Discussion Developers thread

[scav]

A thread for developers so we can discuss and share thing. Personally i'd like to know if there is a front-end developer here because i'm interested in becoming a front-end developers and i need some advices

 

[Pat]

Moved the thread to IT forum.

You can check out this site to get information about frontend development, it gives some useful tips.

 

[scav]

oh thank. i wasn't sure where to start, look like i found something to do this summer. I know the basics of javascript but that's it. Something i'd still like to know how tools like photoshop and illustrator are important for web designer.

 

[Pat]

I think that article may give you insight about that subject.

 

[M3J]

where can one go to learn coding for free, or at least start out free?

 

[scav]

where can one go to learn coding for free, or at least start out free?

depend what language you wanna learn? or what do you aim? web, mobile, software or games? generally i prefer learning from books but tutorial are way easier to understand when you're beginning. http://www.tutorialspoint.com/ is a good tutorial site.
if you don't know what you wanna do, i recommend starting with C and Html. C is kinda the base of every language, Html is the basic markup language you need to know if you ever wanna do some web related programs.

 

[Pat]

where can one go to learn coding for free, or at least start out free?

Generally you can find great tutorials and possibly free e-books on well-known programming languages. Do you have a specific reason to learn a programming language or are you interested in it as a hobby?

 

[M3J]

depend what language you wanna learn? or what do you aim? web, mobile, software or games? generally i prefer learning from books but tutorial are way easier to understand when you're beginning. http://www.tutorialspoint.com/ is a good tutorial site.
if you don't know what you wanna do, i recommend starting with C and Html. C is kinda the base of every language, Html is the basic markup language you need to know if you ever wanna do some web related programs.

I'm not sure, I was thinking of Java and HTML, so probably web for now before moving onto mobile. Thank you! I should start with C and HTML, you're right.

Generally you can find great tutorials and possibly free e-books on well-known programming languages. Do you have a specific reason to learn a programming language or are you interested in it as a hobby?

Hobby and to expand my chances of getting a job.

 

[Pat]

If you're into web programming, HTML and JavaScript may be a reasonable alternative. You can move to PHP at one point for server-side scripting, these can keep you busy for a while. C is a powerful programming language but I don't recommend it to hobbyists, it takes quite a long time to grasp all the language constructs and it may deter you from spending more time on it due to its complexity. Python is sufficiently simple and popular, and it has a large standard library which lets you do almost anything. AFAIK it's Osso's favorite programming language, I guess he can give you more detailed information about it if you decide to go for it.

 

[scav]

well C can be a bit challenging for a beginner but when you tackle C you'll understand how the memory work and you'll be able to easily move to any other language. that been said python is also a good starting point due to it short learning curve. If you wanna tackle the web development as miyagi said you have to start with html and javascript then sql. PHP is kinda optional due to java popularity. Java kinda became most the popular language for web applications and i'm seeing less and less company using PHP. So you can choose one of those 2. Personally i'm good with both but java is by far my favorite language. Also if you have a creative mind and like design you can dig into the front-end development (things we discussed above), that's what i'm interested in atm. If you become really good at it you can find a job everywhere without a problem. Same thing with the java, if you become good with JEE, springMVC (a framework), hibernate. you're good to go. With Mobile development (java for android, objective C/swift for ios ) you can directly access the global market by publishing app on the store.

 

[M3J]

The biggest problem is finding tutorials that'll teach me without charging too much. But yeah, I have a better sense of what I need to know now. HTML, javascript, probably java, and SQL. What is springMVC? I haven't heard of that before.

 

[scav]

oh spring mvc is a framework. nobody write raw code anymore on web project, that take too much time. People work with frameworks, they greatly reduce the amount of work you have to do. That been said you don't have to bother with it now. just focus on learning the languages atm

 

[Arbalest]

first you need to pick an orientation as in what is it that you wanna do after that i'll advise you some really good books for the purpose the problem with online tutorials is they are almost empty in content and mostly it gives unpractical and outdated code not to mention some of them are not very safe if you'll think about later on security, i don't know if its against the rules to post names or references to amazons in here so if it's the case just send me a p.m with the area of interest and i'll send u some useful links

 

[scav]

looking for a good free translator API, so far i'm hesitating between Microsoft translator API (offer 2M character per months for free) and yandex (offer 1M characters per day for free but have a rather confusing terms of services). any suggestion?

 

[benelori]

Oh nice, I haven't seen this thread before

I'm a PHP drupal developer with fair knowledge of front-end, and I've done some Spring MVC at some point as well...nice to meet ya guys

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first you need to pick an orientation as in what is it that you wanna do after that i'll advise you some really good books for the purpose the problem with online tutorials is they are almost empty in content and mostly it gives unpractical and outdated code not to mention some of them are not very safe if you'll think about later on security, i don't know if its against the rules to post names or references to amazons in here so if it's the case just send me a p.m with the area of interest and i'll send u some useful links

It's okay to post links...they are recommendations and it's for educational purposes so no problem

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where can one go to learn coding for free, or at least start out free?

If it's web development w3schools is a good site...there are some good youtube channels as well...

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I'm not sure, I was thinking of Java and HTML, so probably web for now before moving onto mobile. Thank you! I should start with C and HTML, you're right.

I'd suggest skipping C, it's ugly ... if you learn HTML at some point do it along with studying CSS...they go hand in hand

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oh spring mvc is a framework. nobody write raw code anymore on web project, that take too much time. People work with frameworks, they greatly reduce the amount of work you have to do. That been said you don't have to bother with it now. just focus on learning the languages atm

And the underlying concepts as well...I dunno if I'd suggest jumping into OOP...procedural code is a better start for a beginner

 

[Demonspeed]

Anyone knows a good site with detailed explanations on machine language?

 

[Nomi]

I'm not sure, I was thinking of Java and HTML, so probably web for now before moving onto mobile. Thank you! I should start with C and HTML, you're right.


Hobby and to expand my chances of getting a job.

HTML is a programming language? lol!

 

[scav]

HTML is a programming language? lol!

i think you're very bored to point that out lol and i dont think he ever said that it was a programming language.

 

[benelori]

How fares your front-end knowledge @scav ?

 

[scav]

How fares your front-end knowledge @scav ?

haha still basic, i don't do much front-end anymore. lately when i work on a website i just download some templates and javascript librairie, add few change and that's it. I liked to take my time and write my own stuff, now with the amount of projects i'm getting i just wanna save time. For example before if i wanted a good looking sortable datatable i would take hours and write the javascript and css myself, now in a same situation i would just download Jquery Datatable plugin and fck that shit lol Damn customers and project managers if you spend hours make something for them they're never happy, figured might as well copy pasta the design