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Given the fact that Yuno has much more spells than anyone in this manga (somewhere around 15-17) for all occasions (attacking, defensive, enhancing, support) so he at level 0000, yeah?:3c
Then what about the likes of Rill who can use any type of magic thanks to his paint and Jack whose magic adapts to and counters any other magic? 🤔
 

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Then what about the likes of Rill who can use any type of magic thanks to his paint and Jack whose magic adapts to and counters any other magic? 🤔
This suggests that they are obviously stronger than the level at which they put by readers but readers like the big bearded men with katana, who can not do anything except chopping. :derp

P.s You do not have to be a genius to understand a simple truth. In fights between magicians, the one with more spells (variability) and magical energy wins.
 

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This suggests that they are obviously stronger than the level at which they put by readers but readers like the big bearded men with katana, who can not do anything except chopping. :derp

P.s You do not have to be a genius to understand a simple truth. In fights between magicians, the one with more spells (variability) and magical energy wins.
Meanwhile, Reve vs BBs . . .
 

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I Think Julius is the strongest character we have seen. Probably only the Demon is stronger. I'm also pretty sure that the first emperor would have won against Julius because of the match up, but i really think he is OP. He overwhelmed Patry without even trying to wound William's body, he demonstrated that time magic it's unbelivable, that he has an incredible control of mana zone and also that he can read the future(somehow). I really do not know how someone could kill him, yeah, we know patry did it, but with a trick. I'm pretty sure that Only the Demon and the first emperor have the power to overcome Julius, but i'am pretty sure that Julius is even stronger than the first emperor and that he would lose only for the match-up, like Yami could stand against patry only for the same reason(and we should remember that if there wasn't Gauche both Yami and Asta would have been killed).
 

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I Think Julius is the strongest character we have seen. Probably only the Demon is stronger. I'm also pretty sure that the first emperor would have won against Julius because of the match up, but i really think he is OP. He overwhelmed Patry without even trying to wound William's body, he demonstrated that time magic it's unbelivable, that he has an incredible control of mana zone and also that he can read the future(somehow). I really do not know how someone could kill him, yeah, we know patry did it, but with a trick. I'm pretty sure that Only the Demon and the first emperor have the power to overcome Julius, but i'am pretty sure that Julius is even stronger than the first emperor and that he would lose only for the match-up, like Yami could stand against patry only for the same reason(and we should remember that if there wasn't Gauche both Yami and Asta would have been killed).
Meanwhile, the WQ's mana zone covers the whole Witches Forest and the golems 24/7, also can read the future, didn't even faze when the forest was attacked or had been nearly burned down.
The princess's mana zone covers the whole country and can process information in seconds.

Both didn't go all out. Let's see what they can do and judge after that .Adding the leader of Spade + Megicula combo to the mix,both of the 3 above could be overshadowed easily.
 

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Maybe, we will see.
 

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Julius
Paltry
Mereleona
Witch Queen
 

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Going by the implications in the past 2 chapters, it seems as if William is an Arcane Mage.
 

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Soooooo..... in short:

Stage 0

Devils

Spirits

Licth

Lumiere

Julius

Loropechka

Guardians of the Spirit

Dark disciples

Yuno

Captains

True Magic Luck

Stage 1


Noelle

Luck:

Vice-captains

Stage 3

Finral

Mimosa

Stage 5

Magna


Stage 6

Secre

Stage 9

Asta


Arcane Sage

Asta
Secre
Yami
William
Julius
Vanessa
Gray
 
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Soooooo..... in short:

Stage 0

Devils

Spirits

Licth

Lumiere

Julius

Loropechka

Guardians of the Spirit

Dark disciples

Yuno

Captains

Stage 1


Noelle

Luck:

Vice-captains

Stage 3

Finral

Mimosa

Stage 5

Magna


Stage 6

Secre

Stage 9

Asta


Arcane Sage

Asta
Secre
Yami
William
Julius
Vanessa
Gray
Yup checks out Fairly certain Noelle will be Tier 0 post timeskip though
 

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Lucifer
Megicula
Lilith
Naham
Dante 100%
Zenon 100%
Vanica 100%
Zagred
Licth
Lumiere
Julius
Mereleona post timeskip
Yami post timeskip
Giant demons
Dante 80%
Yuno Borea
Zenon 70%
Fuegoloen with Salamandra
Mereleona
Charlotte post timeskip
Jack post timeskip
Vanica 80%
Dante 60%
Dante 50%
Zenon 55%
Patry dark elf
Yami
Vetto post reincarnation
Raia post reincarnation
Fana post reincarnation
Patry post reincarnation
Loropechka
Kaiser elf
Charmy hybrid form
Rila
Reve
Drowa
Charla
Fuegoleon
Nozelle
Gaja
William
Witch Queen
Damnatio
Nacth
Asta post timeskip
Yuno elf spirit dive
Raia third eye
Vetto third eye
Fana third eye
Patry
Jack
Dorothy
Kaiser
Rill post timeskip
Ruful
Asta Black Divider
Noelle mermaid form
Yuno post timeskip spirit dive
Diamond generals empowered by Vanica
Rill
Black Asta
Leopold post timeskip
Luck post timeskip
Mimosa post timeskip powered up by Undine
Vanica Dark disciples
Other Guardians of the spirit
Zenon Dark Disciples
Radols with Salamander
Gueldre
Yuno spirit dive
Noelle Valkyre Dress
Kivn
Langris
Noelle post timeskip
Klaus post timeskip
Radols
Mars
Yuno
Old Diamond generals
 
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So do we believe the claims about Gajah still?
 

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So do we believe the claims about Gajah still?
What do you mean? He's the first on-screen confirmed Stage 0. He's always had the chops to go toe to toe against a Devil, just not kill one. With Ultimate Magic, he now has the means, but Megicula is a Supreme Devil, so she's not going to go down that easily.
 

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What do you mean? He's the first on-screen confirmed Stage 0. He's always had the chops to go toe to toe against a Devil, just not kill one. With Ultimate Magic, he now has the means, but Megicula is a Supreme Devil, so she's not going to go down that easily.
I mean my mans has been lowkey played.
 

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I mean my mans has been lowkey played.
If we're being technical, he could have killed the combo at any point before Megicula actually manifested, which was within the scope of the original plan that Loro proposed before the timeskip.
 

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If we're being technical, he could have killed the combo at any point before Megicula actually manifested, which was within the scope of the original plan that Loro proposed before the timeskip.
Combo?
 

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He could have taken Vanica and Megicula on before Megicula manifested.
Hmm, well I honestly would have liked seeing him have some kind of real battle. An id still like to see it.

At this point I’m more focused on how I want the reveal of this last Spirit Dive to go. That and the fact that once he has its Fuego becomes the absolute favorite to become the next WK.
 
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