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What is Saki? Well, it's manga based around high school girls playing Mohjang at the competitive level (with Supernatural phenomena thrown in the mix).
But he sucks at Mahjong, so nobody cares about him. (He's also oblivious to the fact he's in series with a yuri subplot)
This guy is pretty suave
But's he mainly a teleports behind you, badass butler.
Next up is talking about Mahjong and how well the series portrays it.
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What is Mahjong?
Mahjong is like poker/Gin rummy in the sense you're trying to build winning hands. The difference is that you're not betting chips, but rather trying to build a hand that is dangerous to play around.
To start, we need to identify the types of tiles used: Suits and Honors.
The general idea in Mahjong is to get four melds, a pair, and a yaku to win a hand. A pair is very straightforward, so I don't to explain it (though in a few cases what being paired matters).
Melds are sets of three that come in either the form of a chi, pon, or kan. A chi is a run or three consecutive numbers (so no honors).
Ex. 4p5p6p would be a chi of pins. Noted you can only make melds of the same suit, so 4p5s6m isn't a chi.
A pon is a three of kind while a kan is a four of a kind.
Now, melds can either be closed or open. A closed meld is a meld hidden from the players (except Closed Kan). An open meld is formed when another player calls from the last discarded tile.
Ex. If I have a pair of red dragons and the next person to discard gets rid of a red dragon, I may call "pon" to make an open meld of red dragons then discard a tile.
Chi can only be called from the person on your left.
If any hand has open melds, then the hand is no longer closed and thus open. This is important in regards to yakus.
Kan is a special meld, since it can be done in three ways: Closed, Open, Added.
A closed kan looks like this:
Notice how the outer is faced to the opponents? This is why they know your closed kans. Your hand is still considered closed with closed kans.
An Open Kan can only be made when you have a closed pon and call the fourth discarded tile (like the 1p in the image above).
An added Kan can be called when you have an open pon and draw the fourth tile. You can't add from a discard.
Each kan calls adds a dora and removes a replacement tile (a dead wall draw you get for calling kan), with only four replacement titles. Therefore, a fifth kan call resets the game.
And now the yaku.
A yaku is a condition that determines the value of a hand. A player must have one yaku in order to win the round. Here is a list of all the yaku.
I am not going to go over all of them, since most of them are standard/easy to get and happen frequently in the series. But I will explain the ones you need to know.
Menzen Tsumo: Self Draw win on a closed hand. This means any combination of melds and a pair on closed hand is valid with this condition because the menzen tsumo is the yaku.
Richi: A call you can make when you're hand is closed and one away from winning (tenpai). With declaring richi, you must put a 1000 point stick in the center and the discard tile sideways. You can't change your hand and must declare ron (win on discard) on your waits or go into furiten (sacred discard. Can't ron anymore). There some other things which you read in the wiki.
Haitei: Tsumo on the last draw tile before dead wall. Amae's call sign
Houtei: Ron on the last discard
Rinshin Kaihou: Tsumo after calling a kan. Saki's calling card
Chankan: Calling ron on an added kan. In one case (13 orphans), a closed kan can be ron'd
Chitoi: 7 unique pairs. A closed only hand with a fixed fu (hand comp points)
Thirteen Orphans: 1p9p1s9s1m9mESWNWhGR and a duplicate. ! and 9 in all suits are called terminals, fyi. It's a yakuman hand and worth max limit.
Nine Gate: 1112345678999 of one suit and one duplicate. Closed only
Tenhou: Dealer (east wind) gets a complete hand on the first draw
Chihou: Non-Dealer gets a complete hand on the first draw.
Renhou: Non-dealer gets a complete hand on a ron before their first draw and no one has declared an open meld.
Point Calculation:
Point calculation is broken down into two parts: Fu and Han.
Fu is based off hand composition (closed pon, closed kan, pair wait, etc). All fu is rounded up, even if it's 32 or 34. This isn't true for chitoi, which is always 25 fu,
Han is based off the number of yakus and dora. The dora is the tile to the right of the dora indicator (the revealed tile on the dead wall, third right). Having one Dora adds one han to the hand. (So a pon of Dora in a winning hand is 3 han). As said earlier, kan adds more dora by flipping over another dora indicator. (Right of the first dora indicator). There is other type of dora such as the red fives and uradora you can read about.
Point calculation takes a lot of time to memorize through hans 1 - 4, but at 5 or more han the count is easy.
5 han - Mangan (8000 ND, 12000 Dealer)
6,7 - Haneman (12000 ND, 18000 Dealer)
8,9,10 - Baiman (16000 ND, 24000 Dealer)
11, 12 - Sanbaiman (24000 ND, 36000 Dealer)
13+ - Yakuman (32000 ND, 48000 Dealer)
Other stuff:
A lot of other stuff can be read on the wiki, but it's good to remember furiten and chombo. Furiten occurs when your winning tile is in the discard and thus you can't declare ron without penalty (chombo). Chombo is a severe oversight and the person who commits the chombo must pay the other players. Their hand is also dead, thus they can't win that round.
That's the basics of the game, next I will talk about the manga itself.
This manga, along with The Legend of Koizumi and Akagi, are probably the Big 3 in terms of Mahjong manga. Unlike the other two, the hands played out are fairly normal (Legend of Koizumi starts out with President Bush getting Tenhou lololol. Meanwhile, cheating is prevalent in Akagi).
Mahjong is like poker/Gin rummy in the sense you're trying to build winning hands. The difference is that you're not betting chips, but rather trying to build a hand that is dangerous to play around.
To start, we need to identify the types of tiles used: Suits and Honors.
The general idea in Mahjong is to get four melds, a pair, and a yaku to win a hand. A pair is very straightforward, so I don't to explain it (though in a few cases what being paired matters).
Melds are sets of three that come in either the form of a chi, pon, or kan. A chi is a run or three consecutive numbers (so no honors).
Ex. 4p5p6p would be a chi of pins. Noted you can only make melds of the same suit, so 4p5s6m isn't a chi.
A pon is a three of kind while a kan is a four of a kind.
Now, melds can either be closed or open. A closed meld is a meld hidden from the players (except Closed Kan). An open meld is formed when another player calls from the last discarded tile.
Ex. If I have a pair of red dragons and the next person to discard gets rid of a red dragon, I may call "pon" to make an open meld of red dragons then discard a tile.
Chi can only be called from the person on your left.
If any hand has open melds, then the hand is no longer closed and thus open. This is important in regards to yakus.
Kan is a special meld, since it can be done in three ways: Closed, Open, Added.
A closed kan looks like this:
Notice how the outer is faced to the opponents? This is why they know your closed kans. Your hand is still considered closed with closed kans.
An Open Kan can only be made when you have a closed pon and call the fourth discarded tile (like the 1p in the image above).
An added Kan can be called when you have an open pon and draw the fourth tile. You can't add from a discard.
Each kan calls adds a dora and removes a replacement tile (a dead wall draw you get for calling kan), with only four replacement titles. Therefore, a fifth kan call resets the game.
And now the yaku.
A yaku is a condition that determines the value of a hand. A player must have one yaku in order to win the round. Here is a list of all the yaku.
I am not going to go over all of them, since most of them are standard/easy to get and happen frequently in the series. But I will explain the ones you need to know.
Menzen Tsumo: Self Draw win on a closed hand. This means any combination of melds and a pair on closed hand is valid with this condition because the menzen tsumo is the yaku.
Richi: A call you can make when you're hand is closed and one away from winning (tenpai). With declaring richi, you must put a 1000 point stick in the center and the discard tile sideways. You can't change your hand and must declare ron (win on discard) on your waits or go into furiten (sacred discard. Can't ron anymore). There some other things which you read in the wiki.
Haitei: Tsumo on the last draw tile before dead wall. Amae's call sign
Houtei: Ron on the last discard
Rinshin Kaihou: Tsumo after calling a kan. Saki's calling card
Chankan: Calling ron on an added kan. In one case (13 orphans), a closed kan can be ron'd
Chitoi: 7 unique pairs. A closed only hand with a fixed fu (hand comp points)
Thirteen Orphans: 1p9p1s9s1m9mESWNWhGR and a duplicate. ! and 9 in all suits are called terminals, fyi. It's a yakuman hand and worth max limit.
Nine Gate: 1112345678999 of one suit and one duplicate. Closed only
Tenhou: Dealer (east wind) gets a complete hand on the first draw
Chihou: Non-Dealer gets a complete hand on the first draw.
Renhou: Non-dealer gets a complete hand on a ron before their first draw and no one has declared an open meld.
Point Calculation:
Point calculation is broken down into two parts: Fu and Han.
Fu is based off hand composition (closed pon, closed kan, pair wait, etc). All fu is rounded up, even if it's 32 or 34. This isn't true for chitoi, which is always 25 fu,
Han is based off the number of yakus and dora. The dora is the tile to the right of the dora indicator (the revealed tile on the dead wall, third right). Having one Dora adds one han to the hand. (So a pon of Dora in a winning hand is 3 han). As said earlier, kan adds more dora by flipping over another dora indicator. (Right of the first dora indicator). There is other type of dora such as the red fives and uradora you can read about.
Point calculation takes a lot of time to memorize through hans 1 - 4, but at 5 or more han the count is easy.
5 han - Mangan (8000 ND, 12000 Dealer)
6,7 - Haneman (12000 ND, 18000 Dealer)
8,9,10 - Baiman (16000 ND, 24000 Dealer)
11, 12 - Sanbaiman (24000 ND, 36000 Dealer)
13+ - Yakuman (32000 ND, 48000 Dealer)
Other stuff:
A lot of other stuff can be read on the wiki, but it's good to remember furiten and chombo. Furiten occurs when your winning tile is in the discard and thus you can't declare ron without penalty (chombo). Chombo is a severe oversight and the person who commits the chombo must pay the other players. Their hand is also dead, thus they can't win that round.
That's the basics of the game, next I will talk about the manga itself.
While I just let the question hang there, allow me to say a few words on Fairy Tail's behalf. The first word is, of course, Erza...
...nuff said.
Now let me go on to say that Fairy Tail as a whole is perhaps one of the most consistently fun battle manga ever made. What it lakes it depth it more than makes up for in it's joyous approach to adventure. And that's really what it's about. Delivering heroic adventures and putting smiles on it's reader's faces. And it did that over and over more consistently than almost any other long running manga series I've read.
Now I know there are a lot of haters of Fairy Tail out there. It wasn't always perfect. But I can easily think back to a dozen moments where it's brand of heroism was powerful enough that I can still remember it to this day. Natsu beating Jellal to save Erza, Makarov using Fairy Law for the first time. These moments are what made Fairy Tail as a series worth experiencing and worth remembering. And something I'm happy to vote for.
While I just let the question hang there, allow me to say a few words on Fairy Tail's behalf. The first word is, of course, Erza...
...nuff said.
Now let me go on to say that Fairy Tail as a whole is perhaps one of the most consistently fun battle manga ever made. What it lakes it depth it more than makes up for in it's joyous approach to adventure. And that's really what it's about. Delivering heroic adventures and putting smiles on it's reader's faces. And it did that over and over more consistently than almost any other long running manga series I've read.
Now I know there are a lot of haters of Fairy Tail out there. It wasn't always perfect. But I can easily think back to a dozen moments where it's brand of heroism was powerful enough that I can still remember it to this day. Natsu beating Jellal to save Erza, Makarov using Fairy Law for the first time. These moments are what made Fairy Tail as a series worth experiencing and worth remembering. And something I'm happy to vote for.
Excuse you, but Mahjong is a very deep, fun, and competitive game.
One of my favorite moments in the series is when Yumi, a straight up good Mahjong player that’s all work and has no abilities, sets up a Chankan trap against Saki.
After back to back Rinshan kaihous, she notices Saki’s open 2s pon. In order to stop her momentum, she changes her wait to be a 2s in order to Ron off an added Kan.
It’s a stunning moment since she gives up Mangan to do this, which frees up the game until Amae makes her run.
Voting Fairy Tail,it's the Manga that brought me to MH in the First Place(yo,Zeref Spriggan here*coughs*) and if not for the 2nd Half of the Final Arc it would've had a decent Ending. Gets way too much hate considering that it has flaws/had mistakes even some of the "Greats" within it's Genre have/had. Overall a fun read,had some pretty good fights and for me some cool Characters to boot.
That is one of my reasons,the other being that i never read Saki although going by what i've heard of it and read of it in here it seems to be somewhat similar to Kakegurui. Seems interesting but not enough to have me give it my Vote here.
Voting Fairy Tail,it's the Manga that brought me to MH in the First Place(yo,Zeref Spriggan here*coughs*) and if not for the 2nd Half of the Final Arc it would've had a decent Ending. Gets way too much hate considering that it has flaws/had mistakes even some of the "Greats" within it's Genre have/had. Overall a fun read,had some pretty good fights and for me some cool Characters to boot.
That is one of my reasons,the other being that i never read Saki although going by what i've heard of it and read of it in here it seems to be somewhat similar to Kakegurui. Seems interesting but not enough to have me give it my Vote here.
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this time you'll get my vote! #nomashimaformethx
