Discussion New "One for All" Teacher

[ShenGao]

It is clear that All Mights time is almost over, Deku already saw him with the other previous "One for All" users in Chapter 33 and his "Hero All Might" form is limited to a tiny amount of time everyday.
With what was shown in Chapter 40 Deku is still very far away from controlling "One for All" and without All Might it will only become harder, if not impossible, for Deku to master "One for All".
A new teacher with knowledge about "One for All" will be necessary for Deku, but who will that be?

So far only 3 other people besides Deku and All Might know about the power "One for All": Recovery Girl, Police Officer Tsukauchi Naomasa (All Mights close friend) and lastly the principle of UA. Could one of these 3 be a possible new personal teacher for Deku Or would you like to see someone else as his new teacher? Could the previous "One for All" users do more than what All Might said in Chapter 34?

 

[kkck]

Well, all of this assumes allmight will die when OFA finally leaves him which is not necessarily the case. Or has that been said?

The other thing it assumes is that midoriya really needs allmight for this. Midoriya already has some degree of control over OFA and its powers are not in itself complex, they are just difficult for his body to tolerate. And that is mostly because midoriya is not physically powerful enough to handle the quirk which will for the most part solve itself via midoriya hitting the gym and eating protein bars like a douchebag.

Most people kinda figure out their quirk on their own, there is no reason for midoriya to be significantly different.

 

[ShenGao]

Well, all of this assumes allmight will die when OFA finally leaves him which is not necessarily the case. Or has that been said?

The other thing it assumes is that midoriya really needs allmight for this. Midoriya already has some degree of control over OFA and its powers are not in itself complex, they are just difficult for his body to tolerate. And that is mostly because midoriya is not physically powerful enough to handle the quirk which will for the most part solve itself via midoriya hitting the gym and eating protein bars like a douchebag.

Most people kinda figure out their quirk on their own, there is no reason for midoriya to be significantly different.

All Might will die and this very soon. Deku already saw him with the other OfA users and his time limit is already ridiculously short. Even if All Might souldn't die by losing OfA, he is still the target of the villain alliance and there is also the fact that at least 8 previous OfA users died in less than 100 years, not normal for a natural death by age and impossible to get killed and give OfA to the next one. And don't forget the foreshadowing of Chapter 20 with the "Earth-shaking event to come", something that would fit to the death of the number one hero and symbol of peace.

As seen in Chapter 40 he still doesn't have any control, he was so obsessed with not letting All Mights expectation down that he in the end destroyed his body. All Might also gave him the examle with the microwave and the egg to get a better feeling of OfA, don't let the egg explode. Something Deku would pretty much not have come up with himself.

 

[kkck]

All Might will die and this very soon. Deku already saw him with the other OfA users and his time limit is already ridiculously short. Even if All Might souldn't die by losing OfA, he is still the target of the villain alliance and there is also the fact that at least 8 previous OfA users died in less than 100 years, not normal for a natural death by age and impossible to get killed and give OfA to the next one. And don't forget the foreshadowing of Chapter 20 with the "Earth-shaking event to come", something that would fit to the death of the number one hero and symbol of peace.

As seen in Chapter 40 he still doesn't have any control, he was so obsessed with not letting All Mights expectation down that he in the end destroyed his body. All Might also gave him the examle with the microwave and the egg to get a better feeling of OfA, don't let the egg explode. Something Deku would pretty much not have come up with himself.

Deku seeing him along with the others does not mean allmight will die. I mean, how? His power is not inherently magic, nor can he look into the future. As far as we know that is simply an imprint of the past users of OFA, that's it. Nothing rules out even the past users of OFA being alive, the manga does not say anything about any of them being dead.

 

[ShenGao]

Deku seeing him along with the others does not mean allmight will die. I mean, how? His power is not inherently magic, nor can he look into the future. As far as we know that is simply an imprint of the past users of OFA, that's it. Nothing rules out even the past users of OFA being alive, the manga does not say anything about any of them being dead.

Even if the previous OfA users would be alive, why were they never mentioned? Is that because all of them had a second form like All Might? Or is that another effect of OfA, that after you gave the power to the next one everyone forgets about you? We need more information about OfA, maybe even a whole Arc about it, but so far because the previous OfA users were never mentioned, not by teachers, media, other students or someone else, something must have happened to them.

I just can't see All Might living that much longer. He is constantly coughing up blood. Beeing the target of a psychopathic group of villains with overpowered Quirks doesn't help, too. That also Heroes like Endeavor want to crush him, and there have to be more Heroes who think like Endeavor about All Might, is another factor. If it would be made public that All Might doesn't have his strength anymore he could even become the target of such Heroes who are envious of him and want to show that they are superior.

 

[kkck]

Even if the previous OfA users would be alive, why were they never mentioned? Is that because all of them had a second form like All Might? Or is that another effect of OfA, that after you gave the power to the next one everyone forgets about you? We need more information about OfA, maybe even a whole Arc about it, but so far because the previous OfA users were never mentioned, not by teachers, media, other students or someone else, something must have happened to them.

I just can't see All Might living that much longer. He is constantly coughing up blood. Beeing the target of a psychopathic group of villains with overpowered Quirks doesn't help, too. That also Heroes like Endeavor want to crush him, and there have to be more Heroes who think like Endeavor about All Might, is another factor. If it would be made public that All Might doesn't have his strength anymore he could even become the target of such Heroes who are envious of him and want to show that they are superior.

Well, allmight to begin with was sickly because of his fight with a villain that cost him a number of organs. He is probably dying because of that however that is something he had going on before he gave up his quirk. Still, no mention of giving up his quirk being what killed him.

His alternate appearance would actually protect him from villains though. No one recognizes him while in it.

 

[Demonspeed]

All Might should be the only one able to teach him, even if he loses his powers he won't die, I am sure he will die later but not now, the others can't use it, they won't be able to teach im properly. All Might needs to be more strict with him after this last match, more like Aizawa and... Endeavor.

 

[kkck]

More strict? He went up and told a midoriya whom he knew could only fight via tearing himself apart to stand in that podium and announce that he had arrived. Allmight needs to cut midoriya some slack, not be even more strict with him. And what exactly does midoriya have to learn about OFA? Its not like it has special moves or anything of the sort as far as we know. Its simple overwhelming power, that's it. I am not sure of what exactly it is that he is supposed to learn from allmight at least. What midoriya needs is a body building instructor more than allmight. Unless allmight can somehow fulfil that role.

 

[ShenGao]

More strict? He went up and told a midoriya whom he knew could only fight via tearing himself apart to stand in that podium and announce that he had arrived. Allmight needs to cut midoriya some slack, not be even more strict with him. And what exactly does midoriya have to learn about OFA? Its not like it has special moves or anything of the sort as far as we know. Its simple overwhelming power, that's it. I am not sure of what exactly it is that he is supposed to learn from allmight at least. What midoriya needs is a body building instructor more than allmight. Unless allmight can somehow fulfil that role.

I agree with the point that All Might gives Deku too much pressure, the result beeing that Deku destroyed his right hand and needs a surgery.

But a bodybuilder can't be the solution of mastering OfA. After 1 year of a strict training plan from All Might and countless uses of OfA Deku reached 5% of the power. If the growth of controlling OfA continues like that Deku won't be ready to present himself as the new symbol of hope before he is 30 years old. All Might, just like the previous users, must somehow have mastered OfA and probably not all of them had access to a healing Quirk like that from Recovery Girl. They had to master it fast and without risking the complete destruction of their bodies.
There has to be a fast method to mastering OfA and Deku should better learn this method in the near future, otherwise his body won't hold out for much longer.

 

[kkck]

I agree with the point that All Might gives Deku too much pressure, the result beeing that Deku destroyed his right hand and needs a surgery.

But a bodybuilder can't be the solution of mastering OfA. After 1 year of a strict training plan from All Might and countless uses of OfA Deku reached 5% of the power. If the growth of controlling OfA continues like that Deku won't be ready to present himself as the new symbol of hope before he is 30 years old. All Might, just like the previous users, must somehow have mastered OfA and probably not all of them had access to a healing Quirk like that from Recovery Girl. They had to master it fast and without risking the complete destruction of their bodies.
There has to be a fast method to mastering OfA and Deku should better learn this method in the near future, otherwise his body won't hold out for much longer.

Isn't that exactly the point that has been made through the manga? The situation is not that deku is "misusing" the power, the situation is that he is physically unable to handle it. His body is weak and thus using even a small portion of the power is a conceptual impossibility. Even now deku's focus is not learning how to use the full extent of the quirk (technically he can already do that) but rather control it enough so that he can use a portion, however small, without hurting himself. Since the issue is how physically strong deku isn't then the solution, which is naturally long term, is that deku becomes physically powerful. I am not sure of what a fast way of mastering OFA would be considering what the manga has said so far.

 

[Newkerzy]

I have a feeling it may involve doping him high on certain drugs to speed up muscle growth. Of course, this certain therapy is extremely dangerous, but I wouldn't put it past AM and Recovery Girl to develop this therapy on the occasion that AM is dead and they need to hurry up the progress, because whoever kills AM has to be defeated soon to restore peace. It's basically their last resort.

Another possible option is to bathe in AM's blood. Someone theorized that Deku might end up killing him, being forced by AM to do so. By bathing in his blood, OFA is absorbed entirely into Deku's body, unlocking it's full capabilities. But I don't know how likely that is. It would also reveal one part of the dark truth about his Quirk. That all previous users of OFA were murdered by the successors not just to keep the secret from falling into the wrong hands, but also to awaken its potential.

 

[ShenGao]

2 times Deku could use OfA without breaking any bones, against Noumu and while trying to get the headband from Todoroki back. Against Noumu he unconsciously used OfA, he wanted to save Tsuyu but didn't want to kill the other villain who was protected from Nomou, and against Todoroki he only wanted to get the headband back and not hurt him. These 2 times are the proof that Deku has a body that can withstand the use of OfA, what he needs now is a way to master that. To master it he will need a teacher like the almost dead All Might who knows everything about OfA, because if he learns the use of his Quirk on his own like his classmates than he will need 10+ years before he would be there where they are now.

If a muscular body would be all to master OfA than, like Newkerzy said, All Might could dope him and a new symbol of hope would be born in a few weeks/months. But to use drugs for getting stronger isn't how the Superhero stories go, at least not the typical good ones where the MC wants to be the savior of his family/city/world.

 

[Newkerzy]

I agree with you. But like I said, the procedure would be a last resort. If it does happen, it will be a bit further down the line. If the ones in the know feel Deku can't possibly defeat AM's killer at his current stage of progress, they may very well resort to the dangerous procedure.

 

[kkck]

However the issue remains, midoriya does not have a shred of a problem accessing OFA's true capability. The problem presented in the manga is specifically that deku can't physically handle the power yet, he does not have the sheer physical capacity for it. Deku can already access the whole of OFA if he wants to. Within that context the only way to help him would be to somehow force his body into being capable of tolerating the full force of OFA without destroying it. Deku right now is focusing on mastering his control so that he specifically won't draw out the insane full power which he can already call out at will. He is learning specifically to draw as little as possible. Once he gets that he will need time to adjust to greater amounts of power which should come naturally as he physically grows stronger and capable of handling the power. The manga has given no information or context under which it makes sense for the problem midoriya has to be related to an incomplete power or not drawing enough...

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2 times Deku could use OfA without breaking any bones, against Noumu and while trying to get the headband from Todoroki back. Against Noumu he unconsciously used OfA, he wanted to save Tsuyu but didn't want to kill the other villain who was protected from Nomou, and against Todoroki he only wanted to get the headband back and not hurt him. These 2 times are the proof that Deku has a body that can withstand the use of OfA, what he needs now is a way to master that. To master it he will need a teacher like the almost dead All Might who knows everything about OfA, because if he learns the use of his Quirk on his own like his classmates than he will need 10+ years before he would be there where they are now.

If a muscular body would be all to master OfA than, like Newkerzy said, All Might could dope him and a new symbol of hope would be born in a few weeks/months. But to use drugs for getting stronger isn't how the Superhero stories go, at least not the typical good ones where the MC wants to be the savior of his family/city/world.

I think you are getting deku's successful use of OFA a tad wrong. Did you notice how todoroki exploded was his insides covered the audience after he took the punch from midoriya? Did you notice how taking the headband resulted in todoroki's head exploding? Or how they had to scrape that villain of the floor and walls of the place? No? That's because midoriya in those moments used one for all but at a level he could handle, he hit those people with far less power than what he usually does. Probably even far less than what he has been doing literally with one finger so far.

 

[ShenGao]

I think you are getting deku's successful use of OFA a tad wrong. Did you notice how todoroki exploded was his insides covered the audience after he took the punch from midoriya? Did you notice how taking the headband resulted in todoroki's head exploding? Or how they had to scrape that villain of the floor and walls of the place? No? That's because midoriya in those moments used one for all but at a level he could handle, he hit those people with far less power than what he usually does. Probably even far less than what he has been doing literally with one finger so far.

I didn't say that Deku was able to use the 100% of OfA without breaking his bones, i said he was able to controll the use of OfA and limit it to the 5% his body is capable of handling. This unconscious control he used, because he doesn't want to hurt/kill someone, is what he needs to master. With his growing body and strength he has to raise the percentage he can use of OfA and that is something he on his own can't do, at least not in the next 15 years with destroying his body countless times.

The other OfA users were able to use it and pass it on to the next one, not all of them could have access to a Recovery Girl like Quirk that heals them after every false use, if they trained with the same strict plan as Deku and started at the same age he did they could start their Hero career when they are 35 years old which would be too old for Deku to start his Hero career in a Shonen Manga, the foreshadowing of the previous users will play a bigger role in the future, the previous users had a huge effect on Deku and made him see things that were not there because they probably didn't want him to lose, All Might is already coughing up blood when he just gets scared and lastly Deku saw All Might in that vision of the previous users but All Might didn't tell him everything about the meaning of that vision.
All these factors lead to this inevitable conclusion:
- All Might will die
- There has to be a way to master OfA in less than a decade
- A strong body is only half of that way
- The previous users have more power than just to appear once when a OfA user reaches a milestone and they will play a bigger part in Dekus growth as a Hero

 

[kkck]

I didn't say that Deku was able to use the 100% of OfA without breaking his bones, i said he was able to controll the use of OfA and limit it to the 5% his body is capable of handling. This unconscious control he used, because he doesn't want to hurt/kill someone, is what he needs to master. With his growing body and strength he has to raise the percentage he can use of OfA and that is something he on his own can't do, at least not in the next 15 years with destroying his body countless times.

The other OfA users were able to use it and pass it on to the next one, not all of them could have access to a Recovery Girl like Quirk that heals them after every false use, if they trained with the same strict plan as Deku and started at the same age he did they could start their Hero career when they are 35 years old which would be too old for Deku to start his Hero career in a Shonen Manga, the foreshadowing of the previous users will play a bigger role in the future, the previous users had a huge effect on Deku and made him see things that were not there because they probably didn't want him to lose, All Might is already coughing up blood when he just gets scared and lastly Deku saw All Might in that vision of the previous users but All Might didn't tell him everything about the meaning of that vision.
All these factors lead to this inevitable conclusion:
- All Might will die
- There has to be a way to master OfA in less than a decade
- A strong body is only half of that way
- The previous users have more power than just to appear once when a OfA user reaches a milestone and they will play a bigger part in Dekus growth as a Hero

There is no reason for mastering OFA to take so long even with injuries and all. I mean, why? MIdoriya has had his quirk for a few months at best and he already has a feel of how to use the quirk at a level where it won't obliterate others nor continue to damage him as he has done. Once he can do that at will there will no longer be a reason for him to get hurt from the quirk unless he chooses to be reckess. Midoriya needs to be pjhysically powerful on his own and being a 15 year old kid in a manga there is no reason for him to be unable to get that with only relatively normal training. Even in real life its plausible to gain substantial amounts of muscle mass within months... While mastering OFA is likely to take years, getting to use it to a point where he could be long considered superpowered should not take him longer than what it takes him to finish high school, basically by the time he is a full grown adult.


The only reason so far for a prior user of OFA to appear would be to teach something specific which allmight for whatever reason can't teach. And at this point that would kinda kinda ridiculous because OFA does not seem to have special techniques or anything of the sort. Its just standard and insane super strength.... And even now it seems like there is nothing allmight can teach midoriya. I mean, what has he taught him? He told him nothing useful about to how to use the power, just something about the feeling... He was so vague about how OFA can break his body initially he might as well have been aiming for midoriya to break his arm... He has not pointed to there being special techniques to OFA. Basically midoriya has had to figure everything out on his own...