Round of 16 Natsu Dragneel vs Wolfheim

[Kiki]

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Natsu Dragneel

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Discussion will end on: June 1st, 2016
Voting will end on: June 2nd, 2016​

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[Brandish μ]

Natsu, rather easily.

 

[BluePegasus]

Interesting fight.

We have Wolfheim who holds the title of being a God of Ishgar, who are without a doubt extremely skilled wizards in Ishgar. And we have Natsu who probably is the most powerful Dragon Slayer thanks to his many power-ups.

I'd give this fight to Natsu high diff, thanks to Fire Dragon King Mode. He won't solo him in his base form though, since Wolfheim's attack and durability must be pretty high.

 

[uberfayt]

Wolfheim has obviously more experience so he should be worthy of his title of God of Ishgar. However, Natsu is on a different league of his own now and I believe he will win (with some diff). It all comes down to how much damage Wolfheim's magic deals to Natsu and how well he's tanking it. But I still go with Natsu as the winner.

 

[Kay3795]

High diff my foot! Natsu schools him within a few seconds. Neg diff!

 

[SirSamuel016]

Natsu takes this out fairly easily. Wolfheim would probably make Natsu work a little in Base Mode, but if he pulls out LFD, FDKM or DF its almost overkill tbh. The only thing Wolfheim has going for him is God of Ishgar hype and getting swept by God Serena, whereas Natsu has had a major part in defeating a Spriggan.

 

[Stormsfury]

Stomp thread
Natsu Dragneel takes this.

 

[Takuan]

I'd say Natsu wins this, mid diff. Wolfheim's beast form seems good in terms of durability and power, but other than that he seems lackluster compared too Natsu's kit. This 1v1 should be really easy to determine

 

[Arjuna]

Natsu one shots Wolfheim.The same attack that took out Jacob will one shot Wolfheim.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Natsu curb stomp no way he's going to struggling against him lol natsu is too strong

 

[Shoutmon]

Natsu uber-stomps

 

[BluePegasus]

Seems that Natsu is pretty overrated again.

Sure, he'd win this fight. But he will never fodderize one of the Gods of Ishgar, who are supposed to be so strong that they shouldn't be considered as humans. In other words, they must be stronger than any other Wizard Saint. Natsu will never low diff Jura or Makarov. Fact is, Wolfheim is supposed to be (a lot) stronger than them.

I think the Gods of Ishgar are massively underrated here. They were defeated by God Serena, but they weren't fodderized. They had a chance to counter attack plus they survived many of his spells.

I'd say Wolfheim would give Natsu a high diff fight to say at least. Not by hype, but by these feats:

1). He is the third ranked God of Ishgar, which means he is supposed to be stronger than Jura and Makarov.

2). His Take-Over, which should be around ten times more powerful than Elfman's Beast Soul. This seems obvious because the size of his Take-Over is huge.

Spoiler

Not to mention that Natsu is taller than Warrod. Natsu will never have a chance to oneshot Wolfheim in his Take-Over Soul.

3). The feats he has once he is in his Take-Over Soul.

- His durability must be high (judging by his size).
- His defense must be high (judging by his size).
- His attack.

Spoiler

4). He survived many of God Serena's spells, which should be around FDKM Natsu's spells.

5). He could dodge Base Natsu's attacks. I don't think this would be a major factor though.

Spoiler

Wolfheim shouldn't be underestimated like this. He is still one of the Gods of Ishgar, who were extremely hyped throughout the series.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

For Natsu Dragneel vs Wolfheim, the match will be quite easy to determine the winner...

• Natsu > Wolfheim [Medium Difficulty]

Honestly, Natsu has such a wide spectrum of power that he can't possibly lose this. In base form, he would have Medium-High Difficulty. But in Fire Dragon King Mode or Dragon Force, he would have Low-Medium Difficulty. Therefore, I would rate this overall fight, Medium-Difficulty.

• Attack: Natsu > Wolfheim
• Defense: Natsu ≥ Wolfheim
• Speed: Natsu ≤ Wolfheim
• Versatility: Natsu = Wolfheim
• Intelligence: Natsu < Wolfheim
• MP: Natsu > Wolfheim

There really is much else to say. The winner is definitely Natsu. One-Shot? No. Unless you're exaggerating, the only ones that can be one-shotted are fodders (not Wolfheim). He has decent durability (not offense) and is stronger than Bluenote.

 

[Shoutmon]

Seems that Natsu is pretty overrated again.

Sure, he'd win this fight. But he will never fodderize one of the Gods of Ishgar, who are supposed to be so strong that they shouldn't be considered as humans. In other words, they must be stronger than any other Wizard Saint. Natsu will never low diff Jura or Makarov. Fact is, Wolfheim is supposed to be (a lot) stronger than them.

I think the Gods of Ishgar are massively underrated here. They were defeated by God Serena, but they weren't fodderized. They had a chance to counter attack plus they survived many of his spells.

I'd say Wolfheim would give Natsu a high diff fight to say at least. Not by hype, but by these feats:

1). He is the third ranked God of Ishgar, which means he is supposed to be stronger than Jura and Makarov.

2). His Take-Over, which should be around ten times more powerful than Elfman's Beast Soul. This seems obvious because the size of his Take-Over is huge.

Spoiler

Not to mention that Natsu is taller than Warrod. Natsu will never have a chance to oneshot Wolfheim in his Take-Over Soul.

3). The feats he has once he is in his Take-Over Soul.

- His durability must be high (judging by his size).
- His defense must be high (judging by his size).
- His attack.

Spoiler

4). He survived many of God Serena's spells, which should be around FDKM Natsu's spells.

5). He could dodge Base Natsu's attacks. I don't think this would be a major factor though.

Spoiler

Wolfheim shouldn't be underestimated like this. He is still one of the Gods of Ishgar, who were extremely hyped throughout the series.

First of all, Natsu likely can low diff Makarov and Jura if he's serious.

Second of all, Ikusatsunagi eclipses Wolfheim when it comes to size, so thus:

- Its durability must be higher (judging by its size).
- Its defense must be higher (judging by its size).

Yet it only took 1 FDK spell to take it out, so Wolfheim will meet the same fate.

Not to mention that Natsu is taller than Warrod. Natsu will never have a chance to oneshot Wolfheim in his Take-Over Soul.

While Natsu might have some trouble hitting Wolfheim with FDK demolition fist, FDK Roar is a good alternative.

4). He survived many of God Serena's spells, which should be around FDKM Natsu's spells.

Proof?

 

[The President]

Natsu curbstomps Wolfheim as easily as he did Bluenote. As far as durability and endurance goes, Wolfheim is fairly similar to Jura. Bluenote is also not that far below Jura in those two traits, if at all. Natsus casual roar would roast Wolfheim. Even in pure physical strength Wolfheim hardly moved a Serena who did not even have any footing while Natsu was able to send Ajeel a way back despite Ajeel having actual footing and stance. Not to mention, the former did not injure Serena while the latter gave Ajeel a bruise. Natsu has Wolfheim beat in every single way bar maybe the intelligence department, but even that is just assuming based on the fact that Wolfheim looks old and has glasses.

 

[Holt]

Wolheim can put up a good fight against base Natsu. He might even be stronger than him physically and thus have the advantage but if Natsu uses FD attacks, it's a whole different story. Natsu can probably take Wolfhein in Base with high diff but even if that debatable, FDKM would be overwhelming

 

[Nemispelled]

Natsu Dragneel fodderizes Wolfheim.


I guess that's why the polls aren't hidden for this battle??

 

[Crimson Ice]

Natsu wins in base.

 

[Arjuna]

If Natsu can basically one shot a Spriggan when he fought without restraints so there is no reason why he can't one shot a fighter who is below a Spriggan level.

 

[BluePegasus]

First of all, Natsu likely can low diff Makarov and Jura if he's serious.

Seriously?

No matter, Wolfheim is still (much) stronger than them.

Second of all, Ikusatsunagi eclipses Wolfheim when it comes to size, so thus:

- Its durability must be higher (judging by its size).
- Its defense must be higher (judging by its size).

Yet it only took 1 FDK spell to take it out, so Wolfheim will meet the same fate.

Ikasutsunagi has zero speed. He won't be able to dodge Natsu's attacks, Wolfheim will.

While Natsu might have some trouble hitting Wolfheim with FDK demolition fist, FDK Roar is a good alternative.

FDK Roar took fodders out. Wolfheim is absolutely not fodder.

Proof?

Just read the chapter again. God Serena used more than three spells and they were still breathing after that.

If Natsu can basically one shot a Spriggan when he fought without restraints so there is no reason why he can't one shot a fighter who is below a Spriggan level.

When did Natsu oneshot a Spriggan?