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My turn.
I will start my argument by saying if anybody is beating Oni in this series, it is Sanada.
Black Aura is pure speculation? Excuse me? SO IS ONI. When have we ever actually seen a full match from Oni against someone who isn't a low tier character like Momo? Oh that's right, the day after never. Any of the top MSers would have defeated Momo 6-0 so that is no feat, nor does it give us any information about Oni. What next? We are shown that Oni beat Kintarou. Wow! so did Yukimura! And when Yukimura did it, we still knew nothing about him even after their match. Next...we don't even see Oni win against court 3. Next...we don't even see Oni beat Kaji. Sounds to me you all know as much about Oni as you do about Black Aura, which is next to nothing. I don't want to hear that "speculation" bullcrap from you people, when this whole series is speculation.
That said, it would be ABSURD to suggest Black Aura does not raise Sanada's ability level/stats when not only does EVERY SINGLE AURA do that, but Sanada's shot was obviously faster during that moment. Not only that, but why the hell would Konomi reveal a "NEW" aura and have it not effect Sanada's ability level? "Ohai, this is the greatest new technique thus far called black aura which does not make Sanada any better than he was prior to using it eventhoughhewasabletoscoreapointagainstyukimurawhenhecouldn'tbefore." Suggesting Sanada's stats did not increase with BA would be absolutely ridiculous and it would contradict every single literary move Konomi has ever done with this story. That was just flat-out incorrect.
Let me clear this up for the willfully ignorant or those in denial:
The entire purpose for Konomi showing us Black Aura to begin with, was to show a hidden potential within Sanada's character. A "potential" that is greater than Yukimura. If you didn't get that from that one point he took in the tiebreak match, you missed the point ENTIRELY. Sanada coming back from the mountains training and briefly showing BA to the noobs was to tell us, the reader, that he has unlocked that hidden potential. I'm sorry, but that's just a fact of the storytelling. The thing we are supposed to assume about Sanada is that guy who took that one point from Yukimura is now the standard. Sanada has raised the bar, and he is no longer that same Sanada who played Yukimura.
As far as this story goes, Oni is not going to "improve." He is a stepping stone character that a chosen middle-schooler needs to climb over. This is true because we have yet to see the fullness of Oni. We HAVE seen the fullness of Sanada, and he evolved. We have yet to see the fullness of this evolution (Black aura), which means if Sanada were to play Oni, it would be shown. Oni simply would not defeat Black Aura. When push comes to shove, Sanada will win this no matter what. If Konomi did this match, he would have to show both the extent of Oni's power and the extent of Sanada's power in the SAME MATCH. If Konomi had to choose between giving a "pass" to Sanada or Oni, he is going with the former. Sorry, Sanada did not improve just to be defeated the very second he shows it. That makes Black Aura an anticlimatic build, which is contrary to Konomi's writing style. This series is about the evolution of middle schoolers, not high schoolers.
Sanada wins 7-5
I will start my argument by saying if anybody is beating Oni in this series, it is Sanada.
Black Aura is pure speculation? Excuse me? SO IS ONI. When have we ever actually seen a full match from Oni against someone who isn't a low tier character like Momo? Oh that's right, the day after never. Any of the top MSers would have defeated Momo 6-0 so that is no feat, nor does it give us any information about Oni. What next? We are shown that Oni beat Kintarou. Wow! so did Yukimura! And when Yukimura did it, we still knew nothing about him even after their match. Next...we don't even see Oni win against court 3. Next...we don't even see Oni beat Kaji. Sounds to me you all know as much about Oni as you do about Black Aura, which is next to nothing. I don't want to hear that "speculation" bullcrap from you people, when this whole series is speculation.
That said, it would be ABSURD to suggest Black Aura does not raise Sanada's ability level/stats when not only does EVERY SINGLE AURA do that, but Sanada's shot was obviously faster during that moment. Not only that, but why the hell would Konomi reveal a "NEW" aura and have it not effect Sanada's ability level? "Ohai, this is the greatest new technique thus far called black aura which does not make Sanada any better than he was prior to using it eventhoughhewasabletoscoreapointagainstyukimurawhenhecouldn'tbefore." Suggesting Sanada's stats did not increase with BA would be absolutely ridiculous and it would contradict every single literary move Konomi has ever done with this story. That was just flat-out incorrect.
Let me clear this up for the willfully ignorant or those in denial:
The entire purpose for Konomi showing us Black Aura to begin with, was to show a hidden potential within Sanada's character. A "potential" that is greater than Yukimura. If you didn't get that from that one point he took in the tiebreak match, you missed the point ENTIRELY. Sanada coming back from the mountains training and briefly showing BA to the noobs was to tell us, the reader, that he has unlocked that hidden potential. I'm sorry, but that's just a fact of the storytelling. The thing we are supposed to assume about Sanada is that guy who took that one point from Yukimura is now the standard. Sanada has raised the bar, and he is no longer that same Sanada who played Yukimura.
As far as this story goes, Oni is not going to "improve." He is a stepping stone character that a chosen middle-schooler needs to climb over. This is true because we have yet to see the fullness of Oni. We HAVE seen the fullness of Sanada, and he evolved. We have yet to see the fullness of this evolution (Black aura), which means if Sanada were to play Oni, it would be shown. Oni simply would not defeat Black Aura. When push comes to shove, Sanada will win this no matter what. If Konomi did this match, he would have to show both the extent of Oni's power and the extent of Sanada's power in the SAME MATCH. If Konomi had to choose between giving a "pass" to Sanada or Oni, he is going with the former. Sorry, Sanada did not improve just to be defeated the very second he shows it. That makes Black Aura an anticlimatic build, which is contrary to Konomi's writing style. This series is about the evolution of middle schoolers, not high schoolers.
Sanada wins 7-5
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