Chapter Tower of God Chapter 593 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

hope you enjoy it turtles

 

[King Dryst]

Baam willint to shoo off Endorsi ? Are we reading the same manhwa ?

In this case, yes. He was fully intending to use Ren as a guinea pig in a situation that didn't really call for that kind of leisurely behavior, and he knew Androssi would bitch about the subject if she were there to see him doing it. So he came up with some bullshit to get her to leave, and spare his eardrums and patience. Plus keeping her there would have given Ren an opening to attempt to use her in a hostage gambit, and he didn't want to deal with that either.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

I would say Ren was fodderized by base Baam honestly, even without access to shinsu Baam could easily tank every attack Ren threw at him.

 

[Sanity Check]

Connecting dots.

1. Lobadon controls plants

2. The place Rachel wants Hwa Ryun to take her to is called "The Sprout".

Lobadon is joining the party~

 

[TudyMNX]

How come everyone Rachel recruits have the same issues and goals - White, Beliere, Kirin

We have FUG at home
Walmart slayers
Though,i wouldn't be surprised if this all ends up in some kind of group battle after both bam and reachel assemble their own version of avengers

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Baam willint to shoo off Endorsi ? Are we reading the same manhwa ?

Uh, Androssi was nothing but a hindrance to Baam and judging by her statements, it is very clear that she is unaware of Baams full capacity. Baam wanted to get her out of the way and also avoid revealing his full powers

-Wrong, Baam was telling Endorsi that a fight with Ren could be prolonged since he is fighting a monster like him. This statement alone proves that base Baaù is countless tiers beneath a BH (no way a BH is this weak).

His words to Ren shortly after paint a different picture.

-Baam said that Ren is the perfect oponent to test his powers. Considering how weak and irrelevant Rankers like that are in super-HR battlefields, it would come to sens that someone of a BH-tier shouldn't even think of considering such a weakling as competent test subject. Wether there're tricky skills or not is compeltely irrelevant due to the insanely massive gap in raw stats.

I don't understand how you came up with such a conclusion lol. Are you saying it's impossible for a BH to control their power output against a ranker? Even Urek was able to do so against regular tier Beam.

In the fight against Ren, Baam was trying to restrict Levi's power output to keep it from overflowing like it did previously. He was already strong enough to unintentionally curb stomp Holan who should be well above Ren

-He said he was willing to end Ren in one shot, then he really tried but couldn't (as a matter of fact, a BH would've fodderized dozens at the same time while barely trying).

And he said that only after he had spent ample time playing around with Ren and was going to do so but was already under the influence of Rings ability.
It's not too different from how he lost to White.

 

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And he only said that after he had spent ample time playing around with Ren and was going to do so but was already under the influence of Rings ability.
It's not too different from how he lost to White.

Wehther there's a ring influence or not, if base Baam was nearly as strong as a BH, he should've fodderized Ren before he even knows what happened to him due to the sheer gap in terms of raw stats. That's more than enough to say that base Baam is countless tiers beneath BHs.
Otherwise it would imply that a single foot soldier with some tricky abilities should make things hard for a BH level foe and that's ridiculous.

just out of curiosity, how do you think base Baam, that you consider BH level, would've handled it if 100+ foot solider Rens jumped at him ?

 

[Demonspeed]

This chapter is the definition of average.

At least we can move on to better things.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Wehther there's a ring influence or not, if base Baam was nearly as strong as a BH, he should've fodderized Ren before he even knows what happened to him due to the sheer gap in terms of raw stats. That's more than enough to say that base Baam is countless tiers beneath BHs.
Or are you implying that a single foot soldier can make things hard for a BH level foe just because he has a tricky ability ?

If Baam with all his absorption abilities and shinwonryu is susceptible to such a Hax ability then I would expect no less in the case of a BH. It is simply up to the BH to not get caught in such an attack.

Once again it's not too different from how White was overall weaker than Baam yet could give any tower born a lot of trouble if they get caught in his spell

 

[hblock]

If Baam with all his absorption abilities and shinwonryu is susceptible to such a Hax ability then I would expect no less in the case of a BH. It is simply up to the BH to not get caught in such an attack.

That's a nonsentical answer. If that was the case, Ren would've been easily a HR. As we know, he isn't even AR despite Z family influence.
If an entry level HR gets trapped, he'd still casually one shot foot solider Ren with a shinsu blast or whather other skill he has since Ren's ability isn't nearly as strong as to make him into a HR.
You didn't answer my other question.

 

[King Dryst]

We have FUG at home
Walmart slayers
Though,i wouldn't be surprised if this all ends up in some kind of group battle after both bam and reachel assemble their own version of avengers

It seems unrealistic that Rachel can 'assemble' anything that Baam can't just extreme neg diff curbstomp. Her team is just Regulars like Akryung and Yura. People like Bellerir and Kirin are not going to fight at her command.

Her MO has always wisely been to avoid any kind of direct confrontation with Baam if/when at all humanly possible, and I don't see that changing.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

That's a nonsentical answer. If that was the case, Ren would've been easily a HR. As we know, he isn't even AR despite Z family influence.

How is it nonsensical lol? Ren still an AR because any competent HR would stomp him long before he can get such opportunity, and we know Baam could have done so considering how the fight with Holan went.

Even if Ren is giving such an opportunity, there's no guarantee that he can eventually take down the opponent as was the case with Baam.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

That's a nonsentical answer. If that was the case, Ren would've been easily a HR. As we know, he isn't even AR despite Z family influence.
If an entry level HR gets trapped, he'd still casually one shot foot solider Ren with a shinsu blast or whather other skill he has since Ren's ability isn't nearly as strong as to make him into a HR.
You didn't answer my other question.

I just want to point out that while Zahard empire officials mostly benefit in the ranking department due to their position, RED's are a special case, their missions aren't tracked on record and therefore usually have a Rank well below their real power lvl (see Lyborick explaining it to Kallavan).

 

[King Dryst]

If an entry level HR gets trapped, he'd still casually one shot foot solider Ren with a shinsu blast or whather other skill he has since Ren's ability isn't nearly as strong as to make him into a HR.

You mean what Baam basically did?

 

[hblock]

You mean what Baam basically did?

Wasn't Baam's shinsu neutralized because it wasn't strong enough ?
Wasn't he screwed without transformation ability ?

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

You didn't answer my other question

What other question?

 

[King Dryst]

This chapter is the definition of average.

At least we can move on to better things.

It properly established a new benchmark for Baam, so it wasn't all a waste. He's now undeniably on par with a High Ranker, all nonsense about 'base' or whatever put to the wayside.

 

[hblock]

How is it nonsensical lol? Ren still an AR because any competent HR would stomp him long before he can get such opportunity, and we know Baam could have done so considering how the fight with Holan went.

Nah, Ren is just a Ranker, where was it ever stated he was an AR ?
SIU furhter added that Lero Ro is stronger than him. That puts higher limits to his strength as a whole.

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What other question?

This one :

just out of curiosity, how do you think base Baam, that you consider BH level, would've handled it if 100+ foot solider Rens jumped at him ?

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Wasn't Baam's shinsu neutralized because it wasn't strong enough ?

You mean the same shinsu that was enough to bring an HR to his knees not long before

 

[King Dryst]

Wasn't Baam's shinsu neutralized because it wasn't strong enough ?
Wasn't he screwed without transformation ability ?

We don't know whether that would have happened to anyone else, but Baam pretty easily wrested control of it back from Ren. It was just another new thing for him to experience, and better that it happened against a bug like Ren as opposed to someone who might be able to actually threaten him under such compromised circumstances.