the mirrior world what diff does luffy win.
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G5 luffy only. Baringun and g4 are restricted.

Kata can do whatever he likes.


Battle in the mirrior world what diff does luffy win.
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Gear 5 without Bajrang Gun extreme diffs Katakuri Gear 5 cannot hit Katakuri when it got tagged million times by kaido who is much slower than Snakeman.

Gear 5 with Bajrang Gun 1 shots Katakuri.

Snakeman with advCoC 1 shots Katakuri.

Base/Gear 2/Boundman Luffy with or without advCOC gets ragdolled by Katakuri.
 

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@BlackTiger g5 js the fruits awakening it is a direct upgrade in everything g4 has to offer, speed power and durability. It also on top of that has partial reality warping power and gives luffy the freedom to fight however he pleases. As such he is clearly free enough to use speed at the very least comparable to g4
 

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@BlackTiger g5 js the fruits awakening it is a direct upgrade in everything g4 has to offer, speed power and durability. It also on top of that has partial reality warping power and gives luffy the freedom to fight however he pleases. As such he is clearly free enough to use speed at the very least comparable to g4
That's also why Gear 5 got tagged a lot by Kaido who cannot speed blitz a snail Like Big Mom? Gear 5 won't hit Katakuri unless Gear 5 uses Bajrang Gun an aoe attack which is impossible to escape from.
 

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That's also why Gear 5 got tagged a lot by Kaido who cannot speed blitz a snail Like Big Mom? Gear 5 won't hit Katakuri unless Gear 5 uses Bajrang Gun an aoe attack which is impossible to escape from.
Kaido tagged snake man, and he has incredible speed and strength feats. His muscle form did more damage to kaido than any g4 form did. He’s run across the sky in the form and against lucci he moved to fast in a sling shot he required glasses to shield his eyes from the sheer air speed.
 

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Kaido tagged snake man, and he has incredible speed and strength feats. His muscle form did more damage to kaido than any g4 form did. He’s run across the sky in the form and against kata he moved to fast in a sling shot he required glasses to shield his eyes from the sheer air speed.
Kaido used FS and had to copy Snakeman movement pattern to tag SNakeman. Kaido did not use FS and copy Snakeman movement pattern to tag Gear 5.

Gear 5 cannot be too fast to Katakuri when it is not that fast to Kaido who is much slower than Snakeman and cannot blitz a snail like Big Mom.
 

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Bm scales about Kata in speed aswell.
 

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Bm scales about Kata in speed aswell.
Big Mom got blitzed by Brook. Cannot land any hits on Luffy in Udon. Cannot land a hit on Jinbe with Prometheus.

Gear 3 Luffy that Doflamingo called slow intercepted her attack which was aimed at Reiju.

Katakuri is also faster than Akainu via Jinbe.

Like Jinbe can turn around his body then hit Akainu then turned back his body to shield Luffy from Akainu's magma fist.

Jinbe was too slow to Katakuri. After Katakuri dodged his punch, Jinbe did not move a bit even when Katakuri was about to pin down Luffy.

Unless you think Big Mom is faster than Akainu, Katakuri scales to Big Mom to speed is impossible.
 
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@BlackTiger Akainu is probably yonko tier he scales to BM in speed. BM doesn’t get speed blitzed by TB otherwise kaido would stomp her. Like it kaido’s TB Is so much Faster then BM he stomps. It just she can block it
 

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@BlackTiger Akainu is probably yonko tier he scales to BM in speed. BM doesn’t get speed blitzed by TB otherwise kaido would stomp her. Like it kaido’s TB Is so much Faster then BM he stomps. It just she can block it
There is no yonko or admiral tier. They are relative. Akainu is still much slower than Katakuri. You don't have to be a yonko to be much faster than Big Mom. That's a headcannon you made up.

Katakuri is also faster than Akainu via Jinbe.

Like Jinbe can turn around his body then hit Akainu then turned back his body to shield Luffy from Akainu's magma fist.

Jinbe was too slow to Katakuri. After Katakuri dodged his punch, Jinbe did not move a bit even when Katakuri was about to pin down Luffy.

Kaido never used Thunder Bagua against Big Mom so bad comparison. Big Mom is much slower than Katakuri.

Big Mom kept up with Kaido speed who did not use Thunder Bagua. Most likely she blocked Thunder Bagua or tanked it or Kaido did not use Thunder Bagua against Big Mom.

No matter what kind of excuses you're trying to make, Katakuri has speed feats above Akainu while Big Mom does not have speed feats above Gear 2 Luffy.

Big Mom got blitzed by Brook. Cannot land any hits on Luffy in Udon. Cannot land a hit on Jinbe with Prometheus.

Gear 3 Luffy that Doflamingo called slow intercepted her attack which was aimed at Reiju.

Big Mom scales to Katakuri in speed is headcannon it contradicts the manga.

Her keeping up with Kaido speed who did not use Thunder Bagua speaks more about Kaido speed. It means Kaido without Thunder Bagua is never that fast.
 
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I’m gonna troll and say Kata wins because no Snakeman 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
 

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@BlackTiger what property of TB makes kaido fast, it’s just his natural stats which BM scales too.
 

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@BlackTiger what property of TB makes kaido fast, it’s just his natural stats which BM scales too.
No it doesn't when Kaido never used Thunder Bagua on Big Mom and on panels,

Big Mom got blitzed by Brook. Cannot land any hits on Luffy in Udon. Cannot land a hit on Jinbe with Prometheus.

Gear 3 Luffy that Doflamingo called slow intercepted her attack which was aimed at Reiju.
 

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@BlackTiger is it possible BM just didn’t move because she didn’t care. She knew brook would do 0 damage to her she was in 0 danger and she doesn’t care. Like Brook is likely yonko office level or low yc3 at best. Currently, wci brook wasn’t worth the effort to move from.
 

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@BlackTiger is it possible BM just didn’t move because she didn’t care. She knew brook would do 0 damage to her she was in 0 danger and she doesn’t care. Like Brook is likely yonko office level or low yc3 at best. Currently, wci brook wasn’t worth the effort to move from.
Baseless she was trying to kill Luffy in Udon for eating oshiruko and landed 0 hits. She was trying to kill Jinbe after Jinbe told her he wanted to quit but Jinbe dodged her prometheus attack.

Big Mom was trying to kill Reiju but Gear 3 that Doflamingo called slow intercepted her attack.

Big Mom was trying to kill SH for ruining her Wedding Cake but Brook blitzed her cutting Zeus in 2.


Big Mom is much slower than Katakuri.

Current Brook is weaker than Daifuku who dominated Sanji (someone stronger than Brook) throughout WCI.
 
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@BlackTiger if it’s one on one always bet on luffy.
 

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@BlackTiger if it’s one on one always bet on luffy.
Base Luffy with or without advCoC remains as Katakuri's punching bag due to speed difference WCI should tell you that. AdvCoC doesn't make Luffy faster.

No matter what kind of excuses you're trying to make you cannot make a scenario where advCoC base Luffy can hit Katakuri.
 

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@BlackTiger he speed blitzes hits him with an ACoC attack, if it doesn’t one shot. Which I’ll be nice and say it doesn’t. He does it again twice and kata losses. Kata is low-mid diff’d by base luffy. Low diff’d by g4/g5.
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Kata is probably compariable to awakened lucci. And g5 low diff’d awaken lucci. Awaken lucci is probably sub admiral tier. For some reason should he be idk. But he’s not a push over anymore.
 

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@BlackTiger he speed blitzes hits him with an ACoC attack, if it doesn’t one shot. Which I’ll be nice and say it doesn’t. He does it again twice and kata losses. Kata is low-mid diff’d by base luffy. Low diff’d by g4/g5.
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Kata is probably compariable to awakened lucci. And g5 low diff’d awaken lucci. Awaken lucci is probably sub admiral tier. For some reason should he be idk. But he’s not a push over anymore.
You are not nice you are just full of lies none of what you said is backed by the manga. You are no different than a liar. Base Luffy can blitz Katakuri is as baseless as current Usopp can blitz Dressrosa Luffy.

WCI base Luffy cannot hit Katakuri despite having FS no matter how many times he tried. Why would it change now? If current base Luffy with advCoC fails to hit Katakuri, he will fail to hit Katakuri again. He will fail again the third time. He will fail again the fourth time.

You mean base Luffy will speed blitz Katakuri like this?

Do we read the same manga?

If you are nice you won't make a baseless claim like base Luffy can blitz Katakuri. You'll provide something from the manga. Not baseless claim out of this air to support your agenda. You are no different than a biased fanboy.

You don't have any proof that base Luffy is much faster than WCI Snakeman Luffy. For base luffy to do that, base Luffy needs to be faster his WCI Snakeman version something you cannot prove.

Boundman Luffy without CoO got blitzed by Thunder Bagua act 1.

Boundman Luffy without CoO got blitzed again by Thunder Bagua chapter 1042.

Whenever Boundman cannot use CoO, Boundman got blitzed by Thunder Bagua.

You cannot prove that Luffy got faster. Base Luffy did not get faster therefore he is still Katakuri punching bag, will get blitzed again whether he uses advCoC or not and will get ragdolled again.

Katakuri cannot be comparable to awakened Lucci when awakened Lucci cannot hit Gear 5 who got tagged several times by Kaido who cannot blitz a snail like Big Mom who is much slower than Katakuri.

Without bajrang Gun, Gear 5 needs a lucky shot to beat Katakuri because Gear 5 got tagged by Kaido who cannot blitz a snail like Big Mom.

Awakened Lucci is much slower than Kaido who is much slower than Katakuri so he cannot be comparable to Katakuri. Katakuri blitzes awakened Lucci.

Katakuri will blitz Gear 5 just like this

Awakened Lucci needs to prove he is faster than hybrid Kaido first. Then we can discuss if he is as fast as Katakuri.
 
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I’m not Being mean it’s just, kata is over rated. He is not a top tier fighter. He’s a high tier fighter. He is probably top 30-40 in the verse. Like by no means weak. He just can’t beat top tiers. Luffy is a yonko there is maybe 5 people who currently beat him. And probably less than that.
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Wci luffy is missing about 5 haki blooms, 2 advanced forms of haki and a devil fruit awakening. Let’s be clear luffy is night and day in strength. Post wci luffy doesn’t hold a candle to post wano luffy. Luffy is probably 30 times stronger post wano compared to post wci


Sengoku
Akainu
Garp
Oldbeard
The 5 admirals
Yamato
Zoro
Sabo
King
Marco
Ben Beckmann
Bm
Kaido
Mihawk
Crocodile?????? Idk he’s somehow 1.9 bil
Rayleigh
BB
Shanks

This is the list of people who arguably best kata, he might win extreme diff vs maybe some of these. But for the most part he’s losing .

List of people who can currently beat luffy

Akainu
Shanks
BB?
 
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