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Maybe Jellal is Laxus lvl, but for now he didnt show anything for that. I put him after Hyb bs 2nd GoI use some telekinesis magic on humans, so he is real monster and i dont see any chanse for Jellal to avoid that. Only if he strong like Laxus and Serena, but we must waiting when he show us his true power of Jellal's love feelings
Then why was it fair to say Mirajane's Macro has restrictions why this was never shown in the manga?
Uhm, Natsu got help from Lucy, Happy and Makarov and he would've died without them. Why was Natsu restricted? Jacob was restricted because he couldn't use his full power, which was Transport.
Makarov allowed Natsu to go all-out and he easily defeated Jacob once he did. Sure Lucy and Happy helped but like I said, Natsu only needed the help because he was heavily restricted within the guild.
They aren't as impressive as they were made out to be 200 chapters ago. I'm sure you can also agree on this (as you have before). Bluenote is not that far behind Jura and Natsu curbstomped him. Serenas hype is outdated. Laxus, Natsu and Jellal are stronger now.
He can use LFD to bypass Serena's resistance to Fire.Serena hasn't showed any lightning element so Natsu can use it to defeat God Serena.
Heavily restricted? Seriously? There is a difference between can not and did not. Natsu could use his stronger attacks but he didn't. That just shows that he underestimates the power level of a Spriggan. Natsu wasn't restricted at all.
Did I agree on that before?
You've got to be KIDDING me. So much speculation and assumption here. Power-up? dispelling wind/water is a possibliity but there's no confirmation that he can do that even if he can "melt the surrounding landscape". For all we know, the only reason he could burn Zeref's magic was due to Igneel's flames,not BASE FDKM.
After his many pitiful showings, Bluenote isn't close GMG Jura/Laxus level.
Natsu would have used his spells had he not been in the guild, therefore, the fight being in the guild heavily restricted him. Natsu underestimated no one, he knows how strong the Spriggan are, he simply did not want to wreck the guild with his wacked priorities.
Indeed its not, but when the top tier MC comes around and clearly shows far better feats then all the Saints and even Serena himself, you can't just peg him down due to saints outdated hype.
This is simply not true. His feats rival Juras and even using powerscaling, Bluenote was able to give Gildarts a solid fight before going down, which is exactly what Makarov deemed Jura capable of. GMG Jura and Bluenote are damn near equals in every sense of the word, current Jura might be a little better, but not a lot better.
It has never been stated, unless you mean prior to the time skip, in which case sure. He's stronger then the far weaker versions of those characters. Or unless you mean by Ajeel, who thought he could solo all of Ishgar by himself. Not the most reliable source.
It's logic. Here me out?
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A cut above him by what? They don't have to be above him in everything. Feats speak louder then words and the saints dropped at the same time as Jura from the same attacks, its not really up for debate. Warrod downright admits he can't even fight for his life, he is a support with large amounts of MP, likely downright weaker then Jura in actual combat (though the same durability/endurance). Wolfheim is likely superior to Jura in offence, but not by a whole lot since neither did anything to Serena. Hyberion is the only one who is likely well above the others in regards to offence, though he is still on the same level in durability and endurance, a glass canon if you will (vampires tend to be in fiction).
Your problem is that you are revolving your argument around probabilities, hiro does not have to be logical for his time skips, its his material and he could increase their PLs by as much as he wants when he wants. The popular term is power inflation, and it happens in every other manga in time skips (some authors, like kubo, go a step further and do power inflations in the same arc). Fact is that Natsu is clearly FAR stronger then GMG Laxus level. His basic roar alone dwarfs anything the latter has ever done (in GMG) and as if feat scaling is not enough he had Natsu one-shot Bluenote with said casual roar, whom for some reason you are assuming got weaker during the time skip, when nothing suggests it (in fact, I am being generous by not deeming him downright stronger since his feats are arguably even more impressive then they were on Tenrou).
