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Can't even take the comparison seriously when you claim Mard has attack power on Jellal's level.
What sort of stupid logic is that? I guess Erza and Lucy did train either despite Majariv pointing out how Lucy's magic increased.You know, if you guys go strictly by feats, then Jellal was never shown to train during the timeskip.
Technically, we can't assume that Current Jellal >>> Tartaros Jellal. There is no proof.
Otherwise, I can assume that Mard Geer's Memento Mori works 100%.
By the way, Mard Geer has shown to casually heal himself of all injuries.
Unless Jellal can do the same, which he can't, I see Jellal's chances of winning at 0%.
Mard Geer will keep casually healing himself. Only way Jellal can beat him is oneshot, and he clearly isn't doing that.
Mard Geer matches Jellal in everything evenly.
They are equals in terms of Speed, Strength, Stamina, and Power/Energy.
Mard Geer beats Jellal in terms of Durability and Mard Geer can casually heal himself.
For me, this is obvious... I stick with my original conclusion:
Mard Geer wins mid-diff.
I have to agree here. Heck, I don't even consider Mard superior to Jacob and yet Mard got a massive win. Do people not understand that Mard Geer is not Spriggan tier?What sort of stupid logic is that? I guess Erza and Lucy did train either despite Majariv pointing out how Lucy's magic increased.
Mard Geer has never casually healed himself nor would he survive one Grand Chariot.
Jellal pretty much outclasses Mard in almost everything? Attack? Yup. Speed? Yup? Defence? Yup.
Jellal murders Mard, it's quite sad there's debate in such obvious stomp threads.
What sort of stupid logic is that? I guess Erza and Lucy did train either despite Majariv pointing out how Lucy's magic increased.
Mard Geer has never casually healed himself nor would he survive one Grand Chariot.
Jellal pretty much outclasses Mard in almost everything? Attack? Yup. Speed? Yup? Defence? Yup.
Jellal murders Mard, it's quite sad there's debate in such obvious stomp threads.
I wouldn't call Grand Chariot weak when it one-shotted Neinhart who is a Spriggan. To do that you need to be pretty powerful in general, and Mard definitely isn't Spriggan level. Even if Mard healed some of his injuries, he still has no feats of taking an attack as powerful as that Grand Chariot which even outclasses the Dragon Slayer's Secret Art Tartarus DF Natsu used on Mard, which nearly took him out. If you look back at Chapter 411, you can clearly see Mard barely held on to keep fighting after that, which when he went to attack Natsu he got finished off by Gray.Show me the pages where Jellal outclasses Mard in everything you said above. That's right, I don't think you can.
The way Jellal performed against OS/Neinhart looks exactly the same as the way Mard Geer performed against Gray/Natsu.
Actually, Mard Geer performed way better against Fairy Tail's strongest duo than Jellal against fodders.
As for your comment "Mard Geer never casually healed himself". Let me show you the pages:
Grand Chariot is weak AF. Secret Art Dragon Force Natsu couldn't even lay a scratch on Mard Geer. Don't tell me Mard Geer would be obliterated by 1 Grand Chariot.
I wouldn't call Grand Chariot weak when it one-shotted Neinhart who is a Spriggan. To do that you need to be pretty powerful in general, and Mard definitely isn't Spriggan level. Even if Mard healed some of his injuries, he still has no feats of taking an attack as powerful as that Grand Chariot which even outclasses the Dragon Slayer's Secret Art Tartarus DF Natsu used on Mard, which nearly took him out. If you look back at Chapter 411, you can clearly see Mard barely held on to keep fighting after that, which when he went to attack Natsu he got finished off by Gray.
Jellal wasn't trying to kill the Oracion Seis members, rather he was just trying to defeat them to then recruit them to Crime Sorciere. Without the intent to kill, he wouldn't be killing anyone.Neinhart is extremely bad durability. I say average to be nice.
Jellal isn't that powerful. His Sema didn't kill any of Pre-Timeskip OS members in Tartaros.
Jellal's Grand Chariot killed Neinhart in Alvarez.
Grand Chariot and Sema are equals more or less.
If Neinhart died and OS members (like Racer and Angel) survived...... Neinhart has complete total crap durability.
Jellal wasn't trying to kill the Oracion Seis members, rather he was just trying to defeat them to then recruit them to Crime Sorciere. Without the intent to kill, he wouldn't be killing anyone.
In Alvarez, Jellal had the intent to kill Neinhart, thus he didn't hold back and let rip with a serious Grand Chariot. Its a different situation to the fight with the Oracion Seis members because Jellal only had the intent to kill when he fought Neinhart. Now, Jellal's Sema in Tartarus was shown to be stronger than Grand Chariot, so it should be stronger this arc. If you're going to ask why Jellal didn't use Sema instead of Grand Chariot becasue Sema is the stronger attack, then I remind you of Sema's large AoE that would cause collateral damage given Jellal had the intent to kill.
In the tournament fights, the combatants have the intent to win by any means necessary. If that means having to go straight out into their aces to kill the opponent, they'll do that. Jellal's Grand Chariot and Sema should both be able to take out Mard Geer when Mard was nearly defeated by Tartarus DF Natsu's attack. Now Jellal has meteor to zip about in the air as well, so its not a given if Mard could hit him with Memento Mori either as its a more ground-based attack, so given that and Mard not having feats of taking properly strong attacks of the tier Jellal showed this arc (Grand Chariot on Neinhart), I'd say Jellal wins. Mard is seemingly being overhyped here.
I can't even take this seriously when you compare Grand Chariot with Sema which is much weaker but clearly improved by the timeskip. Otherwise, your arguments seem valid though I feel Jellal will win.Neinhart is extremely bad durability. I say average to be nice.
Jellal isn't that powerful. His Sema didn't kill any of Pre-Timeskip OS members in Tartaros.
Jellal's Grand Chariot killed Neinhart in Alvarez.
Grand Chariot and Sema are equals more or less.
If Neinhart died and OS members (like Racer and Angel) survived...... Neinhart has complete total crap durability.
COMPLETELY AGREED. He wasn't trying to kill them and this is sort of the trend with Fairy tail. If he would have killed them, they wouldn't have joined his guild. Mard Geer is receiving more support than I thought. I feel Jellal would win and this won't even be that close.Jellal wasn't trying to kill the Oracion Seis members, rather he was just trying to defeat them to then recruit them to Crime Sorciere. Without the intent to kill, he wouldn't be killing anyone.
In Alvarez, Jellal had the intent to kill Neinhart, thus he didn't hold back and let rip with a serious Grand Chariot. Its a different situation to the fight with the Oracion Seis members because Jellal only had the intent to kill when he fought Neinhart. Now, Jellal's Sema in Tartarus was shown to be stronger than Grand Chariot, so it should be stronger this arc. If you're going to ask why Jellal didn't use Sema instead of Grand Chariot becasue Sema is the stronger attack, then I remind you of Sema's large AoE that would cause collateral damage given Jellal had the intent to kill.
In the tournament fights, the combatants have the intent to win by any means necessary. If that means having to go straight out into their aces to kill the opponent, they'll do that. Jellal's Grand Chariot and Sema should both be able to take out Mard Geer when Mard was nearly defeated by Tartarus DF Natsu's attack. Now Jellal has meteor to zip about in the air as well, so its not a given if Mard could hit him with Memento Mori either as its a more ground-based attack, so given that and Mard not having feats of taking properly strong attacks of the tier Jellal showed this arc (Grand Chariot on Neinhart), I'd say Jellal wins. Mard is seemingly being overhyped here.
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