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Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump (2024) - News and Discussion!

Your Favorite Chapters of Issue #24 of 2024 (5 Choices At Most)

  • One Pece 1114

  • My Hero Academia 422

  • Jujutsu Kaisen 259

  • Mission: Yozakura Family 225

  • Undead Unluck 206

  • Me & Roboco 184

  • Sakamoto Days 165

  • The Elusive Samurai 156

  • Witch Watch 155

  • Blue Box 148

  • Akane Banashi 109

  • Kill Blue 52

  • Nue's Exorcist 49

  • Kagurabachi 32

  • Green Green Greens 22

  • Ruri Dragon 13

  • Super Psychic Policeman Chojo 13

  • Dear Anemone 12

  • Astro Royale 4

  • Kyokuto Necromance 3

  • Psych House 1 - New Series!


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Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #25 (2024)
Kill Blue (Cover & Lead Color Pages; 1st Anniversary)
Blue Box
My Hero Academia
Mission: Yozakura Family
Psych House (Color Page; 2nd Chapter)
SAKAMOTO DAYS
Kyokuto Necromance
Youhei no Hen (Color Page; 47p; Oneshot by Mane Hideaki)
Astro Royale
Jujutsu Kaisen
Akane-banashi (Color Page)
WITCH WATCH
Choujun! Chojo Senpai
Undead Unluck
Me & Roboco
Nue's Exorcist
Kagurabachi
Green Green Greens
Dear Anemone
ONE PIECE (Absent)
The Elusive Samurai (Absent)


Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #26 (2024) - Preview
Cover & LCP: Nue's Exorcist (1st Anniversary)
CP: Blue Box; Choujun! Chojo Senpai; Oneshot by Satoushou Masayoshi
Absent: My Hero Academia
 
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Nice to see the Kagurabachi success, I've always enjoyed following new series that start strong and keep growing.

To me it's more impressive how a manga is able to catch an audience and grow really big before they get an anime, cause of course the anime gives it that big push and even more if the adaptation is great.

But seeing a series that without an anime that are able to grow on their own it just amazes me, thinking of how people reading One Piece for the first time in 1997 made Shueisha print 300k copies for volume 1 and it selling out immediately or more recent with Assassination Classroom how a series can be able to sell a million copies without an anime is just crazy and fascinating to me.

Just to make it clear I'm not comparing Kagurabachi to One Piece or Assassination Classroom cause it's not even close lmao but hopefully it keeps that route of growth and doesn't stagnate and hopefully Astro Royale can join it soon :hi
 
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Yeah, unless there are additional examples, the anticipation theory seems flimsy at best, felt like series come in the order theyre ready.
I actually crunched the data on this (and other stats to do with serialisation rounds) back in November 2021, which would need updated again but I doubt any of the changes would be that extreme. For this in particular:
  • In terms of the success rate depending on the order within a serialisation round:
    • In rounds of 2 series, the 2nd published series is more likely to survive (57%)
    • In rounds of 3 series, the 1st and 2nd published series are more likely to survive (44% vs 41%), while the 3rd series only survived 16% of the time.
    • In rounds of 4 series, all placements have similar chances to survive, with 2nd and 3rd at 28% vs 1st and 4th at 24%
    • In rounds of 5 series, 4th and 5th place are the most likely to survive (36% vs 29%); the 2nd series survives 21% of the time; the 1st series 14%; meanwhile, no series published 3rd has ever been a success.
    • In rounds of 6 series, the only three successes came in 1st, 3rd, and 5th, each sharing 33%.
    • In the single round of 7 serialisations, the 5th and 7th series were successes, sharing 50% each.
So being last in a serialisation round isn't indicative of it being a cursed spot in all circumstances, but it seems to be if its a round of three then the likelihood of survival is notably lower than most other scenarios. Yet if it's a round of two it's most likely to survive and in a round of five last place has the second best chance of survival. A curious note to me was that in a round of five serialisation the one in the middle (3rd) has never been a success.

So Cycle Biyori doesn't have statistics on its side, but that doesn't matter because it's going to defy expectations and be the best thing in the magazine. I'll welcome everyone aboard the appreciation train when you're ready to board, even if late.
 
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In rounds of 3 series, the 1st and 2nd published series are more likely to survive (44% vs 41%), while the 3rd series only survived 16% of the time.
And you know what one of those series was? One Piece. I'm officially on board with the Bucket Heads now.
 

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I actually crunched the data on this (and other stats to do with serialisation rounds) back in November 2021, which would need updated again but I doubt any of the changes would be that extreme. For this in particular:
  • In terms of the success rate depending on the order within a serialisation round:
    • In rounds of 2 series, the 2nd published series is more likely to survive (57%)
    • In rounds of 3 series, the 1st and 2nd published series are more likely to survive (44% vs 41%), while the 3rd series only survived 16% of the time.
    • In rounds of 4 series, all placements have similar chances to survive, with 2nd and 3rd at 28% vs 1st and 4th at 24%
    • In rounds of 5 series, 4th and 5th place are the most likely to survive (36% vs 29%); the 2nd series survives 21% of the time; the 1st series 14%; meanwhile, no series published 3rd has ever been a success.
    • In rounds of 6 series, the only three successes came in 1st, 3rd, and 5th, each sharing 33%.
    • In the single round of 7 serialisations, the 5th and 7th series were successes, sharing 50% each.
So being last in a serialisation round isn't indicative of it being a cursed spot in all circumstances, but it seems to be if its a a round of three then the likelihood of survival is notably lower than most other scenarios. Yet if it's a round of two it's most likely to survive and in a round of five last place has the second best chance of survival. A curious note to me was that in a round of five serialisation the one in the middle (3rd) has never been a success.

So Cycle Biyori doesn't have statistics on its side, but that doesn't matter because it's going to defy expectations and be the best thing in the magazine. I'll welcome everyone aboard the appreciation train when you're ready to board, even if late.
Interesting statistics. I mean when I heard about the batch of 5 and 6 in 1998 and 2017, they went beyond what was before 1982. But knowing that the odds for some are rare depending on where it’s placed varies. But it doesn’t mean nothing. Not as long as people enjoy it. But going over what we had with this batch here was my prediction on what I thought was a success or a failure based on what I have known from these mangaka.

-Astro Royale: Has the potential to be a hit because of Wakui. Thanks in part due to his pedigree with working with Kodansha and having a success with Tokyo Revengers, it shows the potential. However, by the time the final arc of Tokyo Revengers came, I know people hated it. But just coming off of a series not to long after it was finished also doesn’t give me confidence cause I worry about if there wasn’t any proper foundation and planning from that gap.

-Kyokuto Necromance: I think it might be a flop. Mainly from the fact that Naba just came back almost over a year ago. That and I really don’t trust his editor Murakoshi (if it is still him), when it comes to battle manga. Nothing against Murakoshi, I am a fan of his for launching Act-Acg (rip), Witch Watch, Blue Box, and Akane-banashi. But look at what he has done, romance, dramas, and slight comedies (he was also Numa’s editor when they did Samon the Summoner, before the transfer when Numa did Chojo). And Murakoshi also launched Burn the Witch, but that was so brief, mostly due to catering to Kubo. I just have no faith in this, unless otherwise but chapter 2 really showcases this.

-Cycle Byori: Now nothing against them since we only have the character designs, but I am leaning towards it to be a failure, mainly due to being a rookie. It would be rare for a newcomer who can have that level of understanding in their writing and then properly execute. But until I see what they can do, I have relatively low expectations. Might as well impress me in the same vein like how I had low expectations with P6 and then got completely won over.

And those were what my initial thoughts were. I do have expectations from the beginning, but until I read those chapters, they will vary and maybe change than just being blind to it.
 

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Shoseki Ranking Top 500 (May 4)
3. Kagurabachi #2
11. Akane-banashi #11
19. Undead Unluck #21
24. Nue's Exorcist #4
44. Cipher Academy #7
144. Martial Master Asumi #4
177. Shadow Eliminators #1
186. Green Green Greens #1

Backlog:
37. Kagurabachi #1

Also thanks maybe to the Golden Week, Yozakura has 7 Volumes at the top 500, Its best day since the anime started:
273 9784088840024 Mission: Yozakura Family 23 集英社 権平ひつじ 2024.04.04
326 9784088822433 Mission: Yozakura Family 2 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.04.03
329 9784088821788 Mission: Yozakura Family 1 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.02.04
381 9784088823348 Mission: Yozakura Family 3 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.06.04
445 9784088838458 Mission: Yozakura Family 22 集英社 権平ひつじ 2024.03.04
478 9784088823829 Mission: Yozakura Family 4 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.08.04
484 9784088824758 Mission: Yozakura Family 5 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.11.04
 
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YozaFam continuing to do what Undead Unluck couldn't. Nice.

Shadow Eliminators continuing to be above Green Green Greens. Exorcists FTW!!!!!
 

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Shoseki Ranking Top 500 (May 4)
3. Kagurabachi #2
11. Akane-banashi #11
19. Undead Unluck #21
24. Nue's Exorcist #4
44. Cipher Academy #7
144. Martial Master Asumi #4
177. Shadow Eliminators #1
186. Green Green Greens #1

Backlog:
37. Kagurabachi #1

Also thanks maybe to the Golden Week, Yozakura has 7 Volumes at the top 500, Its best day since the anime started:
273 9784088840024 Mission: Yozakura Family 23 集英社 権平ひつじ 2024.04.04
326 9784088822433 Mission: Yozakura Family 2 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.04.03
329 9784088821788 Mission: Yozakura Family 1 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.02.04
381 9784088823348 Mission: Yozakura Family 3 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.06.04
445 9784088838458 Mission: Yozakura Family 22 集英社 権平ひつじ 2024.03.04
478 9784088823829 Mission: Yozakura Family 4 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.08.04
484 9784088824758 Mission: Yozakura Family 5 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.11.04
boruto tbv vol 1 backlog was also way better than i thought it would be. Every WSJ manga ranked better today, maybe bc of Golden Week?
 

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Shoseki Ranking Top 500 (May 4)
3. Kagurabachi #2
11. Akane-banashi #11
19. Undead Unluck #21
24. Nue's Exorcist #4
44. Cipher Academy #7
144. Martial Master Asumi #4
177. Shadow Eliminators #1
186. Green Green Greens #1

Backlog:
37. Kagurabachi #1

Also thanks maybe to the Golden Week, Yozakura has 7 Volumes at the top 500, Its best day since the anime started:
273 9784088840024 Mission: Yozakura Family 23 集英社 権平ひつじ 2024.04.04
326 9784088822433 Mission: Yozakura Family 2 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.04.03
329 9784088821788 Mission: Yozakura Family 1 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.02.04
381 9784088823348 Mission: Yozakura Family 3 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.06.04
445 9784088838458 Mission: Yozakura Family 22 集英社 権平ひつじ 2024.03.04
478 9784088823829 Mission: Yozakura Family 4 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.08.04
484 9784088824758 Mission: Yozakura Family 5 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.11.04
Top 10 Oricon for Kagurabachi ?
 

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It were 2 good days, you did well Nue



Also thanks maybe to the Golden Week, Yozakura has 7 Volumes at the top 500, Its best day since the anime started:
273 9784088840024 Mission: Yozakura Family 23 集英社 権平ひつじ 2024.04.04
326 9784088822433 Mission: Yozakura Family 2 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.04.03
329 9784088821788 Mission: Yozakura Family 1 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.02.04
381 9784088823348 Mission: Yozakura Family 3 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.06.04
445 9784088838458 Mission: Yozakura Family 22 集英社 権平ひつじ 2024.03.04
478 9784088823829 Mission: Yozakura Family 4 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.08.04
484 9784088824758 Mission: Yozakura Family 5 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.11.04
We're almost there with vol 6 that it's when the first serious arc happens, but anyway, don't you just love when you see this and remember certain people who would make sure to put down any possibility of anime boost happening every time someone mentioned being excited about the anime? "WSJ don't care about it" "It will be 12eps and nothing more" "It will look bad" "Will have no boost at all", funny how you never see them owning up to being wrong about Yozakura everytime :grin
 

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Why can’t there be room for some sports manga, we have enough exorcist manga already lol
You mean there's not enough exorcist manga. We need more.
 

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Shoseki Ranking Top 500 (May 4)
3. Kagurabachi #2
11. Akane-banashi #11
19. Undead Unluck #21
24. Nue's Exorcist #4
44. Cipher Academy #7
144. Martial Master Asumi #4
177. Shadow Eliminators #1
186. Green Green Greens #1

Backlog:
37. Kagurabachi #1
Kagurabachi backlog might actually make Oricon's top 50 for the week.
Barely missed the mark with that first reprint back in early March, so I'm rooting for it.

On that note, it's nice to see Yozakura starting to fill the list up some.
I've only watched episode one to date but the anime seems charming enough.
 

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Quite unbelievable that an axed manga like SE is actually above GGG. Poor Terasaka.
 
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At least Terasaka's the one getting an extra 10 chapters or so, even if it might sell less that's better than ending before you've gotten a chance to tell a full proper story arc.

Anyways I bought Kagurabachi v2 and something kind of interesting I noticed is that both volumes are a chapter longer than usual (v1 goes to ch 8, and v2 goes to ch 18). I wonder if it's to make the volumes more themed (since volume 2 is the whole Sojo fight) or if Hokazono or WSJ just thought it'd be better with slightly longer volumes than usual for whatever reason.
 

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At least Terasaka's the one getting an extra 10 chapters or so, even if it might sell less that's better than ending before you've gotten a chance to tell a full proper story arc.

Anyways I bought Kagurabachi v2 and something kind of interesting I noticed is that both volumes are a chapter longer than usual (v1 goes to ch 8, and v2 goes to ch 18). I wonder if it's to make the volumes more themed (since volume 2 is the whole Sojo fight) or if Hokazono or WSJ just thought it'd be better with slightly longer volumes than usual for whatever reason.
I noticed that in other series too. It’s because chapter 1 and sometimes 2 have a higher page count than the ones that follow after. They usually aim for the 190-200 page mark for volumes from what I’ve noticed.
 
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