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lucky roo is not shanks' vicecaptain,hence he should be weaker than him. rayleigh is the strongest of the group,whereas perona and brook are the weakest. drake should be stronger than hawkins and apoo now,but I doubt he can defeat lucky roo. anyway,I vote rake and ray because I hope drake is gonna appear...Even though I think Rayleigh is the top here, the other 4 probably could take him down if they worked together. Lucky Roo is probably strong enough to hold his own against Rayleigh, at least for a while. Long enough for Perona to use her Negative ghosts against Rayleigh, anyway. If she was smart, she'd take them both out at the same time.
Repuation and status cant win a whole tournament. Thats such a stupid argument!I'm going to go for Rayleigh and Roo on this one. It's a matter of status and reputation. We haven't seen much from Roo, but we haven't seen much from Drake either, and as mentioned Brook and Perona are probably not operating on the same level.
we saw even more from Brook, and he won several out of them. yet you won't vote him. why is that? isn't it because of "Repuation and status"? someone else thinking different thoughts than yours is not stupid. if the tournament is all about "shown ability", then Luffy would have already won this tournament. there is no denying that he has shown the most. yet, we didn't choose him over others, others, who didn't shown anything of their power. why is that you may ask. "shown ability" is not the only factor. reputation and status plays even more important role.Repuation and status cant win a whole tournament. Thats such a stupid argument!
What we did see from Roo was, that he eats a lot and can use a pistol.
What we did see from Drake was a fight against a pacifister, stopping the fight between Uruoge and Killer, transforming into a T-Rex with his DF and starting a fight with Kaidous men - and since then, two years has passed!
I give Drake also a bounty over 400mio, and in this fight, I give him 2nd place, because we saw much more from him, than from Roo, and I am sure he also will have a important role in future.
Reputation and status can be used effectively when there is sufficient enough of a perceived gap between two individuals. Drake's feats don't register against the competition. The pacifista's were powerful foes prior to the time skip, but as we've seen, they would be unlikely to even register as threatening foes in the NW. Everything else that you've spouted about Drake requires assumptions about what he faced, based on reputation. The only thing we saw was Drake threaten some guy in the NW, without any knowledge of that guy's rank. Drake hasn't shown much by NW standards, that's just a fact. Your 'projections' about his bounty, and potential role in the future, is far less relevant as an indicator of combat ability than the reputation of one of Shanks' primary crewmembers. And I don't see your strong support being thrown behind Brook, someone we've seen far more from, so your argument seems to be based far more on your personal preference for the character than an analytical approach to the fight. It's completely acceptable to back the characters you prefer, but don't attempt to criticise and chastise others on merits from behind such thinly veiled favouritism.Repuation and status cant win a whole tournament. Thats such a stupid argument!
What we did see from Roo was, that he eats a lot and can use a pistol.
What we did see from Drake was a fight against a pacifister, stopping the fight between Uruoge and Killer, transforming into a T-Rex with his DF and starting a fight with Kaidous men - and since then, two years has passed!
I give Drake also a bounty over 400mio, and in this fight, I give him 2nd place, because we saw much more from him, than from Roo, and I am sure he also will have a important role in future.
Lucky Roo is overestimated becauseScotch could be a top-member of kaidos crew aswell, yet drake certainly/probably dispatched him easily.
why the double standard? i wonder.....but more impressive than the sheer status of "beeing somewhere in a yonkous crew".
At least one who understands that something like this ruins the tournament. Winning cause you are in a Yonkous crew is ridiculous and a bad joke.Ray and drake here aswell.
Yasopp had at least 1 chapter to shine, while roo on the other hand...
Drake has an incredibly high bounty, Supernovas can be considered the fourth strongest "group" after navy, yonkou and shishibukai.
So a New world supernova captian should be at least equal to a yonkous top-officer. Since we dont know how roo is exactly ranked among shanks crew, neither did we see anything from him despite one shotting a noobish bandit, so i agree with the first point: It would be ridicolous if he advances instead of Drake.
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Drake is on his own, while roo is under protection by his crew, yet drake seemed to be filled with enough self esteem to recklessly charge one of a yonkous higher subordinates. He also tried to attack an admiral, even though he knew what powers kizaru had (since he was a marine aswell).
So maybe he hasnt shown veeeeery impressive things, but more impressive than the sheer status of "beeing somewhere in a yonkous crew".
Scotch could be a top-member of kaidos crew aswell, yet drake certainly/probably dispatched him easily.
I love the sheer hypocrisy of your, and Pigov's, comments. Drake is strong because he took on some random member of Kaidou's crew is based on the reputation of Scotch, an individual with unknown status within Kaidou's crew. To get to the conclusion that Drake is strong from this encounter you have to accept the premise that Scotch is strong simply because he is a member of a Yonkou's crew. So why are you attributing such ability to an unclassified member of Kaidou's crew, but unwilling to attribute strength to Roo, a central member of Shanks' crew? It is mindboggling that you don't get it.At least one who understands that something like this ruins the tournament. Winning cause you are in a Yonkous crew is ridiculous and a bad joke.
Scotch is also in a Yonkous crew, he should definitely participate in this tournament too.. Also the Gorosei! They would automatically win because of their status
And whats with Kaidou or Big Mum? Oh I forgot, Big Mum lost against Van Oger from BB crew
And there you go, we/i are like that to show that the other possible choice, lucky roo, would be filled with even more hypocrisy.I love the sheer hypocrisy of your, and Pigov's, comments. Drake is strong because he took on some random member of Kaidou's crew is based on the reputation of Scotch, an individual with unknown status within Kaidou's crew. To get to the conclusion that Drake is strong from this encounter you have to accept the premise that Scotch is strong simply because he is a member of a Yonkou's crew. So why are you attributing such ability to an unclassified member of Kaidou's crew, but unwilling to attribute strength to Roo, a central member of Shanks' crew? It is mindboggling that you don't get it.