Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...
It's not 'her version' - it's the knowledge she was told by someone/something old enough to know, thus qualified to speak on the matter (or what he wanted her to know of it). Ancient knowledge that has been lost. The Acrinak just decided to humor itself and spread misinformation to his host for shits and giggles? Yes, it's possible he was just telling her a story. But, it's not like they have a good relationship where he just likes to entertain her. She even remarks about their lack of communication.
Yas has no way to gauge the truth of her words or not. He's a modern creature, he has no ancient knowledge like NN does, or could have (via Acrinak). He's incredulous because in his *opinion* that sounds like a fairy tale. That doesn't make it one. NN, via having her mind linked to Acrinak, has first-hand knowledge of that time-period, or at least what he tells her of it/allows her to see. Yas does not. He simply discards it because it sounds fantastical.
And there are those that believe both are true. But, I'd be more inclined to believe someone verifiably inhabited by an ancient nephilim who was around for the early days of creation (if such a thing/circumstance existed) rather than a modern atheist that just disregards the story because of feels. To try and make a apt analogy.
NN has a basis for her story though. Yas doesn't. That's a big difference; their statements as a matter of opinion aren't equally valid in that regard.
It would seem really weird to have a literal ancient (that would know better) show up in the story with just some throwaway line that wasn't even remotely true, or a hint of sorts. SIU, to me, is fleshing out the ancient lore of the tower here.
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I could be connecting dots that need not be connected, but IMO the author has been dropping hints to a bigger picture, and they are all interrelated.
Tower of God has a lot of sci fi elements (holograms, spaceships ....), rather than just pure fantasy. I imagine that the Tower is created by an advanced race (perhaps aliens even), and the mechanical creatures are robots left by the creators to maintain or pursue some kind of goal (like creating new life?).
Like I said above, perhaps an advanced race created those robots.
I agree, and thus I think it's possible (probable even) the Workshop, having a high probability of existing outside the tower, is a part of that race, or their acolytes of sorts, or their descendants, or at the very least studying that race from in and outside the tower.
Yes. For instance, Cat Tower has its own admin/guardian (you also seem to believe those are one in the same, no?). This means it has complete control of contracts and shinsoo inside Cat Tower, which is why the allies could rely on Yas not lying about the rules. Same as the Rice Pot. In this way they are pocket dimensions, operating as mini-floors outside the control of the floor admin of the floor they are in. I think that is what Baam was in as well, and I think that's what's going on with Karaka's so-called Heart. Pocket dimensions = pocket floors, with pocket admin. At least that's my take. I've been known to be wrong, just ask around.
If we agree here, it sure seems like he has left a lot of room for interpretation. He hints they're ancient - just how ancient? He hints they are said to maybe operate outside the tower - is that true and what does it look like if so? He hints that they intend to harness creation - so could that be what a tower is?
Seems to be big hints that I don't see why he'd make arbitrary references to if they didn't allude to a bigger picture.
Workshop have lots of secret and is old, but is it as old as Tower? I don't know, but as they are studying the Tower, rather having direct access to plans/docs of it, it seems to me the Tower is precursor to the Workshop at least. Or the Tower was created unbeknownst to the outside Workshop, and they sent people to study it (Tower's Workshop, though that begs the question how do they communicate, Tower's Workshop has been there for several tens of millennia at least, I imagine the outside Workshop would send more people if they have no info after a while). Either way, they don't sound to have created the Tower or the Administrators.
I guess we simply can't say though. 'How old?' indeed. Why reference how ancient they are if there's no relevance to the story? Or their ability, presumably, to operate also outside the tower.
The Workshop's creed is to find out about all creation in the world, study it, be able to recreate it, and thus control all creation.
The Tower exists in the world. It is not the world in of itself.
What a better HINT that the tower is thus an attempt at creation (one of many - we know there are more towers)? One with an intended goal, which just so happens to coincide with GongBang's work/creed?
If the tower is a probable creation, and the workshop seeks to be the ultimate creators........... still no?
Put it this way - admin are SUPPOSED to be gods of their floors, and completely incapable of having their shinsoo snatched from them there, much less dying. Yet we see Enryu do it with ease.
This means certain elements of the story that are thought of as cemented in stone have the possibility of turning out to be falsehoods. Anything is possible. Now, this isn't even baseless in a universe of possibilities - because of hints like what the Acrinak said recently, among other things listed above.
Well, I blame SIU and a story that takes decades to tell. In the meantime, I do give him props for what I perceive as a breadcrumb trail....
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Oh, and Macseth has made artificial, mechanical creations qualified as life, in a tower that first had life of a mechanical, artificial variety (if Acrinak wasn't lying).
Well you’re wrong Mirotic and GoG are artificial beings, made only to act like administrators! And both are now destroyed along with the HT! I don’t imagine any Thryssas will come from GoG or Mirotic’s corpse
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The fact that you think the floor administrator is comparable to GoG and Mirotic is outright laughable! The floor administrator would annihilate then both LOL
Well you’re wrong Mirotic and GoG are artificial beings, made only to act like administrators! And both are now destroyed along with the HT! I don’t imagine any Thryssas will come from GoG or Mirotic’s corpse
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The fact that you think the floor administrator is comparable to GoG and Mirotic is outright laughable! The floor administrator would annihilate then both LOL
The red and blue thrysas are not shineuh. They are, to the best of our knowledge, fragments from administrators (which leaves the blue thrysa as one of the biggest WTFs in the series). Administrators are not shineuh. Shineuh, divine fish, are simply the residents of the shinsoo (divine water) that is managed by administrators. Not once in the series have thrysas or administrators been refered to as shineuh.
Hell train guardians are obviously pretty distinct from floor administrators... Not sure what this is about or if there even is a disagreement there.
But you know its obvious that final bosses are the workshop guys not zahard...
Because zahard and FH changed after the revolution
When they get to know their real self BS so the guardian was set up there to that purpose before the started climbing is like they was waiting for them..
So zahard saw something in the rice pot that tell him all he has to do to become king..
I possible that all he saw was something predetermined by the workshop to turned the story like this.. so he just following a false destiny..
This disagreement, as it has been said several times on this page already, is in that the early translations used 'guardian' and 'admin' interchangeably.
IS obviously going to be another flashback chapter unfortunately...i've been hoping for flashback to end a few chapters ago and it never did. Jinsung dies too, there is no way he can hold off long enough against 2 guys
On another hand, the Nest war has been going TOO well for Baam, that it's kind unbelievable there's few and unimportant death from his side (I think only that twin girl died?), I'm expecting some character death to happen. Nest war should have been difficult, but Zahard's side are mostly taking L and Baam's side pretty much scot free
A master protecc'ing student is an obvious choice. That's Jinsung or EVK. EVK is too valuable unless she dies where the ancient can warp to Baam or someone in his crew like the Acrinak. Which would mean they are in the same proximity and still at risk after she dies...
More importantly according to yas in the flashback 3 fangs can counter even traumerei's anima power. So 3 fang yama would be a hard counter to traumerei.
Essentially sealin his anima power. Since anytime traumerei brings out a beast yama can just roar and it would no longer be under his control.
Welp, jinsung isn't the point of the war. He is fug's objective. Zahard's army is just defending their position from multiple slayers and their armies.
- Kallavan failed at the FS
- Yas didn't complete his task (at least in a timely manner) at the Wall
- It seems the new 4th didn't succeed either
- The fifth division is almost completely done with
Z forces could take Jinsung's head and STILL lose the battle/war. In failing to stop the events at the Nest, in failing to secure the irregular (Baam), in failing to finish off the FUG forces gathered here.
As stated above, Jinsung is the bait, not the objective.
- Kallavan failed at the FS
- Yas didn't complete his task (at least in a timely manner) at the Wall
- It seems the new 4th didn't succeed either
- The fifth division is almost completely done with
Z forces could take Jinsung's head and STILL lose the battle/war. In failing to stop the events at the Nest, in failing to secure the irregular (Baam), in failing to finish off the FUG forces gathered here.
As stated above, Jinsung is the bait, not the objective.
IMO, it's already egg on Z's face. He didn't stop the events at the wall, his forces couldn't keep FUG from breaking barrier after barrier, Baam will almost certainly escape... I mean, without Rei and new LPB forces arrival, it's already a clusterfuck. Not sure Mas could have kept it together, but it's almost as if she doesn't mind (ask Cin about her goals). It also looks like Kallavan has other interests, as does Yas, as does Lyb (every divco is defeated or mitigated already). They don't exactly come across as a cohesive force working towards the same goal at all.
Ethan not even baam and 10 yamas could do shit to traumerei LPB right now the goal is to escape from him not beeat him here, is not the time.. IMO
welcome to the group btw
You are facing one of the slayer from the complaining group they are the true evil here so read carefully because they got answers..
IMO, it's already egg on Z's face. He didn't stop the events at the wall, his forces couldn't keep FUG from breaking barrier after barrier, Baam will almost certainly escape... I mean, without Rei and new LPB forces arrival, it's already a clusterfuck. Not sure Mas could have kept it together, but it's almost as if she doesn't mind (ask Cin about her goals). It also looks like Kallavan has other interests, as does Yas, as does Lyb (every divco is defeated or mitigated already). They don't exactly come across as a cohesive force working towards the same goal at all.
Ethan not even baam and 10 yamas could do shit to traumerei LPB right now the goal is to escape from him not beeat him here, is not the time.. IMO
welcome to the group btw
You are facing one of the slayer from the complaining group they are the true evil here so read carefully because they got answers..
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