A transformation for deku would be interesting. Maybe something that helps his classmates make sense of how deku can apparently just do whatever with his quirk. That'd be too convenient though.
True, the shadowed users could definitely be mutants. The only question I would have is how would this work with OFA? When Deku unlocked their quirk would he be permanently transformed like any other mutant quirk? If so the mutation would probably have to be pretty subtle like Miruko’s or Tsuyu’s, otherwise it might be a bit much.Not to mention we still dont know what two of the predecessors look like. One of them could be hidden because their mutant type quirk would be a big give away. It would be very shonen like for Deku to have a transformation.
My theory is that the predecessor with the black hair who is covering his mouth has a mouth related mutation quirk. Imagine a monster like mouth similar to Venom.True, the shadowed users could definitely be mutants. The only question I would have is how would this work with OFA? When Deku unlocked their quirk would he be permanently transformed like any other mutant quirk? If so the mutation would probably have to be pretty subtle like Miruko’s or Tsuyu’s, otherwise it might be a bit much.
Additionally, OFA powers up quirks. What would a powered up mutant quirk be like? If it’s anything like Mutants taking trigger in Vigilantes it could get crazy.
The mouth idea could actually be pretty cool, but I don’t know if Horikoshi would give his main character a monstrous looking mouth if he’s supposed to inspire confidence in people while rescuing them.My theory is that the predecessor with the black hair who is covering his mouth has a mouth related mutation quirk. Imagine a monster like mouth similar to Venom.
An upgraded version of this could look even more sinister with more + bigger + sharper teeth, a longer tongue and acidic saliva.
Definitely possible, but I’m not sure this has been confirmed.Apparently (not sure) when All for One acquires a mutation quirk, he turns it into a transformation quirk, meaning he can make it appear in his body whenever he wants. I think the same would apply to One for All if there are mutant predecessors.
I get the feeling Horikoshi's already figured that one out, so all of the predecessors most likely have emitter and transformation Quirks.Definitely possible, but I’m not sure this has been confirmed.
It’s probably been noticed by everyone here, but mutation quirks are one of the most bizarre things in BNHA.
Let’s take Tokoyami, Hawks, and Miruko as examples. Tokoyami obviously has a mutated birdlike head, but his quirk is emitter and has nothing to do with his appearance. So if he was a successor would Deku have gotten Dark Shadow and retain a normal appearance?
Hawks, quirk is Mutant, but importantly his quirk is related to his appearance. If he didn’t have his wings he couldn’t control his feathers. So if he was a predecessor Deku would have to inherit both the appearance and the quirk.
However, take someone like Miruko, or even Tsuyu and Gang Orca as examples. These guys all have mutant quirks that change their appearance to greater or lesser extents. Even though their quirks are related to their appearance, there’s no reason that one would have to have both. Miruko, for example could have the same strength, agility, and leg power as a quirk without having rabbit ears or a tail. So if she passed her quirk on, would the recipient get the benefits and the appearance?
Horikoshi, may write himself into corners if he tries to figure out what to do with inherited mutant quirks.
That's true, AFO can activate/deactivate mutation type quirks. That's what he did in the past with the 2 people who asked him for help. He took away a mutation type quirk and gave another mutation type quirk away.Apparently (not sure) when All for One acquires a mutation quirk, he turns it into a transformation quirk, meaning he can make it appear in his body whenever he wants. I think the same would apply to One for All if there are mutant predecessors.
Bolded: This is what I always had in mind. Even with 8 different people holding onto the Quirk, there's no way the collective strength of 8 would be strong enough to change the weather/atmosphere in a single punch. When this is revealed, I think that the predecessor will have useful tips to help Deku better regulate his output. Unless he has some sort of amplification Quirk like AFO had in his stock, which helped kick up the stockpile early on.I could buy the mentioned heroes being the inspiration for deku's future quirks though I don't think the super strength that is common to all of them is relevant. most quirks don't have super strength AND something else... I suppose there could be a previous OFA user that had super strength and basically jump started the stockpiling though.
Ultraman.... Has a ton of powers as well. Never really seen him but going by the list online there are a few interesting possibilities. Absorbing energy and psychokinesis particularly stand out. Perhaps something that could absorb decay? It also sounds like something that could be useful to stockpile power in OFA's early days.
Devilman... Way too much stuff going for him. I get the feeling some of his abilities inspired some of deku's classmates abililites (energy beams, tail whip, giant form, telepathy...). As for something for deku... What fits the most is enhanced senses. Taken to super levels with OFA stockpiling it would be exceptionally useful for deku, perhaps even help him overcome some of the experience gap. The other stuff is either already covered by basic stockpiling or other heroes.... I don't see deku becoming a giant at least. I suppose some manner of energy beam would also work for deku.
Spiderman... clearly covered.
kamen rider seems like way too generic stuff in general. Maybe infra red vision?
It depends. I had thought about that for a while but the series has also proven time and time that even without a quirk you can be what we'd regard as a mega athlete. Stain, erasehead, endeavor... have all shown extraordinary physical capacity. As in, stain exceeded the physical capacity of 5% deku. Not sure of what humanity's limit is in this regard though. I doubt people can reach 20% of OFA on their own since that's the point at which deku is already capable of air blasts and that's not something we see people just do. We also don't know how exactly OFA stockpiles power... It's doesn't appear to be something like the power is added just when people receive the quirk. Rather it looks like users stockpile it through their time as OFA users....In which case even if a human can at best achieve 10% without a quirk, he'd be putting in a little bit of power all through his tenure. Of course, if there was a super strength user then it'd still help a lot. A point against a super strength quirk though is how redundant it would be. And deku would eventually actually get that quirk... what would that even look like? Deku with the stockpiled strength using a super powered super strength quirk....Bolded: This is what I always had in mind. Even with 8 different people holding onto the Quirk, there's no way the collective strength of 8 would be strong enough to change the weather/atmosphere in a single punch. When this is revealed, I think that the predecessor will have useful tips to help Deku better regulate his output. Unless he has some sort of amplification Quirk like AFO had in his stock, which helped kick up the stockpile early on.
I could see Deku getting something like Reverse Impact, with a slight variation and drawback in place. It'd be useful (might even be the most practical too).
Enhanced senses would also be a pretty logical choice. Given that Hori does well in limiting his characters' abilities, the drawback for this Quirk is obvious.
Infra red vision will depend on the enhanced senses Quirk, otherwise it would overlap too much.
If there is a super strength quirk there I would think it'd be distinct from the super strength OFA normally gives. MIdoriya would have all the super strength OFA gives AND on top of that the super strength quirk which would in turn be super powered by the stockpiled power within OFA. Not sure of how it would help midoriya's output control in that regard. it's not like midoriya has output control issues. He can control his output pretty competently by now, his main issue is simply not being strong enough to output more.I agree about super strength overlapping with what we're already seeing. It doesn't seem like something a predecessor would teach him since Deku is already working on it and has improved so much in the span of 3 months. Same goes for a passive amplification Quirk. Those two predecessors don't quite make sense in terms of what they can offer to him in advice. Unless there's a bit more nuance to their Quirks, like the super strength user giving him tips on regulating his output?
I don’t think that the original author’s point was that the previous users quirks was super strength + something else. Just that all of the previous users had the OFA stockpiling power that acted as super strength in addition to their original quirk.I could buy the mentioned heroes being the inspiration for deku's future quirks though I don't think the super strength that is common to all of them is relevant. most quirks don't have super strength AND something else... I suppose there could be a previous OFA user that had super strength and basically jump started the stockpiling though.
Actually, I don’t think it’s so big a stretch that OFA can do that after just 8 users.Bolded: This is what I always had in mind. Even with 8 different people holding onto the Quirk, there's no way the collective strength of 8 would be strong enough to change the weather/atmosphere in a single punch. When this is revealed, I think that the predecessor will have useful tips to help Deku better regulate his output.
Although this myth has been previously debunked by scientists, it does come up often in fiction, so I suppose I can accept it as the explanation for OFA’s stockpiling.I don’t think that the original author’s point was that the previous users quirks was super strength + something else. Just that all of the previous users had the OFA stockpiling power that acted as super strength in addition to their original quirk.
So all they had was stockpile + basic quirk. Not stockpile + quirk with super strength.
The fact that they had super strength through stockpile is what relates them to their proposed counterparts
Actually, I don’t think it’s so big a stretch that OFA can do that after just 8 users.
I always imagined that OFA was stockpiling or storing metabolic energy rather than just adding the strength of the previous users.
What I mean by that is, imagine that your body is constantly producing 100% of it’s metabolic output, but your only using 20% of it on average at any given time.
What OFA probably does is take the remaining 80% that you’re not using and store it to be used later.
So rather than just the strength of 8 people, OFA give you the leftover metabolic energy of 8 people stored for over 100 years.
A good analogy would be a car and gasoline. Gasoline is crazy energy dense and a gas car can have over 1500hp.
However, a car is basically only 20% efficient. Imagine that the other 80% of the gasoline’s energy was stored somewhere.
After 100 or so years the amount of energy stored by that stockpiled gasoline would be absolutely tremendous.
If this is true, the amount of energy that can be released at one time by the stockpiled power would have to have some other constraint.
Nah, this is what I was replying to:I don’t think that the original author’s point was that the previous users quirks was super strength + something else. Just that all of the previous users had the OFA stockpiling power that acted as super strength in addition to their original quirk.
So all they had was stockpile + basic quirk. Not stockpile + quirk with super strength.
The fact that they had super strength through stockpile is what relates them to their proposed counterparts
As in, the actual possibility that a previous OFA user had a super strength quirk. In which case the user would have had the super strength granted by the stockpiled power and on top of that a super strength quirk boosted by stockpiled power.Bolded: This is what I always had in mind. Even with 8 different people holding onto the Quirk, there's no way the collective strength of 8 would be strong enough to change the weather/atmosphere in a single punch. When this is revealed, I think that the predecessor will have useful tips to help Deku better regulate his output. Unless he has some sort of amplification Quirk like AFO had in his stock, which helped kick up the stockpile early on.
Yeah, of course scientifically speaking all of this is utter nonsense. It’s just the way that I’ve understood what Hori means when he says stockpiling power.Although this myth has been previously debunked by scientists, it does come up often in fiction, so I suppose I can accept it as the explanation for OFA’s stockpiling.
Cool, I was just trying to point out that I don’t think that the original tweeter was trying to to imply that any of the previous users had super strength I depended of OFA stockpiling power in his original argument.Nah, this is what I was replying to:
As in, the actual possibility that a previous OFA user had a super strength quirk. In which case the user would have had the super strength granted by the stockpiled power and on top of that a super strength quirk boosted by stockpiled power.