Discussion What line-ups would be the best for each team?

[Atobe the king]

You have ruined my first topic XD

By attempting to keep the peace i ruined your topic?

Warped logic is warped.

 

[javimgol]

By attempting to keep the peace i ruined your topic?

Warped logic is warped.

No, you not, the other discussion

Edit-Oh okay, you quoted me so i wasn't sure, sorry about that.

 

[Ravsieg]

You guys mind if I bring the original purpose of the thread back?

Not considering counter-picking on here. Then I'd have to pull lists for every single match up. I'm just pulling what I thought would be the best formation in theory.

Seigaku
S3 Fuji
D2 Kaido / Momoshiro
S2 Tezuka
D1 Oishi / Kikumaru
S1 Echizen

Rikkai

S3 Yanagi
D2 Yagyuu / Niou
S2 Sanada
D1 Kuwahara / Marui
S1 Yukimura

Shitenhouji

S3 Chitose
D2 Ishida / Oshitari
S2 Shiraishi
D1 Koharu / Hitoji
S1 Tooyama

Hyotei

S3 Oshitari
D2 Mukahi / Hiyoshi
S2 Ootori
D1 Shishido / Kabaji
S1 Atobe

Fudoumine:

S3 Ibu
D2 Uchimura / Mori
S2 Kamio
D1 Ishida / Sakurai
S1 Tachibana

Higa

S3 Tanishi
D2 Aragaki / Shiranui
S2 Kai
D1 Hirakoba / Chinen
S1 Kite

Yamabuki

S3 Muromachi
D2 Kita / .. forgot his name. Shame.
S2 Sengoku
D1 Minami / Higashikata
S1 Akutsu

Rokkaku

S3 Kisarazu
D2 Aoi / Shudo
S2 Amane
D1 Saeki / Itsuki
S1 Kurobane

St Rudolph

S3 Nomura
D2 Yanagizawa / Kisarazu
S2 Akazawa
D1 Kaneda / Fuji
S1 Mizuki

 

[Atobe the king]

Your line up is cool and logical..but Chotaro in S2? i gotta disagree.

 

[Ravsieg]

Thanks!

My logic for it is simple, actually.

If you notice Silver Pair's matches, all Chotaro service games are won. Opponents exploit Shishido's.

Now, if we follow that logic that a successful Scud Serve is still unreturnable, or at least consistently enough to break his serve game, then it means he would never be broken. It'd either be a Echizen vs Tanishi situation where one mini-break on the tiebreak decides it, or more likely a Ootori vs Shishido one where one break from Ootori decides it. As he is never broken.
It makes things look pretty bright for him.

The possible downside is that it'd give the opponent more time and more chances to get used to the Scud Serve.

 

[Atobe the king]

Thats what i was thinking..he doesn't seem to have much to back up that serve though..

I've wanted to see him in a singles match for quite sometime...shame he and Shishido's match got limited to one page.

 

[Ravsieg]

That's true. If he struggled so much to win a regular point off Shishido it can quite mean he's not that skilled. Even Kikumaru beat Oishi easily.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

If he got to tiebreak though...He would ALWAYS win.

Correct me if I'm wrong(haven't slept in two days)
but in tie breaks, it's two serves then the other player serves right? So...

Ootori vs Who cares
1
2
1
2
3
4
3
4
5
6(match point, Ootori)
5
6
7
8
Game and match: Ootori. 8-6
(Though that's assuming he never double faults.)

So assuming NONE of Ootori's scud serves are returned...Ever, then he has to win the match.

 

[Dansan1]

Nope, he still has to get the mini-break in the tiebreak. Whoever serves first only gets one serve so it's even. So you can never get two points ahead unless you break one of their serves.

 

[Atobe the king]

wait...lets say Ootari serves first

1-0
1-2
3-2
3-4
5-4
5-6

This scenario gives his opponent a set point...Ootari needs at least one point on their serve as well as holding his own.

 

[Ravsieg]

Yep. One mini-break. That's exactly what Echizen did to Tanishi on the Nats. Except this was the opposite, the regular player bringing the big serve down once and making the difference there.