Fantasy Jellal vs Misaki

[WoWfan]

Jellal uses blood thirsty Grand Chariot and that ends her

 

[Jko]

Don't know how y'all are comparing Erza to Jellal when she beat two people stronger than God Serena back to back with less difficulty.

Misaki wins. She almost defeated an enraged Erza and would have gone to a stalemate had it not been for Wendy. Jellal can't overcome her hax. He has nothing to say he has more mp than her. He is not shrugging off Blumenblatt like Misaki did.

His barrier is useless too. Shit has not blocked anything above a half dead Wendy killing attack lmao.

There is also no reason to believe he can even move whilst under Blue Dimension nor does he have an attack that scales to Meteor Blade.

 

[WoWfan]

Don't know how y'all are comparing Erza to Jellal when she beat two people stronger than God Serena back to back with less difficulty.

Misaki wins. She almost defeated an enraged Erza and would have gone to a stalemate had it not been for Wendy. Jellal can't overcome her hax. He has nothing to say he has more mp than her. He is not shrugging off Blumenblatt like Misaki did.

His barrier is useless too. Shit has not blocked anything above a half dead Wendy killing attack lmao.

There is also no reason to believe he can even move whilst under Blue Dimension nor does he have an attack that scales to Meteor Blade.

To be fair, those two’s stats are not tied to their power unlike wizards. He could technically use meteor as it is moving him.

 

[Axiomus]

Jellal's barrier blocked an attack from Acnologia. Blue Stream wouldnt kill Wendy.

Erza adapted the telekinesis over her swords to affect her armour, and that allowed her to move in blue dimension. I really dont see why meteor wont allow Jellal to move in blue dimension.

Meteor blade is literally just Jellal's meteor enchanted onto Armadura Fairy. Unless you think Jellal is weaker than Armadura Fairy, then I really dont see why Jellal cant replicate this.

Duke has the exact same hype as the Signario Sisters. Natsu beat him with just lightning, which is like half of LFD. God Serena stomped ISD Gajeel. Clearly God Serena is a better physical combatant than Duke. At the end of the day, we dont know why God Serena put the Duke and Signario Sisters on a pedastal. I mean, God Serena also thought he was stronger than Gildarts too. So grain of salt.

 

[WoWfan]

By hax, not power basically

 

[Jko]

To be fair, those two’s stats are not tied to their power unlike wizards. He could technically use meteor as it is moving him.

Except one of the sisters was a battle type so her power would be far above Serena.

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Blue sreeam almost KOed Erza but won't ko a half dead Alvarez Wendy. Lmao, cope.

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Jellal never used Meteor blade. She just his magic type and ceeated her own spell backed by yer own mp with it. No reason to assume Jellal can replicate that attack or its ap.

His lightning powers alone are just better than lfd lol. Makes no sense but that is how Mashima wrote it. Yup, but it shows that GS would be truthful in his statement. Even if you argue Duke and Luso are above bcs of hax. Ennie is a straight up combatant so she would physically scale above GS.

 

[WoWfan]

Except one of the sisters was a battle type so her power would be far above Serena.

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Blue sreeam almost KOed Erza but won't ko a half dead Alvarez Wendy. Lmao, cope.

Sure though she needed her armor for that. What about Wendy?

 

[Ratrace]

Duke has the exact same hype as the Signario Sisters. Natsu beat him with just lightning, which is like half of LFD. God Serena stomped ISD Gajeel. Clearly God Serena is a better physical combatant than Duke. At the end of the day, we dont know why God Serena put the Duke and Signario Sisters on a pedastal. I mean, God Serena also thought he was stronger than Gildarts too. So grain of salt.

Duke also saw Natsu use LFD so did he forget (which does seem like it) or thought he took away both powers at once

 

[Axiomus]

Except one of the sisters was a battle type so her power would be far above Serena.

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Blue sreeam almost KOed Erza but won't ko a half dead Alvarez Wendy. Lmao, cope.

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Jellal never used Meteor blade. She just his magic type and ceeated her own spell backed by yer own mp with it. No reason to assume Jellal can replicate that attack or its ap.

His lightning powers alone are just better than lfd lol. Makes no sense but that is how Mashima wrote it. Yup, but it shows that GS would be truthful in his statement. Even if you argue Duke and Luso are above bcs of hax. Ennie is a straight up combatant so she would physically scale above GS.

Blue Stream didnt KO Erza. Erza tanked the actual hit without much issue. It was only after it's damage was amplified by the effects of leaving blue dimension that Erza took serious damage. The last time Misaki tried to hit Erza with blue stream, Erza just blocked it. Blue stream might knock out Wendy, if it hits her. But what it isnt doing is smashing past the shield Jellal used to block one of Acno's attack and dealing significant damage.

Meteor blade is just meteor enchanted on Armadura Fairy. Jellal can use meteor by himself. Unless you think that Jellal's other attacks cant rival Amadura Fairy, there's really no reason Jellal cant replicate the damage Erza is doing.

If it make no sense how lightning on its own is stronger than LFD, why should we believe it? As opposed to simply believing that Duke isnt as strong as God Serena? Here's another thing to consider. Duke and the Signario Sisters dont even use magic. We dont know if their MP levels are even impressive. None of their powers involve physically enhancing their bodies either. God Serena may have drank the coolaid about alchemy being better than magic and just rolled with it.

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Duke also saw Natsu use LFD so did he forget (which does seem like it) or thought he took away both powers at once

No clue. Either interpretation works.

 

[MangerDan]

Duke also saw Natsu use LFD so did he forget (which does seem like it) or thought he took away both powers at once

Well to be fair I don’t think Mages with different kinds of magics have different kinds of magic power inside them, so him believing he took Natsu’s power makes sense. He just didn’t expect for Natsu to still have some of Laxus’s left over magic power from Tenrou.

 

[Jko]

Blue Stream didnt KO Erza. Erza tanked the actual hit without much issue. It was only after it's damage was amplified by the effects of leaving blue dimension that Erza took serious damage. The last time Misaki tried to hit Erza with blue stream, Erza just blocked it. Blue stream might knock out Wendy, if it hits her. But what it isnt doing is smashing past the shield Jellal used to block one of Acno's attack and dealing significant damage.

Meteor blade is just meteor enchanted on Armadura Fairy. Jellal can use meteor by himself. Unless you think that Jellal's other attacks cant rival Amadura Fairy, there's really no reason Jellal cant replicate the damage Erza is doing.

If it make no sense how lightning on its own is stronger than LFD, why should we believe it? As opposed to simply believing that Duke isnt as strong as God Serena? Here's another thing to consider. Duke and the Signario Sisters dont even use magic. We dont know if their MP levels are even impressive. None of their powers involve physically enhancing their bodies either. God Serena may have drank the coolaid about alchemy being better than magic and just rolled with it.

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No clue. Either interpretation works.

An attack that was weaker than the one Cobra tanked. The barrier has blocked no significant attack since. Not only that but she can just have blue stream appear behind him since she can produce attacks from all around. Plus her physical strength > Blumenblatt which fodders that barrier. Lucy has better dura feats than that barrier does if we take tanking a fodder shot from a God tier as an exceptional feat.

Jellal doesn't have the feats that says he can replicate the level of damage meteor blade caused. Meteor blade itself isn't just using Jellal's magic type either, it is also factoring both Erza's physical strength and her mp as well. Jellal's physical nor magical ability have yet to be proven to be on Erza's level. He struggled with God Serena alone. Erza beat two people who God Serena himself stated he doesn't even come close to with less effort.

Half the stuff Mashima has done in the series makes no sense. Somehow Natsu imbued with the power of legit fodder (in regards to God tiers) is able to amp him to God tier levels. Natsu's lfd struggled with Gajeel's isd and underperformed against Duke in R1 yet Natsu with lightning alone shown better feats than it by besting Duke. GS is too arrogant to simply believe someone is stronger than him without proof of such. Clearly they took him down a peg by outright beating him. Enny herself isn't even reliant on her hax.

 

[Ratrace]

Well to be fair I don’t think Mages with different kinds of magics have different kinds of magic power inside them, so him believing he took Natsu’s power makes sense. He just didn’t expect for Natsu to still have some of Laxus’s left over magic power from Tenrou.

That would make sense if he thought he took away both powers at once

 

[MangerDan]

That would make sense if he thought he took away both powers at once

Keep in mind Natsu was only able to use lightning dragon magic, because he had left over magic from Laxus. Anyone else that knows different types of magics like Jellal for example would still be screwed.

 

[Ratrace]

Keep in mind Natsu was only able to use lightning dragon magic, because he had left over magic from Laxus. Anyone else that knows different types of magics like Jellal for example would still be screwed.

So far the only ones that are not screwed are dragon slayers with more than one magic. Has Natsu ever used lightning by itself before this because it would have been useful against someone like Mercphobia

 

[MangerDan]

So far the only ones that are not screwed are dragon slayers with more than one magic. Has Natsu ever used lightning by itself before this because it would have been useful against someone like Mercphobia

No they still are unless they still have some of the magic they ate to gain the other magic left over.

 

[Ratrace]

No they still are unless they still have some of the magic they ate to gain the other magic left over.

If Natsu can do it I don’t see why characters like Sting and Gejeel can’t as well because like Natsu they’re using two DS magic and they’re still using it

 

[MangerDan]

If Natsu can do it I don’t see why characters like Sting and Gejeel can’t as well because like Natsu they’re using two DS magic and they’re still using it

They’re using two DS magic, but they’re all using their own magic power for both elements. Natsu could only do it, because Mashima retconned that Natsu used up all of Laxus’s MP back in Tenrou. To answer your question about if he has used both elements separately he technically did during the Hades fight.

 

[WoWfan]

If Natsu can do it I don’t see why characters like Sting and Gejeel can’t as well because like Natsu they’re using two DS magic and they’re still using it

Gajeel could use shadow on his own without going into dual element mode.

 

[Ratrace]

They’re using two DS magic, but they’re all using their own magic power for both elements. Natsu could only do it, because Mashima retconned that Natsu used up all of Laxus’s MP back in Tenrou.

so basically there’s some BS involve if what you say is true

 

[MangerDan]

so basically there’s some BS involve if what you say is true

Pretty much yeah the BS is him still having some of Laxus’s MP even though he used it all up in the Hades fight, and the other is how fast his MP recovered.