Discussion Character Info Cards - Power Levels

[Valhalla]

Today while reading FT power ranking thread (which i dont do often cuz you know, power levels in FT ... bruh) i suddenly got this idea; Since the Tartaros dark guild got info cards with power levels and digits and stuff, wouldnt it be a neat idea for other characters from the series to have them as well and to speculate what the damn digits would be. Madness right

Tartaros cards - since they are based on a game their abilities are based accordingly, so that the cards would be kinda playable. But i didnt have the time to think of any game so for the others i only described their abilities. But whats most important in the end are digits and what power levels would the other characters have, if compared to the Tartaros guild. They do look kinda inconsistent but i think its manageable.



















So what would the power levels be for the other characters:

ALVAREZ

Even got some Fairy Tail madoshis:

FAIRY TAIL

And Crime S. ...

CS

Thats about it for now. Maybe I'll do some more in the future (if there ever would be e need for more characters lol)
So what would the digits be? What are the POWER LEVELS?

 

[Ebony Maw]

Dude these are so high quality!

Love the roasts too, when I got to "burns through good writing" I was fucking crying.

Power levels are going to be interesting to debate, so far my only ideas are:

- Whatever Magic Power is decided for one regular Spriggan has to be the standard for the others

- August and Irene should also have equal amounts of MP, though I think there may be one or two that will contest this

- Larcade's MP is a grey area IMO, Mavis mentioned that it had a strange aura IIRC and the portrayal seemed to suggest he was only inferior to August and Irene

- Laxus/Jellal/Gildarts should have the same amount of MP

- Natsu is going to be a nightmare to judge, are we judging him at his plot breaking prime, his FDKM, his DF or base?

That's all I've got for now.

Thanks for making these @Valhalla777, I imagine this is going to be a really fun thread

 

[Valhalla]

Dude these are so high quality!

Love the roasts too, when I got to "burns through good writing" I was fucking crying.

Power levels are going to be interesting to debate, so far my only ideas are:

- Whatever Magic Power is decided for one regular Spriggan has to be the standard for the others

- August and Irene should also have equal amounts of MP, though I think there may be one or two that will contest this

- Larcade's MP is a grey area IMO, Mavis mentioned that it had a strange aura IIRC and the portrayal seemed to suggest he was only inferior to August and Irene

- Laxus/Jellal/Gildarts should have the same amount of MP

- Natsu is going to be a nightmare to judge, are we judging him at his plot breaking prime, his FDKM, his DF or base?

That's all I've got for now.

Thanks for making these @Valhalla777, I imagine this is going to be a really fun thread

Np man its fun doing something like this.

For Natsu, i did put his power of feelings "ability" which should be infinite i guess
I think the rest is what his max power would be without the nakama feelings and emotions. Though i dont know if his max would be FDKM or DF, or do we just judge his base power and put the FDKM and DF into his Dragon Slayer slot damn questions.

 

[Jko]

@Valhalla777 These look really good. Drop a Mira one tho so we can really get the discussion rolling

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That Irene one is of the highest quality

 

[Axiomus]

You should probably change the attacks to actual attacks like the Tartaros cards. Remember, it's designed like a card game.For example:

Fire Dragon King's Demolition Fist. Costs 9000 MP. Inflicts massive burning and physical damage to one singular target.
Flames of Savage Emotions. Costs whatever Natsu's maximum MP is. Gains infinite attack power at the cost of 1000 health every turn.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

All

Today while reading FT power ranking thread (which i dont do often cuz you know, power levels in FT ... bruh) i suddenly got this idea; Since the Tartaros dark guild got info cards with power levels and digits and stuff, wouldnt it be a neat idea for other characters from the series to have them as well and to speculate what the damn digits would be. Madness right

Tartaros cards - since they are based on a game their abilities are based accordingly, so that the cards would be kinda playable. But i didnt have the time to think of any game so for the others i only described their abilities. But whats most important in the end are digits and what power levels would the other characters have, if compared to the Tartaros guild. They do look kinda inconsistent but i think its manageable.



















So what would the power levels be for the other characters:

ALVAREZ

Even got some Fairy Tail madoshis:

FAIRY TAIL

And Crime S. ...

CS

Thats about it for now. Maybe I'll do some more in the future (if there ever would be e need for more characters lol)
So what would the digits be? What are the POWER LEVELS?

All good.... but where is Mirajane's card? I'm sad.

 

[Valhalla]

You should probably change the attacks to actual attacks like the Tartaros cards. Remember, it's designed like a card game.For example:

Fire Dragon King's Demolition Fist. Costs 9000 MP. Inflicts massive burning and physical damage to one singular target.
Flames of Savage Emotions. Costs whatever Natsu's maximum MP is. Gains infinite attack power at the cost of 1000 health every turn.

Yeah at first when i saw that the abilities section had a format like that of a card game i was thinking about doing something like that as well, but i was a bit limited with time so i went just with short infos and gags. I may think of something in the future when some free time comes by again your suggestion sounds pretty cool as well.

@Valhalla777 These look really good. Drop a Mira one tho so we can really get the discussion rolling

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That Irene one is of the highest quality

All

All good.... but where is Mirajane's card? I'm sad.

Fixed

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Yeah at first when i saw that the abilities section had a format like that of a card game i was thinking about doing something like that as well, but i was a bit limited with time so i went just with short infos and gags. I may think of something in the future when some free time comes by again your suggestion sounds pretty cool as well.



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Thank you Buddy!!!!!

 

[Valhalla]

As you've noticed i did some gags for certain characters second abilities. You can ignore that cuz some of those have basically infinite power levels.
I went through it pretty fast so when i got stuck on what i would put in the second slot, that was the first thing i thought of lol. Seems like i miss doing those parody chapters where i was roasting the characters in a fun way left and right

 

[Seven777]

@Valhalla777 Woah, I didn't think you'd go this far. They look amazing.

Since this is basically my mindscape when I think of FT PL's I'll give my opinion on a few of the more interesting Spriggans. I'll prob bump up the numbers compared to what I said in the PL thread since I didn't realize how friggin high Mard's stats were.

Dimaria:
HP: 10000
Attack: 5000
Defense: 6000
Speed: 2000
Intelligence: 1000
Magic Power: 15000

Age Seal - 3000
God Soul - 1500

Brandish:
HP: 7000
Attack: 4000
Defense: 2000
Speed: 2000
Intelligence: 2000
Magic Power: 16000

Expansion - 2500
Reduction - 1500

Larcade:
HP: 12000
Attack: 7000
Defense: 6000
Speed: 5000
Intelligence: 300
Magic Power: 20000

Cross - 300
Desire - 2000

Jacob:
HP: 11000
Attack: 4000
Defense: 4000
Speed: 6000
Intelligence: 1000
Magic Power: 14000

Transport - 2000
Stealth - 800

Eileen(inc dragon form):
HP: 35000
Attack: 20000
Defense: 20000
Speed: 15000
Intelligence: 7000
Magic Power: 55000

Enchantment - 3000
Dragon Form - 6000

August:
HP: 30000
Attack: 18000
Defense: 20000
Speed: 20000
Intelligence: 7000
Magic Power: 60000

Copy - 6000
Ars Magia - 10000

 

[Valhalla]

@Valhalla777 Woah, I didn't think you'd go this far. They look amazing.

Since this is basically my mindscape when I think of FT PL's I'll give my opinion on a few of the more interesting Spriggans. I'll prob bump up the numbers compared to what I said in the PL thread since I didn't realize how friggin high Mard's stats were.

Dimaria:
HP: 10000
Attack: 5000
Defense: 6000
Speed: 2000
Intelligence: 1000
Magic Power: 15000

Age Seal - 3000
God Soul - 1500

Brandish:
HP: 7000
Attack: 4000
Defense: 2000
Speed: 2000
Intelligence: 2000
Magic Power: 16000

Expansion - 2500
Reduction - 1500

Larcade:
HP: 12000
Attack: 7000
Defense: 6000
Speed: 5000
Intelligence: 300
Magic Power: 20000

Cross - 300
Desire - 2000

Jacob:
HP: 11000
Attack: 4000
Defense: 4000
Speed: 6000
Intelligence: 1000
Magic Power: 14000

Transport - 2000
Stealth - 800

Eileen(inc dragon form):
HP: 35000
Attack: 20000
Defense: 20000
Speed: 15000
Intelligence: 7000
Magic Power: 55000

Enchantment - 3000
Dragon Form - 6000

August:
HP: 30000
Attack: 18000
Defense: 20000
Speed: 20000
Intelligence: 7000
Magic Power: 60000

Copy - 6000
Ars Magia - 10000

Nice ill give my thoughts on this later this day. Currently at work.
Comparing the MP of Brandish and August, you really went different dimensions lol

 

[Seven777]

Nice ill give my thoughts on this later this day. Currently at work.
Comparing the MP of Brandish and August, you really went different dimensions lol

Ha, pretty much. The way I see it it's like comparing Mard Geer to Tempester, a 4-5 times multiplier. MP is all people ever talk about when referencing spriggans, especially compared to earlier arcs, so I feel like MP will be the greatest stat for most spriggans as opposed to demons. Plus imo most spriggans are pretty weak compared to the stronger FT members, so August and Eileen should be above even that.

 

[Axiomus]

Ha, pretty much. The way I see it it's like comparing Mard Geer to Tempester, a 4-5 times multiplier. MP is all people ever talk about when referencing spriggans, especially compared to earlier arcs, so I feel like MP will be the greatest stat for most spriggans as opposed to demons. Plus imo most spriggans are pretty weak compared to the stronger FT members, so August and Eileen should be above even that.

For me, the biggest challenge is factoring in mpf scores as well. Jura scored 8544 on the mpf, so thats a measure of his attack power. If we assume that the mpf scores correlate to the Tartaros cards as attack power, someone like God Serena should have stats well over 20~30k.

 

[Seven777]

For me, the biggest challenge is factoring in mpf scores as well. Jura scored 8544 on the mpf, so thats a measure of his attack power. If we assume that the mpf scores correlate to the Tartaros cards as attack power, someone like God Serena should have stats well over 20~30k.

Hmmm, but MPF judges your strongest attack, not your overall attack power. Like we saw from Obra, even if you have a decent amount of power, if the specific attack isn't strong you'll still get a 4.

Besides, is God Serena's offense really that good? It took at least 4 attacks to put the GoI down, probably more and they were all still conscious by the end of it. If Jura hit himself with 4 Rumbling Mt Fujis, would he still be conscious by the end of it? My guess is no, probably not.

 

[Axiomus]

Hmmm, but MPF judges your strongest attack, not your overall attack power. Like we saw from Obra, even if you have a decent amount of power, if the specific attack isn't strong you'll still get a 4.

Besides, is God Serena's offense really that good? It took at least 4 attacks to put the GoI down, probably more and they were all still conscious by the end of it. If Jura hit himself with 4 Rumbling Mt Fujis, would he still be conscious by the end of it? My guess is no, probably not.

Someone like Obra probably doesn't have that great of attack power anyways. I rank attack power not as how much damage you can dish out over a period of time, but rather how strong your strongest attack is. Either way, God Serena would have had to have better stats than the Gods of Ishgar. He's got 8 elements, but he only ended up using 3 of his attacks.

 

[Jko]

DiMaria (Base):
HP: 16000
Attack: 16000
Defense: 15000
Speed: 17000
Intelligence: 10000
Magic Power: 20000
Age Seal: For every five turns DiMaria is on the battlefield, she can stop the opponent from moving for an entire turn.

God Soul: Transform into the God of Time Chronos. Will lose the Age Seal but gained two additional abilities and increase stats. ~Needs DiMaria (God Soul) in order to use.~

DiMaria (God Soul):
HP: 24000
Attack: 22000
Defense: 24000
Speed: 24000
Intelligence: 15000
Magic Power: 25000

Age Scratch: All accumulated damage an opponent has taken will be brought back on them as an Attack equaling the Damage they've taken.

Laser: An a beam of time magic that cannot be avoided!

Irene (Human):
HP: 60000
Attack: 60000
Defense: 60000
Speed: 60000
Intelligence: 65000
Magic Power: 65000
~High Enchant: Passive or direct elemental effects are undone to Irene and allies. Also increase the power of Enchant by 2x. (Enchant allows Irene to buff the stats of her allies by 10%.)

~Dragonfication: Irene turns into a Dragon and gets a humongous buff but she has to be out on the field for a total of 7 turns. *Must have Irene (Dragon)*

August:
HP: 75000
Attack: 80000
Defense: 75000
Speed: 80000
Intelligence: 75000
Magic Power: 80000

~Copy: Nullifies and Copies caster magic for every other turn~
~Ars Magia: Wipes the field clean on both sides~
Irene (Dragon):
HP: 100000
Attack: 100000
Defense: 100000
Speed: 100000
Intelligence: 65000
Magic Power: 90000

~Sage Magic: Increase Irene's High Enchant to Master Enchant which triples the power of Enchant.~

~Dragon Scales: All magical attacks are reduced by 20%.~

Some of mine.

 

[Valhalla]

Damn, all these gameplay quirks for certain abilities nice
lol makes me wanna create an actual game based on this. Maybe i'll get some inspiration and create something by the time summer comes

So the way i was basing it, i was looking at each of Tartaros's individual stat in a certain category and compare it to how they performed against FT plus how power levels grew from Tartaros to Alvarez in the span of a year. Based on these, one example would be:


Brandish
HP: 3000 --> She shrugged of an Aqua Metria without injury or being tired, but got down by a knife slash (the Cana punch was more of a gag, like Natsu and his motion sickness so i aint looking at that)
Attack: 1500 --> her op magic is based more on utility rather than attack, and her physical attack aint that supper impressive. Still this is one year later FT we talking about.
Defense: 3200 --> tanked an Aqua Metria, can block a Lucy Taurus kick with one hand, could take Neinhart's vortex.
Speed: 2000--> She herself aint that fast, but her magic is. She still nonchalantly dodged Cana's cards.
Intelligence: 1800 --> kinda like Seilah, maybe
Magic Power: 15000 (maybe even higher) --> This is where the spriggans shine. Her magic power should be off the charts.
Reduction: 6000 --> super hax instakill
Expansion: 6000 --> same


So based on Mard and his curse power i went like this:

Erza 7000 MP < Laxus and Jellal 10000 MP < Makarov 11000 MP < GOI 12000 ~ 13000 MP < Spriggan 15000 MP (maybe even higher) < Irene and August 30000 ~ 35000 MP (maybe even higher)

since its curse power i cant base it properly but i went like 6000 CP is = to 6000 MP, and these stats are after 1 year time skip. To some it probably would not make much sense its how interpreted the power levels. Im actually still thinking what the exact digits would be for me.

 

[Seven777]

I'll do some FT characters now as well.

Natsu:
HP: 25000
Attack: 20000
Defense: 5000
Speed: 6000
Intelligence: 1000
Magic Power: 13000

DS Magic - 1500
Savage Emotions - 9999999999

Gray:
HP: 22000
Attack: 14000
Defense: 6000
Speed: 7000
Intelligence: 5000
Magic Power: 12000

Ice Make - 800
DeS - 1500

Erza:
HP: 25000
Attack: 15000
Defense: 6000
Speed: 10000
Intelligence: 3000
Magic Power: 12000

Requip - 1200
BECAUSE SHE'S ERZA - 99999999

Mirajane:
HP: 18000
Attack: 12000
Defense: 5000
Speed: 9000
Intelligence: 2500
Magic Power: 15000

Satan Soul - 1200
Darkness - 500

Laxus:
HP: 22000
Attack: 18000
Defense: 10000
Speed: 18000
Intelligence: 3000
Magic Power: 17000

DS Magic - 1500
Red Lightning - 1600

Jellal:
HP: 15000
Attack: 18000
Defense: 5000
Speed: 20000
Intelligence: 5000
Magic Power: 18000

Heavenly Body Magic - 1200
Sema - 1800

Someone like Obra probably doesn't have that great of attack power anyways. I rank attack power not as how much damage you can dish out over a period of time, but rather how strong your strongest attack is. Either way, God Serena would have had to have better stats than the Gods of Ishgar. He's got 8 elements, but he only ended up using 3 of his attacks.

Sure, but he has more than 4, at least according to Raven Tail. My point is that theres a difference in power between different attacks, sometimes a vast difference.

Sure, God Serena would have better stats than the GoI, but that doesn't necessarily mean every single one of his stats is better than every single one of their stats. From what I saw, God Serena's durability was the greatest advantage he had over the GoI. Like I said before, if Jura blasted himself with 4 Rumbling Mt Fujis, would he still be conscious by the end of it? I guess he could be, maybe, but I personally wouldn't rank any of God Serena's attacks vastly above Rumbling Mt Fuji, or any Spriggan's attacks tbh. FT characters on the other hand? Most of them can go far beyond that.

I understand where you're coming from when you say you want to rank a characters greatest attack as the attack value for this thread, since it's averaging out a characters attack seems pretty unreliable, but heres the problem I see with that. What if a characters strongest attack is vastly superior to what they can normally do? For example, Wahl. His strongest attack is Etherion right? Would you give him enormously high attack power? Higher than Natsu? Or do you think Etherion is weaker than Demolition Fist? Or Cana, Fairy Glitter is a spell that Gildart's kinda implied was on the same level as his attacks, would you rank Cana's attack power on a similar level to Gildarts?

DiMaria (Base):
HP: 16000
Attack: 16000
Defense: 15000
Speed: 17000
Intelligence: 10000
Magic Power: 20000
Age Seal: For every five turns DiMaria is on the battlefield, she can stop the opponent from moving for an entire turn.

God Soul: Transform into the God of Time Chronos. Will lose the Age Seal but gained two additional abilities and increase stats. ~Needs DiMaria (God Soul) in order to use.~

DiMaria (God Soul):
HP: 24000
Attack: 22000
Defense: 24000
Speed: 24000
Intelligence: 15000
Magic Power: 25000

Age Scratch: All accumulated damage an opponent has taken will be brought back on them as an Attack equaling the Damage they've taken.

Laser: An a beam of time magic that cannot be avoided!

Irene (Human):
HP: 60000
Attack: 60000
Defense: 60000
Speed: 60000
Intelligence: 65000
Magic Power: 65000
~High Enchant: Passive or direct elemental effects are undone to Irene and allies. Also increase the power of Enchant by 2x. (Enchant allows Irene to buff the stats of her allies by 10%.)

~Dragonfication: Irene turns into a Dragon and gets a humongous buff but she has to be out on the field for a total of 7 turns. *Must have Irene (Dragon)*

August:
HP: 75000
Attack: 80000
Defense: 75000
Speed: 80000
Intelligence: 75000
Magic Power: 80000

~Copy: Nullifies and Copies caster magic for every other turn~
~Ars Magia: Wipes the field clean on both sides~
Irene (Dragon):
HP: 100000
Attack: 100000
Defense: 100000
Speed: 100000
Intelligence: 65000
Magic Power: 90000

~Sage Magic: Increase Irene's High Enchant to Master Enchant which triples the power of Enchant.~

~Dragon Scales: All magical attacks are reduced by 20%.~

Some of mine.

Don;t you think you're going a little crazy with the intelligence stat lol? You really think Dimaria is more than 5 times smarter than Kyoka and Seilah?

 

[Axiomus]

Sure, but he has more than 4, at least according to Raven Tail. My point is that theres a difference in power between different attacks, sometimes a vast difference.

Sure, God Serena would have better stats than the GoI, but that doesn't necessarily mean every single one of his stats is better than every single one of their stats. From what I saw, God Serena's durability was the greatest advantage he had over the GoI. Like I said before, if Jura blasted himself with 4 Rumbling Mt Fujis, would he still be conscious by the end of it? I guess he could be, maybe, but I personally wouldn't rank any of God Serena's attacks vastly above Rumbling Mt Fuji, or any Spriggan's attacks tbh. FT characters on the other hand? Most of them can go far beyond that.

I understand where you're coming from when you say you want to rank a characters greatest attack as the attack value for this thread, since it's averaging out a characters attack seems pretty unreliable, but heres the problem I see with that. What if a characters strongest attack is vastly superior to what they can normally do? For example, Wahl. His strongest attack is Etherion right? Would you give him enormously high attack power? Higher than Natsu? Or do you think Etherion is weaker than Demolition Fist? Or Cana, Fairy Glitter is a spell that Gildart's kinda implied was on the same level as his attacks, would you rank Cana's attack power on a similar level to Gildarts?

Don;t you think you're going a little crazy with the intelligence stat lol? You really think Dimaria is more than 5 times smarter than Kyoka and Seilah?

I guess, but I would still rank most of God Serena's attacks as quite a bit better than Mt. Fuji. If Jura could cast multiple Mt. Fujis and each of them could have matched God Serena's attacks, then God Serena wouldn't have been so overwhelming in beating the Wizard Saints. IMO, I found God Serena impressive for the opposite reasons as you did. His speed and durability was never put on display because the Ishgar Saints didn't really do much, but his attack power was put on display.

Wall's etherion doesn't have any feats so I don't really factor it in. If we must consider it, I would personally compare it to one of Elie's etherion blasts from Rave Master as opposed to the council's Etherion. Natsu's demolition fist, particularly the one he used to finish Zeref, would be stronger.

If Fairy Glitter is indeed on the same level as Gildart's attacks, why would we not rank it as such? Obviously, I get that Cana's card magic isn't anywhere near as powerful as Gildart's attacks, but if Cana's Fairy Glitter can hit around the same ballpark.....Would it really be fair to just ignore it?

I have to say though, I like the way you stat the main cast.

 

[Seven777]

I guess, but I would still rank most of God Serena's attacks as quite a bit better than Mt. Fuji. If Jura could cast multiple Mt. Fujis and each of them could have matched God Serena's attacks, then God Serena wouldn't have been so overwhelming in beating the Wizard Saints. IMO, I found God Serena impressive for the opposite reasons as you did. His speed and durability was never put on display because the Ishgar Saints didn't really do much, but his attack power was put on display.

Wall's etherion doesn't have any feats so I don't really factor it in. If we must consider it, I would personally compare it to one of Elie's etherion blasts from Rave Master as opposed to the council's Etherion. Natsu's demolition fist, particularly the one he used to finish Zeref, would be stronger.

If Fairy Glitter is indeed on the same level as Gildart's attacks, why would we not rank it as such? Obviously, I get that Cana's card magic isn't anywhere near as powerful as Gildart's attacks, but if Cana's Fairy Glitter can hit around the same ballpark.....Would it really be fair to just ignore it?

I have to say though, I like the way you stat the main cast.

Hmm, I would say God Serena's magic power was put on display more than his attack power, shooting off multiple large scale attack in succession. Compare that to Jura for example, I doubt he could pull out more than 2 Mt Fuji's in an entire battle, let alone fire them off immediately one after the other. Still don't think any of the attacks God Serena displayed are better than Mt Fuji, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that point. You're right on speed not really being shown off in that fight though, don't know why I put that in there, God Serena didn't dodge nothin.

I wouldn't ignore Fairy Glitter, I just wouldn't ignore Cana's basic cards either. I'd probably put Fairy Glitter as one of Cana's special abilities, like Macro is for Seilah. And for the attack rating, I'd just average out Fairy Glitter with her cards, with consideration of their application in battle(how often she can use them, etc).

For example, if Natsu were to use the MPF, I'd guess an FD attack, his most commonly used attacks, would score around a 6000-7000, around or a bit above what normal spriggans can dish out. I'd say Demolition fist, a slightly rarer attack for Natsu, is around 15000-16000, still top tier, but beatable by characters like Laxus and Jellal. And then for Dragon Force Natsu's Demolition Fist, his strongest attack that exhausts him massively, would be around 25000-30000, better than anything FT members or even August and Eileen can do. Chuck em all together with consideration for how they're used in combat and I'd say Natsu's attack is overall, about 20000. Not exactly accurate, but I feel it's easier to compare him to other characters that way. Not everyone has massive finishers, some characters just have an overall powerful arsenal, like Erza for example. None of her finishers are particularly impressive, but her overall offense is very good. Thats how I see it anyway.