Fantasy Natsu vs Eileen

[Vis]

DF Natsu stomps everything that's not a god dragon. You have to beat him with a gimmick before he gets serious.

Was just thinking about this then I saw your post right above mine lol.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 17, 2020, Original Post Date: Oct 17, 2020 ---

+ Igneel and maybe parent dragons.

I included Igneel and no, parent dragons didn’t do anything to warrant that much respect.

 

[LaGOAT]

Current natsu? solo both irene and August he will just play around with them for a lil while be4 he get serious

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Natsu murders

 

[WoWfan]

Irene and team should take this

 

[Garmadooon]

Natsu solo stomps with Dragon Force. He defeated the dragon Animus, Nerfed Aldoron Nerfed Dogramag matched Zeref and tanked spells that can shoot the dragon Irene. Erza wouldn't have lasted a second against Zeref considering her shitty performances against Neinhart and Ajeel.

People shouldn't underestimate Natsu's strenght durability when he's serious and determined to protect the guild he really is the strongest. He was already shooting Spriggans at Alvarez and Gray was no match for him and Erza was never stronger than him.

 

[Darklord#10]

Natsu wins everything

R1:
FDKM Natsu defeats human Eileen (high diff) and dragon Eileen (Erza treatment).
If anyone think FDKM won't do the trick, he can always pull up DF and straight up stomp

R2:
DF Natsu stomps both. Don't need Erza.
x792 DF Natsu overwhelmed base Zeref and vapourized FH Zeref one time with his full power attack. x793 DF Natsu destroyed nerfed Aldoron. He should have no trouble defeating these two, who are below base Zeref.

I'm not sure if Spriggans are getting wanked, or Plotsu is getting downplayed or both. Once Natsu goes DF, you can add 2 more Eileens and Augusts and Natsu still wins

It's just Ronin downplaying natsu's accomplishments like he usually does. I seriously can't believe this

 

[WoWfan]

At his pinn Natsu wins

 

[Mimi0207]

Natsu easily wins all rounds. He beat nerfed DG who are stronger than Irene and August reunited.

 

[WoWfan]

Natsu easily wins all rounds. He beat nerfed DG who are stronger than Irene and August reunited.

A Persona Irene can affect a Human form DG, only happens when one’s MP is greater. If it is Savage Flames than yeah Natsu wins

 

[Axiomus]

It's not true that you need higher MP to affect a dragon god. Faris' white out affected Mercphobia. Natsu blasted a hole in Aldoron despite having less MP. Suzaku defeated Selene's human form despite having less MP. Wendy is able to cast separation enchantment on Viernes soul and put him in athena II despite both being more powerful than her. In the case of Irene and Selene, they weren't even fighting.

Natsu doesnt have higher MP than Irene anyways. He just hits hard enough to erase her. Alvarez arc DF Natsu would vaporize Irene the same way he did Zeref. 100YQ DF Natsu would erase Irene and everyone unfortunate to be standing behind her within the diameter of a city, unless their names are Ignia, Igneel, or Acnologia.

 

[WoWfan]

I didn’t say dragon god, I said one’s MP. Also less MP? Natsu’s power would be above that of Nerf Aldoron with DF. Selene let Suzaku win so she could get to his master. Athena was made to defeat Dragons so that counters that affect. Selene was against it though which would negate the enchantment, but didn’t because power MP difference. He has to as MP equals stats. Zeref basically let him vaporize him just to show how pointless Natsu’s efforts were. Base Zeref knocked back DF Natsu.

 

[Axiomus]

Then that's even easier to debunk. You dont need to have higher MP for your magic to work on people. Wendy has enchanted all of team Natsu, despite not having MP on any of their level. She's enchanted everyone with a dragon slaying seal. She's taken everyone's MP. She's even used deus zero to stop Irene's deus zero. Irene being able to enchant Selene's wound unto herself has nothing to do with magic power. If anything, it just scales Irene's durability below Selene's because Irene died shortly after from that wound.

Natsu doesnt have higher MP than Aldoron, even after the nerf. What made his attack so strong was the fact that his fire had properties from Igneel, Ignia and Atlas Flame's fire. This fire is superior to Igneel's fire, which he used moments earlier to burn away Aldoron's thorns and fight Aldoron. Natsu's MP didnt dramatically increase for his final attack. He used a stronger fire. Besides, a nerfed Aldoron is still steonger than Irene. The main god seed is stronger than all the other god seeds, and the Wolfen god seed has power that eclipses Zeref and Gildarts.

Anyways, DF Natsu erases Irene. Zeref is immortal and has the ability to rewind time to undo damage. Irene doesnt. When Natsu vaporizes her, she just dies lol.

 

[WoWfan]

They are not against it though as they are allies so the MP difference doesn’t matter. Irene was not even serious at that point which makes sense as she could blitz Erza before she could react when Irene is close to her. Besides she said that wound won’t be enough to kill her because of her magic power is enormous and required her to be sent to a world without magic. Savage Flames is Natsu’s max power which Irene can’t handle. Zeref was just flexing and showing how pointless it was for Natsu

 

[Axiomus]

So are Selene and Irene.

No. That wound would have killed her, and did kill her. Irene said that she needed to be sent to a world without magic, because her magic power is so great that she would enchant herself unto to someone else. She says she would most likely die, and take that person down with her. They sent her to a world without magic so only she would die.

Nobody is talking about savage flames, which is just FDK brought to it's full potential with Flames of Emotion. Natsu's feats with DF are enough.

 

[WoWfan]

Maybe but not willing to take it as Selene was against it No, it only killed her once she is sent to Edolas, that is the point. Her power was enormous that it would send the wound to another and that she would die as a result of that person dying, that was the point she said that it would not be all the way. At the highest temperature there is to break physics. We don’t know where DF scales since he never fought any Spriggan with it and Zeref countered if

 

[Axiomus]

Selene wasn't against it. She didn't know what Irene was doing. Besides, Irene didn't enchant anything unto Irene. She separated the curse of the dragon's wound from Selene, and enchanted upon herself. This is hardly a combat feat. In fact, it's completely useless. She can only enchant the wound upon herself, or the body she is inhabiting. Meaning it has no practical application in combat.

Irene was afraid that she would enchant herself unto some innocent person, "wound" and all, and they would both die. She wanted to die alone, so Selene sent her off to Edolas, and the wound killed her there.

Natsu was stomping Spriggans without DF. Zeref countered DF by (1) being immortal and (2) rewinding time. Anyone who isn't immortal is simply dead when they get vaporized.

 

[WoWfan]

She was as she said “hold on!” Or “putt it on someone else” would show anyone she was against it and her life is connected, that makes no reason for not being able to deny Irene if she had greater power, awareness is inconsequential if one can overcome it with MP. She said she is temporarily separated from Wendy, combat means nothing as an enchantment still works on someone weaker than Irene because her power is too great that it would get enchanted, nothing about conscious effort. And Natsu used FDK powers for his fight and in a straight fight he was stopped. No, blasted DF Natsu with base Zeref’s magic.

 

[WoWfan]

good thing Darklord is naturally wrong since that is how Enchantments work, with greater MP works on those against them.

Mavis never used FH at all, otherwise she would assume the form akin to Zeref’s with using FH, like in the video game which Hiro was involved with.

Wendy was using an item which is connected to Athena on a being who is a concept or will, not his original form which is lost long ago, so that debunks your point

 

[Axiomus]

You can use enchantment on people with more MP than you. Wendy does it all the time. She's taken Laxus' power and put it into Natsu. She's used separation enchantment on Faris when Faris had the MP of the entire FT guild. She's used enchantments to cancel Irene's. She's separated Viernes from the building against his will, and placed him into Athena. Irene is enchanting herself with Selene's wounds to save her. It's not even like Selene tried to use any magic to stop Irene. This is not a combat feat, and doesn't scale to anything. The wound killed Irene anyways. She didn't want to go to a world with magic power because she might accidentally enchant herself unto someone innocent, and they would both die. Selene sent Irene to Edolas to die alone.

Anyways, pretending that Irene has more MP than Selene isn't gonna save her from Natsu. Zeref had infinite magic when Natsu vaporized his body. Unlike Zeref, Irene isn't immortal. She's dead once he vaporizes her.

I don't even know what you're trying to argue with the Spriggans. Natsu stomped Neinhart in base. He stomped Jacob with FDK. In Dragon Force, an FDK Destruction Fist can incinerate Zeref's body. Are you arguing Jacob and Neinhart can tank this? No lol. They die to this. Natsu doesn't fight Spriggans with Dragon Force because he can stomp them without it.

Zeref blasting Natsu in the face did almost nothing lol. It stunned him briefly. I'm not arguing that Irene can't stun Natsu with her attacks. I'm arguing she isn't tanking attacks that can incinerate Zeref or Aldoron.

 

[WoWfan]

because Laxus is an ally, different from those who are against it. She lost her power after Aldoron awoke. Irene was not even taking the fight seriously seeing as how she could effortlessly enchant herself into Wendy right after finding out she is a perfect vessel. building is nothing to someone who can compress a large country, plus the will of Viernes is like that of Irene in Wendy’s body and vice versa, it all depends on magic power, and Alchemists were defeated which shows they are weaker than Wendy and since power is not part of their bodies that limit is not applicable. Selene is weaker than Irene as established in the shot above with how Enchantments work and is stronger than Wendy that would threaten her While attached to her against her will, another point for MP matter in stats, and Wendy’s potential can defeat someone like Haku who scales to Suzaku. How would any spell work to spot someone who is not only stronger and is a persona if it was for malicious intent? If she could affect someone stronger than her, why didn’t she sent Ignia to Edolas where he would lose his magic too? Or any other DG for that matter? combat or not it establishes the power difference based on ability to affect their target. Only because she had no magic power that it killed her. And because that person would die and take her with them, that is the point. Sure if he uses SFs which is his pinnacle power, Zeref let him do that as to show Natsu’s futility. Nienhart was a little power drunk at that point and Brandish could affect Natsu who was ready to fight her, Jacob was flown backwards and Natsu took advantage of that and still had enough strength to get away. Only because Zeref let him as to show how pointless it it. Not with DF, but then again he did not used it on them and base Zeref can push DF Natsu back. Invel can freeze FDK flames effortlessly and standard Spriggans scale to him. If DF was that powerful he would has powered through like you claim. Aldoron was weakened and Gajeel Who was powered by a Spriggan can stagger Aldoron’s weakened form, DF Natsu is still below that of Base Zeref who can damage and eventually kill Aldoron who is much stronger than what Natsu fought.