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Well...


So now Borat has a seal in his hand because he killed Momoshiki, the prologue has shown us were that ultimately leads.

Kaguya's flashback showed a third Otsutsuki so this is likely from whom Kawaki will get his seal from.

Still, this manga remains on a dead end because someone has to kill Naruto and Sasuke to become a real threat. I find it more likely that Sasuke and Naruto Will kill each other instead of someone killing them only to be stopped by Borat.

PS: I am mispelling the lame protag's name on purpose.
I think that is why you are reading this manga, When you see no conceivable way for a successful threat to appear then the author's creativity can shine and surprise if he could find a new solution to this plot related problems

Anyway, Naruto stagnated. The world has already seen the limits of Naruto's strength. And Sasuke doesn't have a hand and his powers are usually reinforcement type. There could be a genius finding a way to become more powerful than them. And Boruto could find himself among the leagues of new geniuses
 

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I think that is why you are reading this manga, When you see no conceivable way for a successful threat to appear then the author's creativity can shine and surprise if he could find a new solution to this plot related problems

Anyway, Naruto stagnated. The world has already seen the limits of Naruto's strength. And Sasuke doesn't have a hand and his powers are usually reinforcement type. There could be a genius finding a way to become more powerful than them. And Boruto could find himself among the leagues of new geniuses
Could find himself among the geniuses? Boruto is already a genius as far as the manga has told us. One that far and wide outclasses naruto's and sasuke's genius at that. On talent alone boruto managed to learn the rasengan in a week and from a purely genetic standpoint boruto foderizes naruto and sasuke seeing that he has senju and hyuga genes. Gene wise, and by extension genius wise, boruto is more comparable to the sage and his brother than naruto or sasuke who might as well be considered a lesser race. Granted that boruto rather than a rinnengan has a byakugan which would seem to be the lesser doojutsu but still, he inherited the hamura's eyes and hagoromo's chakra. Realistically speaking boruto only has one plausible peer, his little sister. The rest are simply less than him because their genes are literally demonstrably inferior.
 

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Could find himself among the geniuses? Boruto is already a genius as far as the manga has told us. One that far and wide outclasses naruto's and sasuke's genius at that. On talent alone boruto managed to learn the rasengan in a week and from a purely genetic standpoint boruto foderizes naruto and sasuke seeing that he has senju and hyuga genes. Gene wise, and by extension genius wise, boruto is more comparable to the sage and his brother than naruto or sasuke who might as well be considered a lesser race. Granted that boruto rather than a rinnengan has a byakugan which would seem to be the lesser doojutsu but still, he inherited the hamura's eyes and hagoromo's chakra. Realistically speaking boruto only has one plausible peer, his little sister. The rest are simply less than him because their genes are literally demonstrably inferior.
There are two things I would like to point out. Having potential doesn't mean the guy is a genius. You have to work hard and polish the talent you have. And even then, a few people (similar to Orochimaru and Uchiha Madara) may find ways to surpass you. (if they can retain their hardworking and pious spirit). Polgar Sisters ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/László_Polgár ) are the example of acquired genius. They are the true geniuses. They worked hard and had all those personality traits that enabled them to find ways while facing predicament.

And anyway, if you rely too much on your talent then you will be unprepared for the time when those talents start to fail you. There is no substitute for Hard work, favorable personality traits and human intelligence.
 

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There are two things I would like to point out. Having potential doesn't mean the guy is a genius. You have to work hard and polish the talent you have. And even then, a few people (similar to Orochimaru and Uchiha Madara) may find ways to surpass you. (if they can retain their hardworking and pious spirit). Polgar Sisters ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/László_Polgár ) are the example of acquired genius. They are the true geniuses. They worked hard and had all those personality traits that enabled them to find ways while facing predicament.

And anyway, if you rely too much on your talent then you will be unprepared for the time when those talents start to fail you. There is no substitute for Hard work, favorable personality traits and human intelligence.
What you say more or less applies to real life but it does not apply to naruto. In naruto genes and the genius they grant are everything. Prime example would be naruto. Senju genes and hokage dad. Naruto spent his entire childhood being ostracized by everyone he knew. Society was literally against him. And what happened? He had a tiny bit of possitive reinforcement and his talent exploded and started accomplishing stuff which no other of his peers could hope to match. And then went on to groinkick society and lead it, instead of what a normal human being would have done which is grow up to be a dysfunctional crack addict and die in a ditch. Except sasuke who was equally gifted. Uchiha madara is an example of someone at least as gifted as sasuke and naruto. Orochimaru does not seem to have godly genes but he was regarded as a rare genius. The fact of the matter is that hard work in the manga is presented in an unrealistic way and most of the stuff which the main characters are credited with are better explained by their genes than their hard work. besides, the hard work bit would only explain what we saw solely if naruto was actually working harder than others.

However we never actually see naruto working harder than others. Take sasuke for instance. How many flashbacks did we get of him working hard as a kid? IIRC, at least several. We even saw him getting trained by itachi. Meanwhile naruto was vandalizing stuff. And naruto quickly catched up to sasuke once the possitive reinforcement thing kicked in. Also, remember the month of training for the chunning exam? Sasuke spent that time learning chidori. You think he didn't work hard? of course he did. There is literally no evidence to suggest otherwise. To the best of our knowledge, literally all of naruto's peers worked insanely hard. The only reason naruto and sasuke got ahead was because the two of them were born better from a moral and physical standpoint. I mean, no amount of training can ever give their peers the sage chakra or rinnengan.
 
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Well...

What a boring ass start of a new Arc, they are just chasing up random bandits lead by some cheap body copying Orochimaru knock-off.

We only discovered that Katatsuki was a pawn to someone interested in ninja tech and Otsutsuki but the rest is purely filler garbage.

I am taking a break from this series until Kawaki and whoever is behind him shows up.
 

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What haxor said, it's like I'm trying to enjoy this but it's so boring. So much for "new material". The art, while getting better, still sucks so you can't even say anything good about that. Boruto is going to be a servant to some bitch boy.... sigh. I rather see slice of life or missions with team Boruto then learn of his curse mark then see what's Kawaki purpose. Coming from a Naruto fan, this manga is a hugeeee L so far
 

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What you say more or less applies to real life but it does not apply to naruto. In naruto genes and the genius they grant are everything. Prime example would be naruto. Senju genes and hokage dad. Naruto spent his entire childhood being ostracized by everyone he knew. Society was literally against him. And what happened? He had a tiny bit of possitive reinforcement and his talent exploded and started accomplishing stuff which no other of his peers could hope to match. And then went on to groinkick society and lead it, instead of what a normal human being would have done which is grow up to be a dysfunctional crack addict and die in a ditch. Except sasuke who was equally gifted. Uchiha madara is an example of someone at least as gifted as sasuke and naruto. Orochimaru does not seem to have godly genes but he was regarded as a rare genius. The fact of the matter is that hard work in the manga is presented in an unrealistic way and most of the stuff which the main characters are credited with are better explained by their genes than their hard work. besides, the hard work bit would only explain what we saw solely if naruto was actually working harder than others.

However we never actually see naruto working harder than others. Take sasuke for instance. How many flashbacks did we get of him working hard as a kid? IIRC, at least several. We even saw him getting trained by itachi. Meanwhile naruto was vandalizing stuff. And naruto quickly catched up to sasuke once the possitive reinforcement thing kicked in. Also, remember the month of training for the chunning exam? Sasuke spent that time learning chidori. You think he didn't work hard? of course he did. There is literally no evidence to suggest otherwise. To the best of our knowledge, literally all of naruto's peers worked insanely hard. The only reason naruto and sasuke got ahead was because the two of them were born better from a moral and physical standpoint. I mean, no amount of training can ever give their peers the sage chakra or rinnengan.
Maybe you were reading another manga. As far as the Pain Arc, when all the genetics BS started to become more prominent, Naruto was always praised as a genius of hard work, Hinata's entire fight against Neji and the Naruto vs Neji in the Chuunin exam was entirely based on the idea that Naruto's hardwork had the power to change his destiny, even Lee, probably the most hardworking of them all, was inspired by what Naruto did against Neji, he literally states that he had proven that hard work would trump genius and genetics (at least up to that point), to the point of literally saying that Naruto was trully the genius of hardwork and that one day he would win against Neji too and prove that he is one too. Heck the first story of the entire manga was based on Naruto's working his ass off to learn Tajuu Kage Bunshin, which he learned from a scroll of forbidden jutsus, the whole tree climbing trainning on Zabuza arc was filled with flashbacks of Naruto working his ass off to never be behind Sasuke, and more than once it was shown that the biggest frustration during his academy years was that no matter how hard he trained, he never seemed to get near Sasuke, and questioning himself if his hardwork would ever pay off. Positive feedback helped Naruto to focus his energy in using his tranning to something more productive, to really become a ninja and not just a hardworking brat, not to make him work harder.

Well...

What a boring ass start of a new Arc, they are just chasing up random bandits lead by some cheap body copying Orochimaru knock-off.

We only discovered that Katatsuki was a pawn to someone interested in ninja tech and Otsutsuki but the rest is purely filler garbage.

I am taking a break from this series until Kawaki and whoever is behind him shows up.
You know that if they make Boruto powerful people complain, if they make him not so powerful people complain, if he is shown fighting against top tier opponents people complain, if he fights fooder people complain... I tend to think no matter what they do, people would continue complain that he still isn't Naruto, after all they complained for 10 years or so that Naruto wasn't some older version of himself that people thought was the real Naruto.
 

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You know that if they make Boruto powerful people complain, if they make him not so powerful people complain, if he is shown fighting against top tier opponents people complain, if he fights fooder people complain... I tend to think no matter what they do, people would continue complain that he still isn't Naruto, after all they complained for 10 years or so that Naruto wasn't some older version of himself that people thought was the real Naruto.
The problem isn't fighting fodder, the problem is pacing.

This is a montly manga, if they waste any chapter on filler garbage we need to wait another five weeks instead of one to see if something useful comes out.

The main plotline of this new series is the rivalry between Kawaki and Boruto which culminates in their fight over the ruins of Konoha.

However, Kawaki haven't even been introduced yet while they waste time with random bandits and the prince of the fire country whose father's predecessor wasn't remotely relevant in the original series.

They need to connect the dots fast or else the ratings will drop hard.
 

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Well...


The problem isn't fighting fodder, the problem is pacing.

This is a montly manga, if they waste any chapter on filler garbage we need to wait another five weeks instead of one to see if something useful comes out.

The main plotline of this new series is the rivalry between Kawaki and Boruto which culminates in their fight over the ruins of Konoha.

However, Kawaki haven't even been introduced yet while they waste time with random bandits and the prince of the fire country whose father's predecessor wasn't remotely relevant in the original series.

They need to connect the dots fast or else the ratings will drop hard.
There are some problems with your analysis, first it assumes that the Rivalry between Kaeaki and Boruto is the main theme behind the series, which we don't know yet, For instance, in Naruto we thought for almost 10 years that Akatsuki was the ultimate enemy and their leader the ultimate boss, by the end of the series, Pain was virtually forgotten.

Other problem is thinking the series ratings will go down because it isn't the style that we, coming from a western society, think isn't a good pacing. Boruto's sales usually scores Top 3 every time in the week of its release, it usually beat far more famous series, like One Piece by a very wide margin, so it seems that its targeted audience in Japan, is either very pleased with it or at least don't think the pacing problems are hurting too much.The question is, why would they bother to change something that seems to not be an issue to the people who actually buy their products? Why would they listen to us, a western audience who mostly read pirated Edited Mangas over the audience who actually pays for it?
 

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Boruto is destined to become stronger than Naruto and Sasuke combined, if not because of his genes and how "new generations are stronger" plotline, it will be because the story will require him to be stronger than his father and teacher.

I am probably the only one, but I was hoping it wouldn't be like this. I didn't want Naruto 2.0, but a fresher story. A hero with all the strength and no challenges is, well, boring...
 

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Boruto is destined to become stronger than Naruto and Sasuke combined, if not because of his genes and how "new generations are stronger" plotline, it will be because the story will require him to be stronger than his father and teacher.

I am probably the only one, but I was hoping it wouldn't be like this. I didn't want Naruto 2.0, but a fresher story. A hero with all the strength and no challenges is, well, boring...
Or not, Boruto and his team could be something like Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Tsunade or Kakashi. They certainly were insanely powerful, but like Madara stated ad nauseum for years, they were nowhere near the kind of power him and Hashirama wielded in their prime. But unlike Hashirama, latter Hokages seems to have to be a far more diversified skill set, they stopped being just warriors, but became also politicians, administrators, teachers, and so on. I certainly see Boruto's team has potential to become kage contestants in the future, and even to be the protectors of the hopes and dreams of future generations, but they don't need to become Naruto 2.0 or Sasuke 2.0 to become the saviors of the ninja world.

And unlike most, I don't see the need to necessarily kill Naruto or Sasuke in order to the events reach the point in the prologue, Naruto and Sasuke could be MIA, could be following a lead on any possible Ootsutsuki threat when the events happens, heck they could just be living as isolated/self-exiled hermits like Madara seems to have lived for quite a time. And even if they are indeed dead, they could be die by too many things other than someone even stronger than them killing both, after all they are not invincible, they are not all powerful, they could still not be killed/sealed by anyone skilled enough. They did exactly this to Kaguya, she was far more powerful than the entire team 7 plus Obito together (essentially 5 kage level characters), in the end, the solution given by Hogoromo was to seal her, since no one really had the power to beat her on a pure raw power fight.

Like a quote from an old Star Wars novel: Skill is a Jedi's weapon against raw power.
 

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There are some problems with your analysis, first it assumes that the Rivalry between Kaeaki and Boruto is the main theme behind the series, which we don't know yet, For instance, in Naruto we thought for almost 10 years that Akatsuki was the ultimate enemy and their leader the ultimate boss, by the end of the series, Pain was virtually forgotten.

Other problem is thinking the series ratings will go down because it isn't the style that we, coming from a western society, think isn't a good pacing. Boruto's sales usually scores Top 3 every time in the week of its release, it usually beat far more famous series, like One Piece by a very wide margin, so it seems that its targeted audience in Japan, is either very pleased with it or at least don't think the pacing problems are hurting too much.The question is, why would they bother to change something that seems to not be an issue to the people who actually buy their products? Why would they listen to us, a western audience who mostly read pirated Edited Mangas over the audience who actually pays for it?
You are judging sales based on a successful movie adaptation rather than independent new content.

The previous Boruto chapters were focused on Naruto and Sasuke who are the most popular characters from an incredibly popular franchise.

From chapter 11 onwards people will start to see if they actually like Boruto's own story or not.

Just to make it clear that pacing can make or break a popular series even for Japanese audiences, remember that Bleach plummeted down from HM onwards because it dragged on in unnecessary parts while rushing on things related to the central plot.

As for Kawaki's rivalry with Boruto being a central theme. I think that having mirroring cursed marks, opposing goals and a massive fight right at the prologue serves as strong evidence to suggest that.

As for how Sasuke and Naruto got out of the story. I am of the opinion that either Sasuke lost his shit again and they killed each other. That or whoever killed them was taken out by Boruto and Kawaki working together.
 

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I do like the idea of Team Boruto being Kage/Sannin eventually (Sarada being Hokage obv) but Morgella's point is valid: they're like alien super hero kids. Naruto starting to focus too much on clan techniques which I think is where Boruto will eventually go... I wouldn't mind if the manga wasn't trash so far.
 

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I do like the idea of Team Boruto being Kage/Sannin eventually (Sarada being Hokage obv) but Morgella's point is valid: they're like alien super hero kids. Naruto starting to focus too much on clan techniques which I think is where Boruto will eventually go... I wouldn't mind if the manga wasn't trash so far.
That comparison is kind of sad because the prologue establishes that Konoha got destroyed before Sarada becomes Hokage.

Personally, I find Sarada and Mitsuki to be out of place in the story. Boruto's great destiny is established by being cursed by the gods to wield power and lose everything because of it. However, his team mates sort of lack strong connections to this divine conflict they are embroiled in.

Mitsuki is some kind of homunculus with Sage powers that manifest naturally but sage mode is already outmatched by a lot of other things in the series.

Sarada learned super strenght from Sakura but that ability is outmatched by everything with range. She also lacks siblings which means an eventual Mangekyou will inevitably drive her blind. Unless she is secretly an Uzumaki-Uchiha hybrid who can awaken the Rinnegan then her long term growth is pretty much doomed.
 

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Hi , I'm new here. I just saw Boruto's pic with byakugan and something like a tatoo in his hand and face. I'm thinking like, he is going to be even more stronger than naruto. And I just can't wait to watch it ^^
 

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Hi , I'm new here. I just saw Boruto's pic with byakugan and something like a tatoo in his hand and face. I'm thinking like, he is going to be even more stronger than naruto. And I just can't wait to watch it ^^
Well, no one can say for sure, but if Boruto follows the plot themes of Naruto he and Sarada are destined to become even stronger than the previous generation. That isn't even considering the god-like genetics of the two, or that Boruto just got "god powers" for defeating a "god".

So in my opinion? Yes, at some point, Boruto and Sarada are going to be stronger than those who came before them.
 

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You are judging sales based on a successful movie adaptation rather than independent new content.

The previous Boruto chapters were focused on Naruto and Sasuke who are the most popular characters from an incredibly popular franchise.

From chapter 11 onwards people will start to see if they actually like Boruto's own story or not.
You need to decide what is really your point, first you say pacing sucks because it is just a one years long adaptation of the movie/novel, than you say that the sales success was exactly due to the repetition of a content everyone already seen over a year before.

I'm not saying this series doesn't have a fair share of problems, but sometimes you seems to just want it to to have every single possible problem, you seem to be so eager to see it fail, that would be easier to just drop the series altogether. Or maybe I just got into it with expectations so low, that I ended up thinking it has less problems than I thought it would.

Just to make it clear that pacing can make or break a popular series even for Japanese audiences, remember that Bleach plummeted down from HM onwards because it dragged on in unnecessary parts while rushing on things related to the central plot.
I've never said pacing couldn't kill a series in the other side of the world, just that given its insane sales (specially given it doesn't have any new content), it doesn't seem that the overall evaluation of its pacing by the western audience is shared by the Japanese audience, and I agree that the next few months would give us a better idea of its performance.

As for Kawaki's rivalry with Boruto being a central theme. I think that having mirroring cursed marks, opposing goals and a massive fight right at the prologue serves as strong evidence to suggest that.
That comparison is kind of sad because the prologue establishes that Konoha got destroyed before Sarada becomes Hokage.
I've never said Kawaki isn't important to the plot, just that you may be reading too much into it early on. Like I said, in Naruto, until the endgame villain (Kaguya) really appeared, we had lots of false leads to the lead villain, first we had Orochimaru, them Akatsuki, them Pain, them Obito, them Madara, and only in last couple years out of 15 we really discovered who would be the final boss. It is a plot device used so much in Naruto, that it would be naive to not assume it wouldn't be used in Boruto, I really doubt the Kawaki fight would be anywhere near the last arc.

We already seen Konoha partially or completely destroyed at least three times (Orochimaru/Sand Invasion, Pain Invasion and Momoshiki/Kinshiki invasion), so I really don't read too much into it, the same goes to the idea that Kawaki and Boruto's marks are cursed seal marks, it could be, but it couldn't, at this point it could be anything, it is just too early to know. The only real indication we had of it really being cursed seal marks was Boruto's dark sclera when he activates his supposedly implanted Byakuugan, but now with the anime out we already know that Boruto's Byakuugan was his own all along and that it has a dark sclera since he first activates it.

In the end you may be proven right all along, but I really think that at this moment, where nothing is really defined in the series, you're jumping to conclusions based just on too much opinion and too little facts.

As for how Sasuke and Naruto got out of the story. I am of the opinion that either Sasuke lost his shit again and they killed each other. That or whoever killed them was taken out by Boruto and Kawaki working together.
It may be, or it may not be. For instance, Kawaki states that he sent Naruto somewhere, but it is never really stated if he was killed, he may have been sealed, like Kaguya, he may have been sent to another dimension where he could not get out without help, like Momoshiki and Kinshiki did to him. Sincerely I'm wondering far more about what's Sasuke's whereabouts than Naruto, since of the two, Naruto is the one we know that a clever plot could trap somewhere he could not get out on his own.

Well, no one can say for sure, but if Boruto follows the plot themes of Naruto he and Sarada are destined to become even stronger than the previous generation. That isn't even considering the god-like genetics of the two, or that Boruto just got "god powers" for defeating a "god".

So in my opinion? Yes, at some point, Boruto and Sarada are going to be stronger than those who came before them.
Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Tsunade and Kakashi were nowhere near Hachirama's level and they still ended up being the most powerful ninja of their time, I highly doubt Boruto and his team would get to the same level as Naruto and Sasuke, but I can easily see that they become the stronger of their generation and the only viable leaders of the ninja world, maybe with Gaara's kids as close seconds.
 

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This was a meh chapter. Lots of focus so we can care about Boruto eventually saving this kid whose name I don't even remember after reading the chapter.

On the plus side, that one page about Shino was hilarious.
 

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Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Tsunade and Kakashi were nowhere near Hachirama's level and they still ended up being the most powerful ninja of their time, I highly doubt Boruto and his team would get to the same level as Naruto and Sasuke, but I can easily see that they become the stronger of their generation and the only viable leaders of the ninja world, maybe with Gaara's kids as close seconds.
While it is true they could just become the strongest of their generation, one haven't been paying attention to the manga if they do not see the pattern of the new generation > the old generation. Naruto is a part of that old generation. It will happen. That isn't even considering his god like genetics and the god-powers he got for "defeating a god". Boruto, at the very least, will become even stronger than Naruto.

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Jesus, I just realized how mean that first part came off as. I'm sorry for that. xD
 

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Omg the that plot twist with the butler being the evil guy!!! Wowwwww that came out of nowhere, didn't see that coming at all!!!

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sigh, chapter was weak but better than last week. Stuff going on currently just isn't interesting, flat out. My favorite part of the chapter was the training and cards portion, which was filler stuff mostly
 
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