Furthermore, when was it ever said that Hyoutei "rivaled" Rikkai? They lost 0-3 the previous year, as did every other team besides Seigaku. Before this year, Rikkai had no real rivals.
Sanada says at the Kantou draw, "The ones to look out for... Are Hyoutei!!".
That's a big statement to make.
This is the same kind of nonsense logic that put Chitose and Kite down for a long time. If there was a team that consisted of Yukimura, Sanada, Tezuka, Ryoma, Kintarou, Atobe, Fuji, would losing to whoever is the worst of them mean that their opponent sucked? Of course not. Unless of course you're saying that every team besides Rikkai, Seigaku and Shiten is a joke.
Except a team consisting of those guys doesn't exist and you're now taking things out of proportion.
A dream team and an actual school team are different.
I don't know what you're talking about with "Chitose and Kite" or the term nonsense logic either.
I should have been more specific and said a joke in comparison to Rikkai.
As I said "their challenge becomes a joke", the context should have implied challenge to Rikkai but whatever.
I never even said Shitenhouji or Seigaku either so you've more or less just compiled your own things in something you'd like to argue about.
Had I known Jirou was the No.2 of Hyoutei back at Nationals, I would sure as hell have known that Hyoutei's dreams of winningthe Nationals were a sheer joke.
Marui was more like Rikkai's No. 4 at the start of PoT as he plays singles in the databook at times. Akaya and Niou bump him down to No. 6 over time, however. Yagyuu comes in at No. 7 and Jackal rounds off the club as No. 8.
When was Marui ever better than Kirihara?
Yagyuu played Singles in the Nationals Semifinals. In fact, all Rikkai players have been in Singles over the time period so that doesn't show much.
Also, what we've seen from them implies Marui isn't stronger than Yagyuu.
In Singles tell me how Marui beats the Laser combo? Marui cannot attack with WC. If he gets lobbed its pretty much over.
(This is wayy off-topic so we'll take this to the Discussion thread).