Summer The Baseball Thread

[Kaiten]

Besides Clemons, what "potential" HOF pitchers have been connected to steroids? Not your suspicions, but actual public allegations. Shilling has been connected to steroids, but he is a borderline HOF'er at best. I can dig suspecting certain players based on performance spikes, body mass change, etc. Brady Anderson suddenly hitting 50 home runs was suspicious. Barry Bonds massive head was suspicious. ARod turning up on all those Biogenensis documents was suspicious. But this whole "everyone is guilty until proven innocent, but there is no way to prove anyone innocent" dance gets really old. Steroids are a problem, but it has gotten to the point where media and fan suspicion has become Kafka-esque paranoia.

 

[FrostyMouse]

Pettite used PEDs. Mussina's probably not a HoFer, but he used PEDs, iirc.

I do wonder heavily about Toronto's Bautista.

 

[xi0]

Besides Clemons, what "potential" HOF pitchers have been connected to steroids? Not your suspicions, but actual public allegations. Shilling has been connected to steroids, but he is a borderline HOF'er at best. I can dig suspecting certain players based on performance spikes, body mass change, etc. Brady Anderson suddenly hitting 50 home runs was suspicious. Barry Bonds massive head was suspicious. ARod turning up on all those Biogenensis documents was suspicious. But this whole "everyone is guilty until proven innocent, but there is no way to prove anyone innocent" dance gets really old. Steroids are a problem, but it has gotten to the point where media and fan suspicion has become Kafka-esque paranoia.

What does HoF consideration have to do with any of this? I'm merely saying that the amount of pitchers suspended for PEDs is disproportionate to what you'd expect. Out of the 30 major leaguers suspended at least once for positive tests, 14 were/are pitchers. It goes against what you'd think PEDs are generally used for, liked I said, power hitting. The numbers are sort of mirrored among minor leaguers with MLB experience - 22 out of 47 are pitchers. People generally look to these guys with inflated power numbers, when in reality, the people throwing the ball to them should be viewed with just as much suspicion.

The paranoia isn't the media's fault, it's MLB's fault. But they can't protect their brand from everything, if people are careful enough, they'll never get caught. Millions of dollars are at stake.

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[Kaiten]

That balk was bullshit. Should have been an 8 inning shutout. A masterpiece by Strasburg nevertheless.

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Nothing feels more satisfying than taking a series from the Phillies. I don't care how mediocre they have become, I still hate them.

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Tehran walked Ike Davis. Ike Davis should never be walked. He's currently on a 2-44 streak.

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Ike Davis clutch 2 RBI single

Gave the Mets a 2 run lead, bottom of the eighth.

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An interesting article about Walter Johnson's (bizarre) throwing motion http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/e...-incredible-throwing-motion-of-walter-johnson

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Anthony Rendon was promoted to AAA last night. AAA is not somewhere top prospects are meant to stay for long, unless they are blocked. Top prospects are sent to AAA for polishing, final preparations before recalling them to the majors. Should be interesting to see how much second base (he came up as a third baseman) he plays, there is a good chance they are prepping him to replace Danny Espinosa (.164/.195/.283).

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Tommy John surgery for Dylan Bundy. Good thing he's only 20.

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Heads have started to role, Braun suspended for the rest fo the season. In exchange for the reduced suspension, he has waived his right to appeal.

 

[Kaiten]

Kozma

Did this boob really beat us?

 

[xi0]

https://twitter.com/FeinsandNYDN/status/405742246357925888

Had to smile when I read this

 

[Kaiten]

I wonder if Moose will make the Hall of Fame. Seems like a borderline candidate to me. A case could be made for, a case could be made against. If he does, I don't think it will be this year. This is a pretty good ballot. Frank Thomas, Tom Glavine, and Greg Maddux definitely get in this year. I think Biggio gets in this year too. Mike Piazza could make it this year, but I don't think so.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof_2014.shtml

 

[xi0]

I don't know, but he would be in my Hall of Fame if it was by my standards.

 

[Kaiten]

The Yankees are overspending on moderately talented veterans again. Such a nostalgic feeling.

 

[Kaiten]

It's finally been put out of it's misery. Thank fucking god. Nothing against the Orioles announcers, they are very good, but the split booth got annoying after a while. I want to hear our guys talk about our team.

Only about a month until opening day

 

[Kaiten]

OMG CC Sabathia is done. Fastball topping out at 88mph, gave up 6 runs in 2 innings to the Astros.

Yankees vs. Astros is just weird. Still doesn't feel right. If I could get used to Brewers in the NL, I guess I can get used to 'Stros in the AL.

 

[FrostyMouse]

OMG CC Sabathia is done. Fastball topping out at 88mph, gave up 6 runs in 2 innings to the Astros.

Yankees vs. Astros is just weird. Still doesn't feel right. If I could get used to Brewers in the NL, I guess I can get used to 'Stros in the AL.

Yeah, I was listening on the way home from class just now. CC's just done.

In terms of the Brewers, I just want them to shrivel up and die, just so that I could see the reaction on Bud Selig's face.

I haven't been paying attention to preseason. Are they doing that whole big conference thing this year, or is it still divisions? I assumed it was still divisions within a league, as I'm sure I would've heard something.

 

[xi0]

Don Baylor.........WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?!

Holy shit, someone needs to destroy that tape...

 

[Kaiten]

Don Baylor.........WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?!

Holy shit, someone needs to destroy that tape...

How the hell does that even happen? Only in baseball.

 

[xi0]

My Dad has an artificial hip and it seems like the type of thing that would happen if an implant fails, but he went through surgery and they still maintain it's a broken leg and he got 5 screws in it to boot. It's crazy, never seen anything like it.

 

[FrostyMouse]

How does that happen? It just breaks.

 

[xi0]

Seems like a bone in his thigh, near the hip. It looks almost like a hip dislocation. It was probably compromised already and just a freak thing...

 

[Kaiten]

Your 2014 New York Mets

 

[Kaiten]

Holy fuck...

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Best thing about following the NL is not having to hear about Jeter.

 

[Kaiten]

BELTWAY BASEBALL!