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Team Natsu and Zeref vs Laxus Jellal Gildarts August God Serena Larcade and Irene

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Dragneel bros takes on the most powerful wizards

This is composite natsu

Restrictions: Fairy Heart

Zeref can’t be killed but he can be knocked out, so the question is. Can they knock him out?
 

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This is just Natsu vs Team. Zeref is fodder and non-factor. If this the one that fought Merc then Natsu can take them all out. This is his most physically powerful form and with his ability to burn magic, Natsu should take this. Any other form the team should win.
 
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What is composite Natsu? All his forms together? If it includes Dragon Cry form, then he wins. If not, August, Gildarts, Irene, Larcade - solo. Laxus also if fight one on one. Zeref is crap lvl
 
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If not, August, Gildarts, Irene, Larcade - solo. Laxus also if fight one on one.
They are not soloing Ignia - Natsu or DF Natsu nor POF Natsu
 

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Gildarts solo. August solo. Irene solo.
Maybe even Laxus now with red Lightning or close battle if Fairy Heart is restricted the same way as Dragon Force.
If access to Dragon Force or Fairy Heart, then, Gildarts, August and Irene still solo. Dragon Force use too far stamina and MP and all the three can tank enough and Fairy Heart only give unlimited reserve but no boost enough to kill them. The three, even split, are stronger...
 

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Time stop gg
 

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Gildarts solo. August solo. Irene solo.
This is a Composite Natsu. All of them will be one-shotted. So he can use all the forms he has used up to now. Natsu's Ignia turned Mercophobia(natural born dragon) into a human with his flames. The only one who would benefit from this will Irene provided she isn't already ashed. I just feel sorry for the rest. Erza will be turned into a lesser human along with his plans.

People really underestimate Natsu.
 

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This is a Composite Natsu. All of them will be one-shotted. So he can use all the forms he has used up to now. Natsu's Ignia turned Mercophobia(natural born dragon) into a human with his flames. The only one who would benefit from this will Irene provided she isn't already ashed. I just feel sorry for the rest. Erza will be turned into a lesser human along with his plans.
Ok, I was thinking about Natsu as his own ressource, no Ignia's boost or Ignir's one shot ultimate Dragon King power. In his own ressource, all of the 3 are clearly above (Gildarts, Irene and August, solo), even with Zeleph as partner.

If we can count Ignia's boost, Natsu were on par or slightly above Mercphobia who were half power. So he is above them in one on one but vs the 3 or 4 together, I think this isn't enough. Irene can boost allies with incredible enchants if necesary. Still, Gildarts, Irene and August are, until now, the strongest wizards in the Manga, with Erza under conditions (PoF).

But taking account of external power up is not fair. It is not his own magic power and can't use it again, like his true Ignir's flames.
 

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Natsu solo's using his Merc form or Dragon Cry form or "guild flames" form.

Zeref, since he's without FH, is inconsequential (well, he can stop time and stomp everyone here except August, but he will lose to August)
 

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Irene and August are the only reason they can take on Zeref alone, but add composite Natsu and it becomes a mega stomp lmao.
 

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Composite Natsu solos by himself.
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Gildarts solo. August solo. Irene solo.
Maybe even Laxus now with red Lightning or close battle if Fairy Heart is restricted the same way as Dragon Force.
If access to Dragon Force or Fairy Heart, then, Gildarts, August and Irene still solo. Dragon Force use too far stamina and MP and all the three can tank enough and Fairy Heart only give unlimited reserve but no boost enough to kill them. The three, even split, are stronger...
Hahahahahaha.

Natsu solos all three. This is composite.
 

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Hahahahahaha.

Natsu solos all three. This is composite.
Well, in my answer, I didn't understand what "composite Natsu" was, so I was calling about Natsu's own power. If so, Natsu with the power of the 7 Dragon Slayer one shot them as he one shot Acnologia. But why using a Natsu who can't use these magic again anyway ?
 

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Zeref adds no value to his team. If Natsu is composite he has no need for fodder Zeref. If Natsu is not composite then Zeref being in his team is useless as well. August is on the other he can counter his time stop, then he can fodderized by the rest. His only feats are killing cripples. Although we can't ignore the fact that he rules Irene with an Iron Fist. Maybe they just didn't want to rebel against them out of pity.
 

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Although we can't ignore the fact that he rules Irene with an Iron Fist. Maybe they just didn't want to rebel against them out of pity.
August knows he was his son, so he served him and didn't want to rebel against him, even so he was far stronger than his father. He wanted his love but couldn't tell him he was his son, the same way Cana couldn't tell Gildarts when she was a child.

Irene served him because he helped her for her dragon curse, even if it was only physical because she was still a dragon.

They had respect to him. But we have to take account that Irene or August were far stronger than Zeleph.
 

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Well, in my answer, I didn't understand what "composite Natsu" was, so I was calling about Natsu's own power. If so, Natsu with the power of the 7 Dragon Slayer one shot them as he one shot Acnologia. But why using a Natsu who can't use these magic again anyway ?
Composite meanss all forms and feats. So he gets manga, anime, game, novel and feats where possible.
 

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Composite meanss all forms and feats. So he gets manga, anime, game, novel and feats where possible.
ok thanks…. Natsu for the win. Ignia + Ignil's flames + 7 Dragon Slayer's magic are quite enough to take on them solo
 

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Zeref adds no value to his team. If Natsu is composite he has no need for fodder Zeref. If Natsu is not composite then Zeref being in his team is useless as well. August is on the other he can counter his time stop, then he can fodderized by the rest. His only feats are killing cripples. Although we can't ignore the fact that he rules Irene with an Iron Fist. Maybe they just didn't want to rebel against them out of pity.
Finally we have something that we both agree with 😂 That zeref is weak.

Seriously tho, Irene and August had better feats than him and his immortality is the only thing that kept him formidable. His death wave wasn’t even that impressive for it has been avoided by fodders. Tho I’m only talking about Zeref’s combat feats.
 

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Finally we have something that we both agree with 😂 That zeref is weak.

Seriously tho, Irene and August had better feats than him and his immortality is the only thing that kept him formidable. His death wave wasn’t even that impressive for it has been avoided by fodders. Tho I’m only talking about Zeref’s combat feats.
Zeref literally made Eileen his bitch, he was more knowledgeable in enchantment than Eileen herself.

August is, probably stronger than Zeref, since he has magic immunity/copy.

Death wave may be avoided, but it depends on when it's released. It's RNG
Zeref can stop time. That instantly takes anyone not having time magic out of the equation. Leaving only August, Dimaria and Ultear.
 

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Zeref literally made Eileen his bitch, he was more knowledgeable in enchantment than Eileen herself.

August is, probably stronger than Zeref, since he has magic immunity/copy.

Death wave may be avoided, but it depends on when it's released. It's RNG
Zeref can stop time. That instantly takes anyone not having time magic out of the equation. Leaving only August, Dimaria and Ultear.
Zeref isn't needed lol
 
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