Chapter Hunter x Hunter Chapter 400 Spoilers & Discussion

[Uriel]

Halkenburg's arrow, if I remember, was unblockable, right? But unavoidable?

Not sure if you can catch it, deflect it, or cancel it. So far, everything indicates the latter.

I don't find Camilla's ability that good. The way she behaves it's easy for experienced people to guess that killing her is a bad move too. Plus, the one she killed, Mousse, isn't really a strong fighter. We need to see how the cat would deal with stronger opponents.

As for Tsubeppa I think she'll live for a good while, she is rational enough and wants to cooperate with Kurapika. She is also planning to work with Tserriednich to an extent. Most of her bodyguards haven't appeared too. I remember seeing their faces in the Jump Ryu video.

Kind of. She has the most obnoxious personality to go with that ability. And depending on how good She's with Nen she could switch between Ten and Zetsu quickly, provoking experienced users.

 

[Tavore]

Halkenburg's arrow, if I remember, was unblockable, right? But unavoidable?

It should be useless against his siblings since it comes from the Nen Beast.

 

[Demonspeed]

It should be useless against his siblings since it comes from the Nen Beast.

I don't think it works like that. The Nen Beast can't attack Halk's siblings by itself but he can.

 

[Uriel]

Now I'm confused. Is the arrow part of the Beast's ability? As far as I recall, the beast themselves cannot target princes but nothing forbids prior nen abilities to do so. Right?

Possesion Arrow seems to be Halkenburg own Nen. As far as we know, the beast's ability is to grant crests that will half-awaken the target to Nen.

 

[Ebrietas-]

Now I'm confused. Is the arrow part of the Beast's ability? As far as I recall, the beast themselves cannot target princes but nothing forbids prior nen abilities to do so. Right?

Possesion Arrow seems to be Halkenburg own Nen. As far as we know, the beast's ability is to grant crests that will half-awaken the target to Nen.

Halkenburg and his followers marked by the beast get their nen potential enhanced in accordance with their collective determination. When halk finally decided to join and win the succession battle his beast raised his potential to a point where he immediately created the arrow ability

 

[Uriel]

Halkenburg and his followers marked by the beast get their nen potential enhanced in accordance with their collective determination. When halk finally decided to join and win the succession battle his beast raised his potential to a point where he immediately created the arrow ability

So, the beast awoke his own Nen. My question remains: Is the arrow Halkenburg hatsu, awoken by his beast, or it's an ability of his beast?

 

[Copy Panda]

just wait till tsubeppa releases her full potential

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i will say the thing i like the least about halkenberg and terrorsandwich is that they put in virtually no thought whatsoever into their power

everyone else has to go through the process of thinking, choosing and finetuning, meanwhile these guys have premade multistage techniques that immediately rank super high tier

 

[Ebrietas-]

So, the beast awoke his own Nen. My question remains: Is the arrow Halkenburg hatsu, awoken by his beast, or it's an ability of his beast?

I just explained it. The arrow is Halkenburgs own ability. But he was only able to create this ability due to his beasts ability to raise the princes nen potential the more his followers believe in him

 

[Toby_Temple]

just wait till tsubeppa releases her full potential

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i will say the thing i like the least about halkenberg and terrorsandwich is that they put in virtually no thought whatsoever into their power

everyone else has to go through the process of thinking, choosing and finetuning, meanwhile these guys have premade multistage techniques that immediately rank super high tier

terrorsandwich!!

But I think Halkernberg got the better end of the stick vs Tserriednich. Tserriednich had to be personally trained to get that new nen beast of his. Halkenberg just needed his "resolve" set to the right direction.

 

[Uriel]

terrorsandwich!!

But I think Halkernberg got the better end of the stick vs Tserriednich. Tserriednich had to be personally trained to get that new nen beast of his. Halkenberg just needed his "resolve" set to the right direction.

With a Nen beast help, but yes.

I just explained it. The arrow is Halkenburgs own ability. But he was only able to create this ability due to his beasts ability to raise the princes nen potential the more his followers believe in him

Ok, ok, chill. T_T
But I don't think it's clear tho.

I guess we can assume the Beast's ability is to awaken and share aura. Fits him. I wonder if Tserrendeich ceremonial beasts take from people. In the end, it seems to be a metaphor for leadership.

just wait till tsubeppa releases her full potential

So she can be killed to have Kurapika in an even more dangerous position.

 

[Demonspeed]

Halkenburg's NB allowed him to awaken his own ability. Which works in conjunction with the NB's ability itself(the NB is a Enhancer with a Symbiotic type ability). That's how I understood it.

Halkenburg himself seems to be a Manipulator or Emitter. It was said that his NB uses Manipulation because of its host.

I think one element which shows that it's definitely his ability is that he fires Nen arrows. When Kurapika talked about him earlier, he mentioned that he was a skilled archer. The ability is fitting for a Manipulator (long range, transfers of consciousness, control of the target etc).

 

[Tavore]

Wonder if Halkenburg could get to a point where his arrow would overcome Meruem?

 

[Copy Panda]

terrorsandwich!!

But I think Halkernberg got the better end of the stick vs Tserriednich. Tserriednich had to be personally trained to get that new nen beast of his. Halkenberg just needed his "resolve" set to the right direction.

hmm ig that part i like because they're both genius tier but have very different approaches to life in general

halko had to resolve himself (was prepared to kill himself) which is quite the feat whereas terrorsandwich had to 'apply' himself (which too is a kind of resolve -> see also the talks his bodyguards had about that episode he loaded a gun and shot a kid in the leg)

so tbh i do like the execution and also where they landed with the powers, i just don't super like the fact that they got powers at all. but that's a luxury problem, especially by shounen standards. it makes sense that some parties must develop a serious power to contend/make up for the power of the Hunters

 

[Tavore]

Which other Princes will learn Nen? My guesses are Fugetsu and Zhang Li.

 

[Copy Panda]

im hoping not too many more as that would oversaturate the setting

esp zhangli was like "ill win with my wits alone" he cant learn it now

 

[Uriel]

Which other Princes will learn Nen? My guesses are Fugetsu and Zhang Li.

Well, she has been exposed to TWO powerful post-mortem Nen (The ritual and her NB sister) so I'm thinking that her ability could be actually very important for the world of Hunter x Hunter, in the long-term at least.

And I think Kacho is a big part of it too. Since it's a Nen Beast, it can do a lot of funny things. And the wormhole works in conjunction with her so right now, and in theory, Fugetsu is able to travel wherever she pleases as long as Kacho can travel to that place.

But I'm interested more in Woble, tbh. I have the gut feeling her ability will allow for some powerful Nen-exorcism, the kind that allows self-restrictions to be reset (Ahem) or end long-lasting rituals (ahem). The hint for me of this is the fact that She's a baby.

 

[McNuss]

Most of her bodyguards haven't appeared too. I remember seeing their faces in the Jump Ryu video.

It actually sucks hard that Togashi designed all the teams already, yet is unwilling to share it with us. Would make navigating through the arc between all the breaks much easier if you could at least name who appears on paper.

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terrorsandwich!!

But I think Halkernberg got the better end of the stick vs Tserriednich. Tserriednich had to be personally trained to get that new nen beast of his. Halkenberg just needed his "resolve" set to the right direction.

Halkenburg was already an archery champion before he acquired his Nen ability. In order to create a Hatsu, you really need to occupy yourself with what should become part of your ability, that's why only people like Killua can make lightning Nen, he also got that affinity in advance due to the Zoldycks torture.

Tserriednich is talented but also seems to be a lazy bum only occupied with his pleasures. It's fairly likely that Theta not only taught him Nen, her dishonest schemings actually led to granting Tserriednich such a broken Hatsu ability.

 

[Toby_Temple]

Halkenburg was already an archery champion before he acquired his Nen ability. In order to create a Hatsu, you really need to occupy yourself with what should become part of your ability, that's why only people like Killua can make lightning Nen, he also got that affinity in advance due to the Zoldycks torture.

Yes. Still, his arrow and bow ability somehow came from his own will after going all in on the Battle for the Crown. If I remember correctly, Halkenburg never had anyone teach him how to use nen, unlike Tserreidnich.

Tserriednich is talented but also seems to be a lazy bum only occupied with his pleasures. It's fairly likely that Theta not only taught him Nen, her dishonest schemings actually led to granting Tserriednich such a broken Hatsu ability.

That is a very interesting take. It could also be due to Tserreidnich's nen beast being suspicious of Theta, and therefore did "something" to somehow grant him such a broken hatsu. Then you also have his character trait: a psychopath with a penchant for torturing his victims. I think all those things led to such a broken hatsu.

 

[Admiral Teach]

I'm pretty sure that Tserriednick's ability is a Specialist, and as such he was going ot have his hatsu regardless. The only other Specialist we've seen from before they had their hatsu to having it was Neferpitou, and she was already manipulating Paku... and then we go straight to her having a hatsu later on without it being shown what a Specialist must go through in order to have their ability. From the anime at least, it appears all Pitou needed was to concentrate on what she wanted... and the ability just sort of manifested. And it so in multiple ways besides just her Dr. Blythe. In fact, she should be a manipulator, given what most of her abilities do... and then suddenly there's Blythe who was her first ability, apparently. (She's an Chimera Ant and so the comparison is very shaky anyway).

For Tserriednick... we see how it develops and it seems like creating nen beasts is his Specialist power. I don't believe the time manipulation nen beast is even his only use of this power. It doesn't make sense to me. It would be more rational that he has a power very similar to his ancestor who created the jar ceremony. We discussed this way back when his ability first manifests.

I do agree that Theta's scheme was what activated this hatsu. Honestly... she should have gotten the other guard involved, and then both of them wait until Tserried was just beginning zetsu, and then attack directly with melee attacks AND pistol fire. Theta waited, if I recall, and then took aim to fire, and that was a mistake. Then again, if he was a weakling, they should have assumed they could maybe get away with assasinating the man if they were willing to chance casualties from his nen beast. How long could his beast survive after death? Seems like Kacho is an exception because of her purpose and connection with Fuugetsu, but I was assuming the beasts die right afterword and get absorbed by the jar ceremony's hidden room apparatus.

It could be though, that killing Tserriednick would have released an Revenant Nen guardian beast on the path for revenge. No doubt there'd have been carnage, given Tserried's personality. Theta and her comrade at least would have died in that case. So I guess the only answer was to aim for killing Tserriednick faster, or find or create an specific hatsu for putting him forcefully into Zetsu.

I'd have assumed honestly that with a beginner like him... it should have been possible to make such an ability. But I guess Theta and the other bodyguard lacked the capacities for that.

 

[McNuss]

I want to point out something - Benjamin is most likely a bluff, or rather an idiot like Castro.

By anything what we know of Nen so far, his Hatsu should be Specialization.
Specialization is furthest from Enhancement. Even if he's bulletproof or can wrestle with lions - he actually cannot keep this up in a Nen fight.

Now the abilities he is inheriting are basic cookie cutter abilities, I think that's what his soldier's mean when they claim they are below Hunters. They are all well trained in Nen but lack the innate dedication of a proper Hunter to come up with an intricate Hatsu.

So yeah in theory Benjamin Batton could be a better Chrollo, using multiple gained Hatsu at the same time with much greater ease.
However Chrollo's book is stacked with nothing but high Tier Hatsus, powers that alone would put most Nen masters on high alert.

His aggresive strategy is taking its toll on his team and when they are all gone he can't defend himself because he's a low tier spellcaster in an Uvogin cosplay.
He also has the least clue on his Nen beast ability.