You didn't debunked my arguments because I'm not arguing over minor details. If you don't agree on the powercreep, there's no point in arguing.
I did I debunked how Luffy didn't get much faster unless you agree Big Mom in Wano who can keep up with Kaido is much faster than WCI Boundman which is wrong. Big Mom cannot even blitz Jinbe
Kaido wiped the floor with the Scabbards, which included many commander-level characters, such as Inuarashi, Nekomamushi, Asura Douji, Denjiro, possibly Kawamatsu or Izou. And Kaido didn't even used his hybrid form.
Those characters are much slower than Snakeman. Sulong Neko almost lost to Perospero. Perospero is weaker than even Snack. Scabbards are bums tbh they are bunch of weaklings.
We saw what happened when Kaido fought Snakeman he got blitzed.
This doesn't refute that Kaido will be helpless against Katakuri/Snakeman speed.
Hybrid does not make the user faster I already discussed this.
But Luffy in his base form could keep up with hybrid Kaido.
Because Kaido was not using Thunder Bagua. Non Thunder Bagua Kaido cannot blitz Big Mom who cannot blitz Jinbe. Luffy did not get faster. Kaido just used slower attacks (his non Thunder Bagua attacks). Post Udon Luffy still got blitzed by Thunder Bagua so where's the speed boost/powercreep?
Therefore, Luffy would almost wipe the floor with multiple commander-level characters.
I think base Luffy will get fucked up though. Luffy is weak to cutting attacks. Cutting attacks with ryuo will fuck Luffy up. Luffy can keep up with Kaido because Kaido used blunt attacks his club
WCI Luffy in Snakeman Sure. Those scabbards are weak after all. I don't think any of them can dodge Snakeman attacks when they cannot see even Kaido flying slash.
Kinemon got low diffed by Punk Hazard Law. He was shitting his pants seeing fucking Pica.
Sulong Neko almost lost to Perospero.
Sulong Inu is relative to Sulong Neko.
Ashura is weaker than Sulong Dukes.
Kiku is possibly the weakest scabbard the only one who lost her arm from Kaido cutting attack.
Denjiro cannot see Kaido flying slash while Law casually dodged it
Izo cannot hit Akainu despite Marco and other WBP help. Akainu is much slower than Katakuri with inferior CoO.
And Big Mom, who is more-or-less equal with Kaido, could also do the same.
Yeah Big Mom can solo scabbards.
That makes sense, since when she was going crazy, her crew, Katakuri included, didn't even consider the possibility of stopping her:
Katakuri never said that he cannot stop Big Mom. Katakuri said what would have happened if Big Mom hunger pang was not stopped. Hunger pang Big Mom even almost lost to Jinbe. What can hunger pang Big Mom do to Katakuri? He would treat her much worse than what Jinbe did.
That's how strong a Yonko is compared to their own crew. None of them stands a chance against big Mom
Again Katakuri never said he cannot stop Big Mom. Only said what would have happened if Big Mom hunger pang was not stopped. Hunger pang Big Mom lost to Jinbe.
Perosperos also mentioned the Big Mom Pirates would be done if Big Mom died:
That doesn't support your point at all. That actually supports my point. Katakuri and Big Mom pirates need Big Mom alive. The only way to stop hunger pang Big Mom is by killing her. KOing her won't stop her she will get up. So the only way to stop her is by killing her which they cannot do because it will be the end of Big Mom Pirates.
That's also because of her influence. Just think what would have happened if Alabasta Luffy died. It would be the end of SHP despite Zoro was close to Lufy in strength.
Which again, makes sense, when you compare with what happened to the Whitebeard Pirates without their captain.
Because Whitebeard Pirates are bums lmao
Jozu lost to Doflamingo. Doflamingo was weak compared to Cracker.
Vista needed back up to face Ronse.
Crocodile who was weaker than Cracker can stop Mihawk without using haki. Marco needed haki to stop weaker top tier Kizaru.
Kaido was even afraid at the possibility fighting Big Mom Pirates while Kaido was confident with only bringing King to fight Whitebeard Pirates at Marineford.
So why didn't Big Mom defeated Luffy in 3 seconds when she had the chance? Plot armor. Just like in Marineford, Luffy was standing in front of the 3 Admirals, and any of them could defeat Luffy in 0.1 second, but that didn't happened.
This seems like a cope. She failed to hit Luffy because Katakuri was much faster than her that's it. It has nothing to do with plot.
None of the admirals was trying to attack Luffy though so you can excuse that. Big Mom was trying to attack Luffy but Katakuri attack hit Luffy because Katakuri IS MUCH FASTER THAN Big Mom.
Deal with it. This plot cope excuse is pathetic.
