Match Switzerland VS France (U17 WC)

[mathematicianrcg]

SWITZERLAND VS FRANCE

D2: PETER/HENRI VS TIMOTHE/TRISTAN

D1: RANDY/ALBERT VS JONATHAN/EDGARD

S2:TATSUTA VS LUDOVIC

S1:AMADEUS VS CAMUS

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Who do you think will win in this matchup? Lets ignore S3 cause of lack of players on both sides.

For me, Switzerland will win most of the time.

Peter/Henri probably dominates. ( I feel like Peter is the 3rd Best Player in Swiss)

Randy/Albert Power is too much. Not Even Duke and Gin can compete.

Now, the interesting part.

Do you think Tatsuta is stronger than Ludovic. Cause the Former is said to rival Amadeus Strength.

And Finally Amadeus VS Camus. Who do you think will win between the two?

PS: Ofc, mostly speculation and prediction.

 

[Hardy]

I'd invert D1 and D2 tbh but here we go:

When does this happen?

Imo:

D2: Henri is identified as the weak link like Shiraishi was and France manages to win (but not by a huge margin).
D1: Power doubles is too much and win with comfort.
S3: The ninja wins 7-6 6-0 after his jutsu procs
S2: Tatsuta should be slightly weaker than Amadeus, a pro, so odds are he wins this. If this match is with current Ludovic that has access to Kijin then idk, could be close.
S1: Amadeus just recently turned a pro and cannot possibly score against Volk whereas Camus' revolution is feared in QP's report. I give Camus the edge (sth like 6-4 6-4).

France 3-2

 

[mathematicianrcg]

I'd invert D1 and D2 tbh but here we go:

When does this happen?

Imo:

D2: Henri is identified as the weak link like Shiraishi was and France manages to win (but not by a huge margin).
D1: Power doubles is too much and win with comfort.
S3: The ninja wins 7-6 6-0 after his jutsu procs
S2: Tatsuta should be slightly weaker than Amadeus, a pro, so odds are he wins this. If this match is with current Ludovic that has access to Kijin then idk, could be close.
S1: Amadeus just recently turned a pro and cannot possibly score against Volk whereas Camus' revolution is feared in QP's report. I give Camus the edge (sth like 6-4 6-4).

France 3-2

Interesting.

You think Henri is Weak or Weak Link? And you think Peter/Henri will lose to Tristan/Timote (or Edgar/Jonathan if u inverse it?)

Wow. Randy and Albert has such high reputation here in this forum. I never saw them being in losing side in most hypotheticals here. Hehe. I guess 6-1ing Duke/Ishida and 6-0ing USA top(?) msers are huge feats. But I get it, their power is probably same level if not better/stronger than Duke. Who knows if one of them has Kijin too.

Osval has no opponent unfortunately. Switzerland only have 6 known Members. so I kinda ignore him. Lol

Yeah, I think Tatsuta should be stronger than Ludovic too, or else it will mean the Prince is stronger than Amadeus which is I highly doubt.

Now, for main event.

Amadeus VS Camus. Kinda hard cause we dont know Camus full capabilities aside from his revolution. This will be a close battle. Idk who will win tbh. It is probably 50-50 like what happpened to Amadeus VS Ralph.

 

[Hardy]

Interesting.

You think Henri is Weak or Weak Link? And you think Peter/Henri will lose to Tristan/Timote (or Edgar/Jonathan if u inverse it?)

Wow. Randy and Albert has such high reputation here in this forum. I never saw them being in losing side in most hypotheticals here. Hehe. I guess 6-1ing Duke/Ishida and 6-0ing USA top(?) msers are huge feats. But I get it, their power is probably same level if not better/stronger than Duke. Who knows if one of them has Kijin too.

Osval has no opponent unfortunately. Switzerland only have 6 known Members. so I kinda ignore him. Lol

Yeah, I think Tatsuta should be stronger than Ludovic too, or else it will mean the Prince is stronger than Amadeus which is I highly doubt.

Now, for main event.

Amadeus VS Camus. Kinda hard cause we dont know Camus full capabilities aside from his revolution. This will be a close battle. Idk who will win tbh. It is probably 50-50 like what happpened to Amadeus VS Ralph.

It was said Peter (the doubles specialist) was guiding that pair, so I think you have a situation like Yanagi-Kirihara or early Ohmagari-Kin (or even Oishi-Kikumaru before they got synchro) where, the moment the doubles specialist loses a tiny bit of control, the other team manages to exploit the more simple minded player. I don't think Henri is weak, he'd probably just be the weakest player among those 4 (even more so in doubles).

It's really hard to do anything with Randy and Albert because they are just a... bulldozer. Kinda lame, really. Honestly my suggestion of inverting the doubles would make this even worse for France because Shiraishi identified Power as the weakness in the handsome doubles.

I'm kinda very high on Osval, considering all other French reps got defeated by his emotional techniques. I think he could even beat Henri. Switzerland would need a player with very high mental or someone with a Closed Heart / In equivalent.

Since you pointed it out the other day, I really think Tatsuta is a HSer now, lol. Just annoys me greatly that he didn't play against Hopkins, either way.

Amadeus vs Ralph is kind of not 50/50 since Ralph's ability kinda directly counters Amadeus' aggressive playstyle, he can negate whichever way Amadeus manages to score. I guess it's a different story if it's a 1 set match.

Now I've gone back and checked A LOT and I cannot find where is it stated that Camus is a pro. Do you remember in what chapter do the "shadows" of the characters appear? In 23.5 only the 3 Germans and Amadeus are listed as pros.

 

[kaibaman]

It was said Peter (the doubles specialist) was guiding that pair, so I think you have a situation like Yanagi-Kirihara or early Ohmagari-Kin (or even Oishi-Kikumaru before they got synchro) where, the moment the doubles specialist loses a tiny bit of control, the other team manages to exploit the more simple minded player. I don't think Henri is weak, he'd probably just be the weakest player among those 4 (even more so in doubles).

It's really hard to do anything with Randy and Albert because they are just a... bulldozer. Kinda lame, really. Honestly my suggestion of inverting the doubles would make this even worse for France because Shiraishi identified Power as the weakness in the handsome doubles.

I'm kinda very high on Osval, considering all other French reps got defeated by his emotional techniques. I think he could even beat Henri. Switzerland would need a player with very high mental or someone with a Closed Heart / In equivalent.

Since you pointed it out the other day, I really think Tatsuta is a HSer now, lol. Just annoys me greatly that he didn't play against Hopkins, either way.

Amadeus vs Ralph is kind of not 50/50 since Ralph's ability kinda directly counters Amadeus' aggressive playstyle, he can negate whichever way Amadeus manages to score. I guess it's a different story if it's a 1 set match.

Now I've gone back and checked A LOT and I cannot find where is it stated that Camus is a pro. Do you remember in what chapter do the "shadows" of the characters appear? In 23.5 only the 3 Germans and Amadeus are listed as pros.

the "shadows" appear chapter 173

 

[mathematicianrcg]

It was said Peter (the doubles specialist) was guiding that pair, so I think you have a situation like Yanagi-Kirihara or early Ohmagari-Kin (or even Oishi-Kikumaru before they got synchro) where, the moment the doubles specialist loses a tiny bit of control, the other team manages to exploit the more simple minded player. I don't think Henri is weak, he'd probably just be the weakest player among those 4 (even more so in doubles).

It's really hard to do anything with Randy and Albert because they are just a... bulldozer. Kinda lame, really. Honestly my suggestion of inverting the doubles would make this even worse for France because Shiraishi identified Power as the weakness in the handsome doubles.

I'm kinda very high on Osval, considering all other French reps got defeated by his emotional techniques. I think he could even beat Henri. Switzerland would need a player with very high mental or someone with a Closed Heart / In equivalent.

Since you pointed it out the other day, I really think Tatsuta is a HSer now, lol. Just annoys me greatly that he didn't play against Hopkins, either way.

Amadeus vs Ralph is kind of not 50/50 since Ralph's ability kinda directly counters Amadeus' aggressive playstyle, he can negate whichever way Amadeus manages to score. I guess it's a different story if it's a 1 set match.

Now I've gone back and checked A LOT and I cannot find where is it stated that Camus is a pro. Do you remember in what chapter do the "shadows" of the characters appear? In 23.5 only the 3 Germans and Amadeus are listed as pros.

I see. Henri is called noble genius youth. But maybe he is a bit raw.

Lol. I wonder if Albert (I think he is the stronger among the 2) can beat Duke in Singles.

It's a shame that there are no Swiss MSer aside from Henri. Though, Tatsuta might. But according to wiki, He is a Hser.Maybe Inaccurate though


I mean. In Chapter of the "shadows". Medanore was not mentioned to be a pro too. Until Chapter 290, where it revealed that he is a Pro alongside his Full Name of Antonio De Medanore.

 

[Hardy]

I see. Henri is called noble genius youth. But maybe he is a bit raw.

Lol. I wonder if Albert (I think he is the stronger among the 2) can beat Duke in Singles.

It's a shame that there are no Swiss MSer aside from Henri. Though, Tatsuta might. But according to wiki, He is a Hser.Maybe Inaccurate though


I mean. In Chapter of the "shadows". Medanore was not mentioned to be a pro too. Until Chapter 290, where it revealed that he is a Pro alongside his Full Name of Antoni De Medanore.

I think it's implied Pug lost to Fed and that's why he joined Switzerland. Duke used to be France's ace and has a Kijin I don't see him losing.

I would not trust the wiki.

Right but it's directly said he could surprass Volk so we have some sort of power scaling. I guess we do know the coaches only trusted Byoudouin (and maybe Oni) to play against Camus so he should be as good or better than say Bismarck who is pro level and Germany's No 2.

 

[RadicalEdward]

Either Ludovic or Camus take a match. Swiss win the rest.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Since you pointed it out the other day, I really think Tatsuta is a HSer now, lol. Just annoys me greatly that he didn't play against Hopkins, either way.

Wait. If Tatsuta is in the Lineup VS USA. Then he should be a Mser. Cause of the 3 Msers Minimum Rule.

Swiss used Amadeus, Peter, Randy, and Albert. (4 HSERS). Meaning 3 remaining spots goes to Henri and other two Swiss Mser. (Might be Tatsuta is one)

If Tatsuta is really a Hser though. Then, it simply means he is not lined up against USA at all. And maybe he is being reserved by Switzerland, VS Spain in Semis. (Though it kinda backfired on them)

PS: 3 MSERS rule still implemented in Semis and Finals. Konomi even force Ryoga to be Mser just to satisfy that rule.lol

 

[Hardy]

Wait. If Tatsuta is in the Lineup VS USA. Then he should be a Mser. Cause of the 3 Msers Minimum Rule.

Swiss used Amadeus, Peter, Randy, and Albert. (4 HSERS). Meaning 3 remaining spots goes to Henri and other two Swiss Mser. (Might be Tatsuta is one)

If Tatsuta is really a Hser though. Then, it simply means he is not lined up against USA at all. And maybe he is being reserved by Switzerland, VS Spain in Semis. (Though it kinda backfired on them)

PS: 3 MSERS rule still implemented in Semis and Finals. Konomi even force Ryoga to be Mser just to satisfy that rule.lol

Yes.

But we don't know who played D2 vs USA in 267. In fact the guy's haircut isn't even the same as Kuraraga's. I think it's just a random mser in the second row of the team in 271.

I really think he didn’t play at all and instead Switzerland went with Peter for whatever reason (probably just Konomi using a known player that isn't fanbook locked).

 

[Tavore]

I'm gonna go with Switzerland

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Yes.

But we don't know who played D2 vs USA in 267. In fact the guy's haircut isn't even the same as Kuraraga's. I think it's just a random mser in the second row of the team in 271.

I really think he didn’t play at all and instead Switzerland went with Peter for whatever reason (probably just Konomi using a known player that isn't fanbook locked).

I realized Swiss have no choice but to choose between Tatsuta and Peter. If Tatsuta is really a Hser.

There are only 4 HS Spots, the other 3 spots belong to Mserd.

So Amadeus is a lock.

Now, Albert and Randy I think they cant afford to split them up. So they decided to use them both in doubles. (Maybe, they are not that good in Singles?)

Now, the last spot is between Peter and Tatsuta.

My Hunch is that they are alternating Peter and Tatsuta. Probably, they planned to reserve Tatsuta for the Spain Semis Match. Because Spain is higher ranked than USA.

I didnt understand Switzerland's strategy of splitting up Henri and Peter though. They could have. probably beat Dodo/Mser in D2.

PS: Now, there is a part of me that Konomi just doesnt want to create and design more USA and Swiss Characters. Lmao.