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There’s no need to put her in all his fights, off topic but I feel Hiro either doesn’t care about Gray as much or doesn’t know what to do with him
And how does this "focus" affect the plot in any way? If he's still contributing to the mission (and more than others) then how is it a problem that he'd need to leave for? Also Gray's only had 1 fight since Hakune and he didn't "depend on Juvia" for it. His enemy literally switched them and Gray still dealt the finishing blow in his own body.
So far a lot of his fights involve Juvia because Hiro has him fight those types of enemies
Only the last 3 but I get what you're saying. Seems to be a trend similar to how he mostly fights ice users, or people resistant to ice
If one of the main characters in a story has a different focus than the main plot, it could distract the reader or viewer's attention and make the mission feel confusing or disorganized. It could also make the plot feel less important or the story lose its cohesion and purpose. In short, it could be a problem of lack of coherence in the plot and character development.
He really fought one ice user in the series so far not including the original, I could be wrong but I think he only has five one screen fights so far, and three that involved Juvia either involved the other guild members, enemy that mess with his head and one that can switch his body/soul with someone or something else
Ah yes, Gray's feelings for Juvia is what makes the mission feel disorganized. Not the random interventions from diabolos. Or the field trip to elentear that didn't even have the main crew fight a DG. Or the flip flopping of Selene's personality. Or the forced injection of people not even on the quest....... ridiculous. There's a ton of reasons why the story isn't cohesive and Gray's feelings for Juvia doesn't even make the top 20.
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So like I said the last three. I was including the orignal series when I talked about the trend. Technically you can throw skullion and the monster cats in elentear into the category of resistant to ice. And the raijinshuu disabled his Ice altogether.
Madre mia hijo, Diabolos has been the best thing about this sequel, and it's simple, a rivalry can increase the tension and conflict in a plot, which can make the story more exciting and interesting for the reader or viewer. It can also provide a stronger motivation for the characters involved and add an extra layer of complexity to the story.Ah yes, Gray's feelings for Juvia is what makes the mission feel disorganized. Not the random interventions from diabolos. Or the field trip to elentear that didn't even have the main crew fight a DG. Or the flip flopping of Selene's personality. Or the forced injection of people not even on the quest....... ridiculous. There's a ton of reasons why the story isn't cohesive and Gray's feelings for Juvia doesn't even make the top 20.
I don't see you point. Gildarts wasn't the one that told Natsu the details of the mission. Everyone knew the mission existed just not the details. Elefseria was the one that explained that to the team. Where does Gildarts come in at all. He's not the one responsible for the mission. And Gildarts didn't tell Natsu anything about the mission. Natsu hasn't seen Gildarts since they left lol. Also you're absolutely delusional if you think Natsu could have beat Aldoron without help. Not even gonna entertain that idea.
Nothing they did in Aldo's arc really helped, defeating the seeds only made the main body stronger Are we reading the same series? Where on earth did you get the idea that the defeat of the God Seeds made Aldoron stronger?You read this and thought Aldoron got stronger?
When they were introduced is pretty irrelevant. The fact that they are a guild after dragon god power is the same which was the point you brought up for diabolos' importance.
Taking out 1 guy is supposed to be a bigger contribution than taking out 5 and beating a god seed? And where did you get the "attacking from behind" nonsense. They had a fight offscreen evident by the marks on Gray's body. He didn't just sneak up and knock them out.
Now you're being deliberately obtuse. I get it you don't like the character but at least come up with good arguments. Gray's devils slaying magic is capable of completely erasing demon factors. That's why Lucy currently isn't corrupted by the script from the book of END. It's not an air conditioner.
There are no demonic parts/portions, Natsu is a demon in his entirety. I disagree. His body was originally human and was modified so he could be revived. However the demon power remains dormant which wouldn't be the case if his entire being was demonic. There's also the case of his dragon powers that was transforming his body. He's not really "fully" anything and that's been alluded to twice in 100 yq
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So like I said the last three. I was including the orignal series when I talked about the trend. Technically you can throw skullion and the monster cats in elentear into the category of resistant to ice. And the raijinshuu disabled his Ice altogether.
Diabolos being the best thing about the sequel is a pretty funny opinion considering how random they've been. Georg sent Skullion and friends to fight dragon gods when the gap between even him and them is so vast. Hard to take clowns seriously and to me there have been many elements better than Diabolos. Gold owl being an alchemist guild is already more interesting because it expands the power system.Madre mia hijo, Diabolos has been the best thing about this sequel, and it's simple, a rivalry can increase the tension and conflict in a plot, which can make the story more exciting and interesting for the reader or viewer. It can also provide a stronger motivation for the characters involved and add an extra layer of complexity to the story.
So why does Mashima make abrupt changes with Selene and Elentir mean I have to be permissive with Juvia's moments? I've never said that Elentir is great or Selene, or that they don't have consistency issues, but this is a discussion of Gray, not elentir or selene.
Gildarts, was the one who told Natsu about the existence of the mission and that he should take it, from Tenrou, when Gildarts arrives and shows Natsu the results of fighting with the black dragon, from there, Gildarts begins to tell Natsu some small details.
I don't know, if you remember but Natsu defeated Aldo alone, he went through him with one blow
Lo que hay que leer hoy en día, Literally the Aldo seed, he said the seeds and orbs were to suppress Aldo's power. Defeating the seeds and orbs was equal to unleashing all of Aldo's power, in the end, Natsu only needed one hit to defeat the aldo seed, and the main body with much of his released power. Until here, Natsu solos
Yes, I reiterate to beat Laxus >>>>> beat metro, It doesn't matter that it was an offstage fight, the important thing was that Gray did it like a coward, there is no merit in that
It's inactive because the book was "never" opened, but the fact that we've already seen 2 transformations of Natsu, when the book was destroyed, means that Natsu is END in general, so he can "transform". The END/Natsu question is the same as the Theseus paradox. For me, Natsu, Zeref's brother, died a long time ago, our Natsu, is END, a demon created from the remains of the original Natsu, but it is END
beating laxus trumps everything gray has done from alvarez arc till date. only you see gray getting good treatment. like only you
If you don't understand the topic just say so. Laxus' defeat had nothing to do with the fall of Aldoron and Gray subdued more whited out FT members so by any metrics of contribution to the overall goals of the arc, Gray was higher. You like to fanboy over "feats" and power levels I get it. But it's not relevant to what's being discussed.
still does not change the fact that gray is irrelevant. You also like to feed off from natsu's feat as a gray fanboy. Like how you keep believing anything natsu does gray can do.
Ah yes he's irrelevant when he's part of the main crew and took down one of the pillars of Aldoron's strength which is the only reason Natsu could stand a fighting chance. Like how you keep believing anything natsu does gray can do. Because I don't live in a fantasy land where I think I know more about the story than the guy that writes it.
Your age is showing
Lol Erza double ko with laxus trumps anything gray has done from Alvarez till now
Sure.
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Can't debunk the scans I dropped? Only you refuse to believe gray is getting screwed over. It was so bad that someone on Reddit said Mira Erza alliance>>gray fight. Why would a fan ask mashima if gray seems weak if he's not getting screwed over? Every fight gray has won has involved gruvia. He's fat L haven't involved gruvia
What is there to debunk? You posted 2 scans that were irrelevant to the topic. I can post 2 scans of Erza getting beat or struggling with an opponent and it adds nothing to the topic. I've agreed that Gray's treatment hasn't been the best. You can look back at some of the chapter threads or even the thread I posted coping about Gray and Gajeel's potential role in the labyrinth arc before gold owl showed up. But my opinion on how a character is handled and the canon position they are in is completely different. Fact of the matter is that statements like "Gray is useless and irrelevant to the mission" or "Gray's distracted with Juvia and isn't focused on the mission" are objectively wrong given that he has been contributing to the mission and sometimes more than other members of the team. You can feel whatever way you want about his treatment and I have my own opinions about that, but let's not flat out deny canon events just because we don't like some characterization. Like the guy above is literally denying that Aldoron got nerfed just to try and say that Gray has no contributions to the quest.
off topic but it says Gildarts went on a century quest so was there more Than one at that time before Hiro changed his mind or just encased another one is added later, because if there was just one it would say the century questDiabolos being the best thing about the sequel is a pretty funny opinion considering how random they've been. Georg sent Skullion and friends to fight dragon gods when the gap between even him and them is so vast. Hard to take clowns seriously and to me there have been many elements better than Diabolos. Gold owl being an alchemist guild is already more interesting because it expands the power system.
Those things were to highlight the real glaring issues. Gray's love for Juvia is as much of a non issue to the overall plot as Erza's inability to write correctly.
This is the first mention of the 100 years quest and it was Mira explaining it to Lucy. Everyone in the guild and most mages know about the existence of the 100 years quest. They just don't know what the objective is. And Gildarts never explained to Natsu the details of the quest nor did he give the quest to Natsu.
Is there a problem with your reading comprehension? How does Natsu saying"You've got less magic" equate to Aldoron gaining more magic to you? The god seeds and the orbs were meant to help CONTROL the magic power. as they were defeated Aldoron lost control of the power and thus had less. It literally says this right there in the pages I posted. How you can get this so backwards is beyond me. Aldoron was nerfed to the ground and that's why Natsu could stand a chance against him.
No beating Laxus played no part in the defeat of Aldoron. And Gray took out 5 of the possessed FT members while Erza only took out one.
The opening of the book has nothing to do with it I think. If Zeref could have awakened END by just opening the book, he would have done it a long time ago. The book just served as a link between Natsu and Zeref. That link has been broken but I'm not sure how that's affected his nature. From what we know, the current Natsu isn't a different being than the one that died in the dragon attack. All Zeref did was use his experiments to revive Natsu. That's why in Natsu's subconscious he still has memories from before the dragon attack. And he also has parts of him that are of a dragon as an inherent trait of DS magic. Probably even more than the other slayers since the demon seed seemed to have reactivated and progressed the dragon seed a bit as well.
It's likely a translation assumption. Since she was comparing them to S class quests and there are many of those, the translator probably assumed that she was describing a class of quests and not a singular quest.
You’re probably right but if there is more than one I wonder what they would be
