Games Mafia Game 109 - Street Fighter III 3rd Strike - End Game

[Shad]

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Day 1 and Day 2

Day 3 and Day 4

 

[MArGi]

Congrats Mafia!!!

Thank you again @Shad for the game, it was nice to play a smaller game, even though it was short ahah

 

[Demonspeed]

So I have zero winrate in this game…noice

You only played twice though so it's not that bad. But if you don't get a W in 5 games...

 

[GrySun]

So I have zero winrate in this game…noice

I lost 7 in a row until my first win You‘re still fine.

 

[Baka Taichou]

lol, looks like gry I was half right with my theory on asako D2 and you were right to start distrusting her.

Holt, I am disappoint.

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also asako it wasn't just you I was referring to, there was a recent example for the same situation with detective i think new player forgot who (was it wojak?)

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anyway, vanilla game was interesting and fun at the same time, thank you shad for hosting. And Smol games I think are ok, I liked it precisely because there was not much talk so not too much to analyze and retain and get headaches from.

Also Mary thank you for the lovely avatars didn't realize they were animated till like D2 XD


i'll try to stick to my initial intuitions and not let myself overthink too much in future games

 

[Baka Taichou]

Actions Sheets

Day 1 and Day 2

Day 3 and Day 4

so we were right on gajeel guilty and james innocent, makes sense, I wish you'd have tried confirming asako on N1 gry....just because she followed along i think it would have been the best solution to go for her to confirm her

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ah lol how stupid i already posted a comment xD

 

[Shad]

Thanks.

Thank you all players for joining me on my first solo hosting experience.
I really appreciate that you were all super friendly and nice to each other.
Your fair-play and handling of stressful situations was a highlight of the game.

Congratulation to mafia for their victory, I couldn't have asked for a better team to control Gill, Fire (Gaajel) and Ice (Asako).
Special commend to @Asako for getting 0 votes, being best town and best mafia at the same time :3

Thank you @Maryxxi for the back up, the avatars you made were so cool, I had to level up everything else to try and match it

And finally thanks to all the advisors, especially @Lambu and @Vandred, who invested time to think about the game and the balance, and use this opportunity to teach, without them it would have looked nothing like it did, also thank you @Crescent Jinx <3

Mechanic.

Mechanic was inspired from my favorite gameplay mechanic in SFIII, the parry system.
It evolved a lot since I first started working on it, the Red Parry is actually just part of Parry, but I gave it a name to make it easier to distinguish.
The Ex Move, was added 1 day before start, to compensate for mafia losing a member (Rookie) that was supposed to keep them functional even with an unlucky D1 lynch, as a side effect, it also made the mechanic relevant as it gave town an opportunity to use Parry once they lynch a mafia.

Mafia is more fun for me when it is meant to be played as a team, so as this was a small game and nobody is expecting Lovers I decided to go all in on team.
Mafia players are under more stress than town, they need more mental fortitude to not break, they put in more hours and are the main distractions for all the players, without the mafia, they would be no game to play for the majority of town, with a good mafia, the game is fun and memorable. so they deserve some quality of life improvement, like not balancing the game in a way that makes mafia miserable under some circumstances (ex: D1 lynched escort, now detective is immortal, good luck!).

I may have overdone it tho, will need feedback on how strong this was.

It would take too long to discuss every detail.

Some objectives were:
- Encourage players to guess other's actions
- Reward players for playing well, win more.
- Entertain the host
- Something to do for passives.
- Give a sense of control over one's destiny, there is maybe always something you can do about a kill/block/investigation.

Some balance hurtle:
- Avoid situations were a mafia will be perma-blocked (perma-stunned ), by giving mafia Poisoner.
- Avoid mechanic nerfing Kills, in this case I made red parry a full counter to Parry, buffing actives at the expense of passives.
- Not enough players to introduce more offensive active roles on town side, to punish mafia's Red Parry actions and make Parry useful again.

Anything that could distract from the core concept was removed, no recruitables, no death miller, no hidden roles, no secondary roles (and sadly no temp roles sorry James).

Future.

Maybe one day I can improve on it.
Meanwhile time for my planned Hiatus.

We Await Your Return, Warrior!

 

[GrySun]

so we were right on gajeel guilty and james innocent, makes sense, I wish you'd have tried confirming asako on N1 gry....just because she followed along i think it would have been the best solution to go for her to confirm her

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ah lol how stupid i already posted a comment xD

And I wish you didn‘t just tunnel on Holt last day

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Meanwhile time for my planned Hiatus for next 2 games

No no you must play, we have to reward you for the hosting

 

[Shad]

No no you must play, we have to reward you for the hosting

I had a lot of fun, that was reward enough
Time for me to take my rest

 

[Holt]

Holt, I am disappoint.

Likewise XD

 

[Raven]

MVP of this game is @Asako


Killing Grysun is #1 priority in every game. Can be good for both Mafias and Townies

 

[Baka Taichou]

And I wish you didn‘t just tunnel on Holt last day

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No no you must play, we have to reward you for the hosting

like you wouldn't have focused on him if you were still alive ))

Like, why didn't you go for holt in the prev night when you died (not that we'd have known since you died), why go for me, when you sused him? To confirm me? Why not confirm Asako?

you went and investigated me, not holt, not even asako, ME, as usual )) I'm always sus to you, even though I'm 90% of the time town XD, even though you all said how pro town I'm looking this game, doesn't that say sth about the way you perceive me?

Likewise XD

for what, besides you picking at straws trying to make me the scum?

 

[GrySun]

like you wouldn't have focused on him if you were still alive ))

Like, why didn't you go for holt in the prev night when you died (not that we'd have known since you died), why go for me, when you sused him? To confirm me? Why not confirm Asako?

you went and investigated me, not holt, not even asako, ME, as usual )) I'm always sus to you, even though I'm 90% of the time town XD, even though you all said how pro town I'm looking this game, doesn't that say sth about the way you perceive me?



for what, besides you picking at straws trying to make me the scum?

I really didn‘t want to argue about the playing postgame but you started it so:

1. Excluding any Det results, I‘d lynch you over Holt easily last day. Your first post was insta vote, saying you won‘t argue, + all the things you did with Gajeel can easily be seen in a bad light. Vs Holt who was arguing very nicely and his points made sense, and his interactions with Gajeel were more town than yours.

2. I didn‘t sus Holt. During Day 3 yes, but in my talks with Holt he convinced me he was town, why I said many times „guys focus on Baka vs Asako next day“ yet you ignored me despite dying as Det. You could‘ve solved this easily because you knew you were town so it had to be Asako. Instead you think it‘s Holt despite how unlikely that is.

3. It didn‘t matter who I actually investigate last night. If I survived and didn‘t get blocked, I‘d have James as town and a result on one of holt/baka/asako, and mafia would‘ve killed one of holt/baka/asako. I‘d have results on all remaining living players. Town on you means asako is mafia, town on asako means you are mafia. Same thing.

4. You are sus because you act sus, far too much of what you say is shady. I trusted you all game but started doubting you when you were ominously saying „I think I know who the det is ))“ after I talked too much positively about James. But I only truly distrusted you from your impatient-mafia sounding posts in last day when I was dead and spectating(+ Shad not telling me my result on you).
Not a perception thing, the stuff Holt pointed out about your actions around the Gajeel lynch would sound scum to 99% of mafia players.

Idk why you are blaming others after it wasn‘t even you who got lynched last day but you lynching a townie.

 

[Baka Taichou]

))))))))

indeed

 

[wojak]

Killing Grysun is #1 priority in every game. Can be good for both Mafias and Townies

What if doc/body protects him?

All roles should be used on him in night 1. Mafia kills him, town doc protects him, hoe blocks him, det investigates him, apprentice learns from him. Would be a fruitful night.

 

[Raven]

What if doc/body protects him?

All roles should be used on him in night 1. Mafia kills him, town doc protects him, hoe blocks him, det investigates him, apprentice learns from him. Would be a fruitful night.

Or D1 Lynch.

 

[Baka Taichou]

What if doc/body protects him?

All roles should be used on him in night 1. Mafia kills him, town doc protects him, hoe blocks him, det investigates him, apprentice learns from him. Would be a fruitful night.

so, who among gry's visitors last night was the most satisfied customer? XDDDDDDD

 

[Hardy]

Last time I checked stats, mafia loses more by blindly killing Gry early.

Stats say you should blindly kill @Copy Panda instead.

 

[Copy Panda]

Last time I checked stats, mafia loses more by blindly killing Gry early.

Stats say you should blindly kill @Copy Panda instead.

Wha- why is this bear catching strays

 

[Demonspeed]

Last time I checked stats, mafia loses more by blindly killing Gry early.

Stats say you should blindly kill @Copy Panda instead.

I agree with this.