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We have finished over 700 chapters, half of the distance to get to where One Piece is speculated to be, but none of this points us to what it is, where it is or if it actually even exists.

The entire world set out to become pirates and search the treasure, but no one has actually shown any hint so far to be pointing towards even trying to get it.

Weid learn that White Beard was the main man closest to getting to One Piece, but we had no idea what it meant.

The following are some of the pirates looking to become teh pirate king:
1. The 4 Yonkouts
2. Doflamingo
3. Crocodile
4. Gecko Moria
5. luffy
6. Buggy

The Yonkouys are currently the closest to it by the looks of it, while
These pirates have seriously declared that they want to become the pirate king, which can be related to finding One Piece. However, from the adventures observed, no one has shown direct effort towards the treausre.

So here is my main point of discussion

1. Have we seen any hints that could potentially point towards the search of One Piece
2. Is the current world structured in a way where finding One Piece is nearly impossible, unless you actually rule all the seas
 

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The following are some of the pirates looking to become teh pirate king:
1. The 4 Yonkouts
2. Doflamingo
3. Crocodile
4. Gecko Moria
5. luffy
6. Buggy

So here is my main point of discussion
actually Buggy never show interest in one piece
 

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Answer to first question.
There were some theories and strong facts that was mentioned by reighleigh that one piece is in raftel.

Second question.
Idk. Maybe.
 

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What do you even mean with the first point/question? Do you mean "point to the OP"? It's at the end of the One Piece and one way to find is to read the poneglyphs. But to become Pirate King you also need [to be able to] all other strong pirates, meaning Yonkou and other contenders/rivals for the title.

If the NW was always majorly ruled by pirates, it might have always been a hard challenge, not that it would get much easier with marines controling parts of it. Why do you speak of all seas? It's somewhere in the New World, not the Blues, problably an island named Raftel.
 

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I don't think Shanks really cares about One Piece, he's out on the sea drinking sake and partying.
 

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If Shanks was with Roger when Roger created the One Piece, then I'm sure he doesn't care about it. He probably wants to be the pirate king, but I don't think he wants the One Piece. I'm not sure when Shanks joined, though.
 

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actually Buggy never show interest in one piece
Well, Buggy cares about the treasure, he ought to care about becoming the pirate king. Also, he clearly said he wants to become the pirate king.

Answer to first question.
There were some theories and strong facts that was mentioned by reighleigh that one piece is in raftel.

Second question.
Idk. Maybe.
What do you even mean with the first point/question? Do you mean "point to the OP"? It's at the end of the One Piece and one way to find is to read the poneglyphs. But to become Pirate King you also need [to be able to] all other strong pirates, meaning Yonkou and other contenders/rivals for the title.

If the NW was always majorly ruled by pirates, it might have always been a hard challenge, not that it would get much easier with marines controling parts of it. Why do you speak of all seas? It's somewhere in the New World, not the Blues, problably an island named Raftel.
Well, to answer both, Sameel and Schabrak at the same time. Both the questions are just splitting the main point of the discussion. First point helps us list all hints towards what and where One Piece is, and that will help us understand the 2nd point on how to get it.

Current Hints of One Piece
1. Located in Raftel, the last island on the Grandline on the new world side.
2. Contains the wealth, fame and power

Now we know Raftel is important through Roger and WB's conversation. We can conclude that there is a secret to get there, which is why the current world hasnt still found it. This is what I assume associates to point 2, you have to be strong enough to rule all the seas, or metaphorically atleast. This is where Poneglyphs come into picture, and the only people who can read them are from Ohara, currently all dead except Robin.
But again, if that was all there is to it, only Luffy and co stand a chance. Crocodile could have gotten away with it, if Robinw as a little more friendly.

I think some part of Roger's comments from Roger's execution are also skipped, it would be interesting to see if there was more.


I don't think Shanks really cares about One Piece, he's out on the sea drinking sake and partying.
Well, the fact that Shanks sported Roger's hat before possibily says that Roger picked Shanks as the person to carry the task he felt was incomplete. Like Silver said, roger pirates were a little too hasty and the new generation might come to a different conclusion from them.


If Shanks was with Roger when Roger created the One Piece, then I'm sure he doesn't care about it. He probably wants to be the pirate king, but I don't think he wants the One Piece. I'm not sure when Shanks joined, though.
Roger made two trips, the 2nd one is my guess when he left clues. It started from Reverse mountain and Crocus was hired as the doctor. Shanks and Buggy were probably hired then as cabin boys, or to pass the torch as it could be.
 

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I honestly think one piece is the oro jackson. It was probably roger's biggest treasure, in that he treasured it. One piece probably refers to the fact that it made it to Raftel in "one piece."
 

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So you sail around the world, beat all other contestants, pirates, marines, bounty hunters, have survived the harshed of challenges only to find another ship? Like hell no that is the One Piece, it baffles me how you could even think up such a bizarre theory. What gives it any imortance? What makes it any different from the ship the new Pirate King/Queen has sailed on? How does you idea make any sense?
 
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Raftel is the ancient kingdom, everything shall be answered at the end of the Grand Line. One Piece is the treasure of knowledge, dreams and adventure. What the DF's are, the void century, exposing the WG for what they are, you name it.
 

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I honestly think one piece is the oro jackson. It was probably roger's biggest treasure, in that he treasured it. One piece probably refers to the fact that it made it to Raftel in "one piece."
Doubt it's Oro Jackson. I think the One Piece has to do with the blank century, the explanation behind Will of D, maybe treasures, and possibly a weapon.

Also Schabrak, there is no reason to ridicule his theory. No one in the manga except for those who sailed with Roger know, maybe, what One Piece is. As far as the characters know, they're going after treasure which exists. They assume it's treasure, but it could be anything.
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo Thread

The easiest way to find one piece and Raftel island is to capture Rayleigh and use Viola's ability to read his mind.
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo Thread

The easiest way to find one piece and Raftel island is to capture Rayleigh and use Viola's ability to read his mind.
Not necessary, Rayleigh was willing to tell Luffy and the rest about the One Piece but Luffy didn't want to hear it.
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo Thread

i dont think just finding one piece is a point... u have to be able to decipher it, its gonna be a code of sorts...
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo Thread

Not necessary, Rayleigh was willing to tell Luffy and the rest about the One Piece but Luffy didn't want to hear it.
I mean those who are looking for one piece like Black Beard would want to get it in any possible way.

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i dont think just finding one piece is a point... u have to be able to decipher it, its gonna be a code of sorts...
I think Rayleigh would also know what it says. He knows everything since he's Roger's right hand.
 

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Gol D. Roger


Intro
The aim of this is to show that One Piece (click to learn about One Piece) is not the only way to become Pirate King as widely assumed and perpetuated.


3 years a Pirate King
Gol D. Roger as we all know became Pirate King within 2 years of his final endeavours in the Grand Line⁽¹⁾ and in his 3rd and final year, he disbanded his crew one by one⁽²⁾ where he thereafter gave himself over to the WG. Roger had been sailing the Grand Line years before becoming Pirate King along with Rayleigh as stated by Shiki⁽³⁾. In his final 3 years in which he reigned as Pirate King, we know Roger wasn't a Pirate King prior to those 3 years⁽⁴⁾.

As to what determines what a Pirate King is, many confuse it as mean reaching Raftel. That is a Red herring which I will refute with evidence and in doing so, ascertain what is required in order to become a Pirate King.

Roger's Strawhat
Roger set out to sea during his youth where he met with Rayleigh and all he wanted was to go on an adventure and "turn the world upside down⁽⁵⁾", what Roger is really saying here is that he's going to become Pirate King because Shanks tells us, that Luffy says something Roger often exclaims too⁽⁶⁾.

If we look back, Luffy has very often and fearlessly claimed himself to be future Pirate King since his youth and more so after meeting Shanks ⁽⁷⁾. We can conclude that Roger too aimed to be Pirate King just like Luffy too based on Shanks claiming they make the same outrageous bold self-proclamations of one day becoming Pirate King.


One Piece - Created by Roger
Roger was known to have accumulated a lot of wealth in his time as a Pirate⁽⁸⁾. It is this wealth he accumultaed that he named "One Piece" and left it in the Grand Line or at Raftel to be exact; unfortunately for those in search of instant riches, Roger with great pleasure, impishly and ambiguously gave the location of this great accumulation of wealth as somewhere in the World or New World⁽⁹⁾. Many scenes have hinted that the whereabouts of One Piece is unknown to the world which makes sense based on the ambiguity of Roger's bearings .

For example, Crocus tells us, in the history of One Piece, the only people to confirm Raftel's existence are the Pirate King's crew. If we fast-forward to Usopp listening to what Crocus says concerning One Piece, he asks if One Piece is on that Island. The reason Usopp asks is because Crocus said the Pirate King's crew were there, he's only excited to hear this because this is new knowledge that he's only come across for the first time⁽¹⁰⁾; we can conclude that if Usopp who represents the majority is that excited about hearing about Raftelpossibly being the location, it therefore means, he's never heard about Raftel before and he has no idea where One Piece could be prior to this revelation.

Another example hinting at this lack of details can be seen where Bellamy unprovoked, scoffs at the SHs and those alike chasing after what he refers to as "Bullshit fantasies" which is of course pertaining to Sky Island nad legends alike at Mock Town⁽¹¹⁾. They do not believe in One Piece because, just like Emerald City and City of Gold (Shandia), they're yet to be confirmed to exist by people other than the owner of these claims, and who can blame them? One Piece at that point has still not been found in 23 years; time erodes the authenticity of claims.

Conclusive, One Piece is a legend because there's no tangible proof that it exists. It's not until Whitebeard dies 23 years after Roger, and claims One Piece exists⁽¹²⁾ that people in North, West, South and East Blue begin to entertain the possibility that this treasure that's yet to be found, really does exist.
How different is the claim of the City of Gold by Norland to Roger's One Piece treasure? Neither have been found for years, but one of them is deemed a liar and disrespected through the age; on the other hand, Roger is praised, belived and not seculatly considered a liar, yet no one has confirmed the existence of his treasure⁽¹⁾.

The reason why Roger wasn't deemed a liar like Norland is because he's a great figure, the Pirate King; it's almost like being a celebrity, people tend to give such figures the benefit of the doubt or make exceptions. This is why despite One Piece having not been found, Roger still kept an unsullied name.

What is the Grand Line
The Grand Line can be split into 2 halves; the first half is known as Paradise⁽¹³⁾, while the other is known as the New World⁽¹⁴⁾.

The first half of the Grand Line is like a survival test which tests their ability to somewhat, survive in the New World; the result of successfully traversing Paradise or the first-half of the Grand Line is to reach the Red-Line or Sabaody which is a difficult challenge⁽¹⁵⁾. The Pirates that make it this far in their first year are followed by the World Government very closely⁽¹⁶⁾.

Progressing from the Red-Line, the Grand Line from that point on-wards is called the New World; what makes the New World so special or the most significant part of the Grand Line is the fact that, unlike Paradise, the main challenge in the sea is the opposition you're bound to come into contact with⁽¹⁷⁾. It is the fact that the New World or, latter half of the Grand Line is full of powerful opponents, that the likes of Rayleigh⁽¹⁸⁾ and Coby⁽¹⁹⁾ question if Luffy can really conquer the Grand Line.

Simply put, what is there to conquer if there's no one to fight? What does it mean to conquer a country, if there's no army or opposition to defeat and subjugate? It's exactly for this reason, that conquering the Grand Line is a feat, it requires immense power and a crew up to the challenge which explains the Strawhat's 2 year time-skip

What is a Pirate King

Based on what is said concernin the Grand Line, we know to conquer it means to be able to defeat the strong Pirates and Admirals whom we find will be traversing the New World, and more so, the Pirates than the Admirals.

Like was previously stated what's there to conquer if there's no one or peoples to fight, defeat, subjugate? Chinjao has expounded the most on what it means to be Pirate King, and one of the main things we know concerning becoming a Pirate King is, only potential Pirate Kings are in the way of other potential Pirate kings⁽²⁰⁾; he goes on to emphasize that a Pirate King doesn't only defeat the Yonko (the main Pirates ruling portions of the New World), but the Admirals too⁽²¹⁾.

To unequivocally be certain that Pirate King really is to do with having the strength to defeat both Yonko and Admirals (all who oppose), Luffy himself bluntly and succinctly summarizes what a Pirate King is⁽²²⁾.Note: Luffy says Pirate King is the freest man, however, there's a difference to what a Pirate King is and what motivates one to be Pirate King. What motivates Luffy to become a Pirate King is to be free, I'll be touching on this down the line.

If Pirate King defeats all those who oppose him such as, the Yonko and Admirals, then why do we know that Roger and Garp fought each the other to the extent of both almost dying to the other?⁽²³⁾, and Shiki fighting Roger to a stalemate rather than defeating as a Pirate King does⁽²⁴⁾? Roger wasn't Pirate King at these points in time, it means he got stronger after the Ed war against Shiki and became a force unstoppable by either Admirals or Yonkos.
I believe Yonko has always existed; if we go back to Luffy fighting Chinjao, Chinjao said you think you can defeat Yonko and Admirals to exceed Roger? How can doing exactly what Roger did be regarded as exceeding? To exceed could mean that Roger never defeated them, however, to exceed can also mean doing more than Roger did, and that'd be defeating more Admirals and Yonko than he did.

If we also go back, we know that there appears to be only 2 Yonko during that period; Whitebeard being extremely powerful and Shiki with the biggest fleet in the New World. After Shiki was defeated, Shiki told Whitebeard that now Roger is dead, it's his age and more so because Shiki's crew probably disbanded too, so the only powerful emperor in the Grand Line left was Whitebeard. Naturally and logically speaking, if 2 people rule and 1 is defeated, 1 person is by default left to rule which is the case with Whitebeard imo.

Now, we have 4 Yonko (2 more than in Roger's time) so when Chinjao angrily and rhetorically questions if Luffy can you defeat the Admirals and Yonko to exceed Roger? He's basically saying if Roger struggled to defeat 2 Yonko and Admirals which was deemed impossible, how would he possibly defeat 4 Yonko and Admirals to be Pirate king.

Meaning of Hidden Scars

Random association, but this will also aid in consolidating how certain one can be as to how Roger became Pirate King. Oda has used scars, aching scars in particular, as a device with connotations alluding to defeat.

Whomever has a scar given to them by someone by whom they were defeated by, always find that the scar aches. This phenomenon occurs whenever the victor in the memorable battle comes to remembrance as shown here:
  • Chinjao says his head hurts whenever he remembers Garp⁽²⁵⁾, and he was utterly defeated by none other, than Garp himself.
  • Luffy scars also began to ache when reminded of Akainu⁽²⁶⁾, and we know Akainu did a number on him.
  • Shanks's scars also ached when reminded about Blackbeard⁽²⁷⁾ which implies Blackbeard, most likely defeated Shanks, or he wouldn't be bitter about.
What are the implications of aching scars concerning Roger? Whitebeard sustained a wound from Roger whih ached⁽²⁸⁾ whilst looking Shanks's face, because his crew fought often against Roger's crew; this insinuates that he most definitely was defeated by Roger who we know was Pirate King in light of the trend of aching scars⁽²⁹⁾.

Akainu , Joker and Shiki confirm for us that Whitebeard never became Pirate King due to reasons unknown to then, however, very few people know why, but a lot of it most likely has to do with his conversation with Roger a year before he died.

Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate - The Never Becoming King


Intro
Whitebeard was 1 of the 2 Yonko during the era of Roger, at this point, we can assume Shiki was a Yonko because he had the largest fleet. When Roger died, Shiki said to Whitebeard that this age is yours because Shiki himself had lost his fleet due to being imprisoned, Roger was dead and Whitebeard was the only great force in the Grand Line capable of ruling⁽³⁰⁾.

However, we see that there are 3 additional Yonko since Roger's death who are Shanks, Kaido and Bigmam. If 3 additional Yonko have risen, it means just like both Akainu⁽³¹⁾ and Joker⁽³²⁾ stated, Whitebeard never ruled the Grand Line even though he could have which is why he's said to have never ruled the Grand Line.

Shanks met with Whitebeard 22 years afer Roger's death⁽³³⁾, in order to convince Whitebeard to have Ace to withdraw in his hunt for Blackbeard, Whitebeard still remembers Shanks as Roger's apprentice and commended him for making it all the way to being a Yonko. If Whitebeard didn't see Shanks in 22 years, it means he never fought with Shanks, a potential Pirate King is supposed to display his dominance over the seas, not seclude himself.

Interestingly enough, we Whitebeard didn't fight Shanks, but he fought Kaido and Bigmam fought over territory⁽³⁴⁾. Since Whitebeard never challenged Shanks, it means he was challenged by Kaido and Bigmam over his own territory since he wasn't looking to expand. Had Whitebeard truly been aiming for Pirate King, he'd have taken over Kaido, Bigmam and Shank's territories because he was strong enough to impose his dominance if he simply felt like doing so.

What Whitebeard Knew
First thing that needs pointing out is that Whitebeard was already aware of Ace's bloodline⁽³⁵⁾ just as Sengoku said, and the those of the upper Echelon within the WG included; they knew he could potentially be Pirate King being the blood of Roger, so Whitebeard decided to groom him.

Whitebeard stopped trying to become Pirate King because Roger told him about the Will of D, the details of the Void Century and how it would result in bringing down the corrupt World Governmen⁽³⁶⁾; this is why when Shiki sojourned on Whitebeard's ship⁽³⁷⁾, after Roger's death, Shiki said it's Whitebeard's age, but Whitebeard told him to shut up because he no longer was interested in becoming Pirate King; quite the coincidence.

Whitebeard must have believed Roger's story and decided to not get in the way due to being too old, and decided to give someone in their youth and who was a D., the opportunity to fulfill the prophecy⁽³⁸⁾. He surely believes this prophecy will come to pass which is why at his death, he proclaims its existence to encourage others to continue pursuiting after One Piece to make it both difficult for the World Government being a blokcade to the fulfilment of the Prophecy; the more Pirates go to the Grand Line, the less control they have over the world.
Viz Translation - Whitebeard: Someday, one will arise who will challenge the world.. and shoulder centuries of history. Sengoku, you and the World Government fear the great war that will come to this world one day! I'm not interested in the treasure, but when it's found... the whole woulrd will be turned upside down! Someone will find it. That day will come.
Sengoku has an idea of the implications of what searching for One Piece means⁽³⁹⁾, and the result is another age of Piracy or a continuation of the age of Piracy⁽⁴⁰⁾.

Whitebeard Conclusion
If Whitebeard weren't influenced by Roger's story, he would have become Pirate King after Roger's death and would probably have killed Ace too. I believe it's because he knew he was too old to fulfil this prophecy that he took Ace as his son because he knew he had Gol D. Roger's blood and tried to rear him up to be Pirate King rather than to hate him for being the son of his enemy like so many people did; we can also see he did the same on behalf of Luffy because he saw he had the potential to be the one Roger was speaking of in this prophecy spoken.

While Akainu was somewhat accurate about Whitebeard not accomplishing much, it appears that Whitebeard was sacrificing himself for the greater good of the world despite somewhat dirtying his own name in the process.

Pirate King Conclusion
Anyone can become Pirate King regardless of what their dream is as long as they defeat all opposing them in the Grand Line and that's what it ultimately means to conquer the Grand Line, with that said:
  • Kaido is looking to start the greatest war, if he comes out victorious defeating both Yonko and Admirals, he'll be Pirate King.
  • Bigmam want's Islands to supply her with candy and she's going to need to further her territory to coerce more countries into offer her candy; if she defeats all Yonkos and Admirals in her way, then she'd be successful and without doubt become Pirate King.
  • Blackbeard defeating all his opponents like the Yonko and Admirals successfully will also become Pirate King.
Purpose of being Pirate King


Freedom's merely the reason that Luffy and Roger wanted to become Pirate King⁽⁴¹⁾, the root of this need is the desire to have adventures which is why Luffy is always excited whenever he reaches a new Island or meets a new race.

The general understanding or reasoning behind why people want to conquer the Grand Line is to control, this is the perception of everyone but Luffy & Roger.

Orlumbus and Bartolomeo assume that because Luffy wants to become Pirate King, he'll need a fleet under his control in order to control or take over territories, and the world ultimately⁽⁴²⁾; however, Luffy says he doesn't need to be a big shot or Yonko in other words, he simply just wants to be free and wants nothing more beyond that⁽⁴³⁾.

Luffy's philosophy is this simple:
  • If he defeats all the strong Pirates (Yonko & Admirals) that can interfere with his adventures, he'll ultimately be able to traverse the Grand Line as he pleases in order to pursue his adventures; Luffy's idea of Pirate King is like having not to pay up or stand in a queue for rides at the Amusement Park, becoming Pirate King is literally the price he's paying to have the utmost fun and freedom.
For Others:
  • If they defeat all the strong peoeple (Yonko & Admirals), they can take their territory and rule as they please.
Luffy's desires are purely childish and innocent which is why when Law, Bartolomoeo and his allies hear his idea of being Pirate King, they're astonished. Being a Yonko is a 1/4 of what a Pirate King is, that's why most Pirate King potentials are mainly considered as Yonko. Yonko have conqueredl a 1/4 of the Grand Line⁽⁴⁴⁾ and they're all fighting to increase their territory which is why they aim to increase their military power and recruit more underlings.

Luffy doesn't need people to serve him like is done in Yonko crews, no need for a parent and child relationship; all Luffy wants is the liberty to sail the Grand Line while his allies could do as they pleased and support him when needed and vice versa, a system where everyone is equal.

Any reason that coincides with defeating Admirals and Yonko will lead to becoming Pirate King, One piece isn't the one and only route.
 
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Re: One Piece Mega Convo Thread

I mean those who are looking for one piece like Black Beard would want to get it in any possible way.

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I think Rayleigh would also know what it says. He knows everything since he's Roger's right hand.
But Rayleigh did say they were not the experts at it like the scholars from Ohara.... The poneglyphs language would be complex allowing multiple interpretation probably... Robin is an Ohara scholar, so she would be able to read it and come to a different conclusion, or be able to complete some amount that Rogers didnt. So the same would exend to one piece as well.
 

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Concerning what One Piece is, I've done a little bit of digging and this is my take on it:
WHAT IS ONE PIECE



To explain what it is, I'll be covering the subjects below and then concluding with what it is by showing how the Journey to finding One Piece is a lure trailing to more than just wealth.

ONE PIECE TREASURE

Gol D. Roger is the very first Pirate King and the owner of One Piece. What we currently know at a basic level concerning One Piece treasure is that it exists as confirmed by Whitebeard and Roger.

It's on an Island in the New World which we can conclude is Raftel based on what Crocus seems to be implying here in light of Roger's conversation with Whitebeard.


He's also confirmed that it is indeed a treasure as he responded to the question; his final words were...
Lead 1: One Piece leads to the Grand Line.
WHAT ONE PIECE WILL LEAD TO?

One Piece Treasure leads to something that's far greater than wealth, it leads to things that can change the world. In order to prove this, one has to ask this:

Why is Sengoku mad about Whitebeard confirming the existence of One Piece if all it leads to is treasure?

If treasure is such a "Big Deal", why's Chinjao's treasure that's stored in the Ice Continent untouched?
Chinjao can't access his treasure due to Garp deforming his pointy head which he explains in Dressrosa (30 years after his deformity) and he confirms that Sai can now access the treasure now that he's gained the power to do so.

If wealth isn't why looking for One Piece is such a Taboo, what is?
People becoming pirates? That in itself is problematic, but that's not much of a threat to the Government with their military power. The most likely thing that could be problematic pandemic to the World Government is it leads to Poneglyphs.
Lead 2: The Grand Line leads to Poneglyphs.

PONEGLYPH


Poneglyphs are these cube shaped objects and they're scattered all over the One Piece world.

They're very important, they have inscribed on them the description of the Ancient Weapons; location of Ancient Weapons and the truth about what occurred during the Void Century.
The people of Ohara who Nico Robin is a descendant of were archaeologists who were aware of the Void Century and capable of deciphering the inscriptions; so the World Government eradicated them all to keep this history a secret rendering it impossible to know of this history. Unbeknownst to the World Government, there is another way to decipher the inscriptions on Poneglyphs and that is through a gift known as Voice.Of.All.Things (V.O.A.T).

The Voice of all things is explained here in detail.
Before we get too far ahead of ourselves, the truth and Ancient Weapons can't be attained without the ability to decipher the Poneglphs and we know the Ohara Scholars were wiped out to make this impossible.

VOAT is a gift which gives one the ability to hear the voice of all things, with this ability one could decipher the Poneglyphs even without the intellectual knowledge to do so as Rayleigh says.

Despite theire inability to read Poneglyph, Roger's ability helped them to learn about the Void Century and Location of Ancient Weapons.

Take note that Rayleigh tells Robin that learning about the history of the Void Century will lead them to "answers" or a final conclusion in probably how best to save the world

Luffy has also proven to possess this gift known as VOAT.

Roger too has exhibited the ability to hear Sea-kings which proves Luffy definitely possesses it.
Lead 3: The Poneglyphs leads to Void Century & Ancient Weapons.
THE TRUTH OF THE VOID CENTURY

Just like the Ancient Weapons, the truth can also only be learn through Poneglyphs. We know the 20 Kingdoms oppressed all races severly.

We know there was an Ancient Kingdom, and what the 20 Kingdom found to be even more of a threat than the Ancient Weapons were their ideologies which one can speculate to be based on freedom.

Being that the 20 Kingdoms (WG) run on slavery, they had to obliterate this Ancient Kingdom that posed a threat to their system. We can believe this because the 20 Kingdoms condoned the slavery of all races especially non-humans.

For more in-depth and related info, read the spoiler:
WHAT IS D. AND WHO ARE THEY?
D. is an initial that's shared by various people all over One Piece, they're also a clan, but even they're more specifically the remnants or survivors of an Ancient Kingdom. For more details, click the following link. - Ancient Kingdom's Secrets

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE D. CLAN?

The Ancient Kingdom was destroyed by 20 Kingdoms who were threatened by their Ideals and philosophies which they wanted to perpetuate throughout the world, but were stopped from doing so by supposedly wiping them out of existence; this essentially means the Void Century only exists because of the Ancient Kingdom (the clan of D).

WHAT IS A WILL

A will exists when one dies and is then inherited by a successor, sometimes a Will is also a request made by someone whose death is unequivocally imminent. Remember the Ds or Ancient Kingdom were wiped out because they had a philosophy or ideal they wanted to spread which is similar to that of the Revolutionary Army. Though, because they expected death, they left messages on Poneglyphs so the chosen one would read them and carry out the will.

THEME OF WILLS AND DREAMS

These are things that can't cannot be stopped; inherited wills, the destiny of an age and the dreams of its people. As long as people continue to pursue the meaning of freedom, these things will never cease to be! -
Gol D. Roger
Roger is basically saying a man's life will be extinguished and will eventually die due to the flow of time; in contrast and ironically, concepts like "Dreams" and "Wills" which seem to lack the subtance of man never die as long as time goes on because either someone will inherit similar dreams/will or be inspired by one's dream, it inherently makes these concepts immortal which is why they're treasured and not to be underestimated out of foolishness.

An example would be the case of Calgara's promise to Norland which ended up being carried out by inspiring future generations; just like this dream/promise was carried out, the same can be expected of D's Will.

THE WILL OF D

Due to their supposed being annihilated, their ideals and philosophy has now become a will which is what's currently being carried out only by those who share similar philosophy even if subconsciously like is the case with Luffy. The theme of this ideal is Freedom, something both Roger and Luffy share which is why they're the beacons of the Will of D.

Another surprising aspect of the Will of D is that it has the power to intervene in situations to favour those who share the will; in a sense the Will of D is also a power similar to what one would call "good luck", not just simply a will.

OCCASIONS WHERE D'S WILL INTERVENED


Rocinante questioning if it's his own will...
to save Law or D's will. he doesn't care any more as he's grown a soft spot for Law who really was doomed to death. He's a world Noble, yet he's helping out a D. bearer, this is D's will at work by influencing Rocinante.

There's also the occasion where Luffy was to be executed...
and as he was about to die smiling, lightening struck his executor; Luffy has a significant role to play in D's will so it saves him.

Luffy at the battle of Marineford...
from Impel Down was being assisted by Ivankov and Whitebeard; during the battle Ivankov realized why people seemed to have a natural affinity to assisting Luffy and it's because of D's will to protect him as he has a purpose to accomplish.

Luffy defeating Doflamingo...
was not just off his own power; powerful pirates in the right place at the right time? an Admiral who won't apprehend him? This is the Will of D. at work.
Note: The 'prime' advocate for the 'Will of D' is Luffy, everything will centre around him. Law survived so he could be of assistance to Luffy in the future; in a sense Luffy is the incarnate of D's will.

WHAT ARE ANCIENT WEAPONS

To be brief there are 3 Ancient weapons; they're Pluton, Poseidon and Uranus. All 3 are powerful enough to destroy the world and should anyone be capable enough of controlling them; they'd be able to rule the world.
The one Ancient weapon that can't belong to a person is Poseidon; the power of Poseidon resides in a Mermaid known as Shirahoshi. Being that she's inherited with this power, she's granted the power to both communicate and control Sea Kings and this power belongs to her alone.

There are 2 other Ancient weapons known as Uranus and Pluton which are powerful enough to destroy the world. Pluton is a huge ship and very little is known about Uranus. Roger has found one of them and Shiki who was a formidable pirate (owning the largest armada of pirates) wants possession of it; unfortunately for him, Roger wasn't willing to partner with him and share this weapon to rule the world.
Based on this, I've come to believe the chances that one of these Ancient Weapons (Pluton or Uranus) is in the same location as Roger's One Piece. It's also important to know how to find these Ancient Weapons, or at least to learn about them.

ANCIENT WEAPON: POSEIDON

Firstly, Queen Otohime tells us there'sa prophecy which claims that someone will appear who can guide Poseidon (Shirahoshi) and clearly, that person is Luffy.

Secondly, though Luffy can communicate with the Sea Kings and hear them, however, he need Shiarahoshi to order them to obey Luffy as they exist only to obey her (Poseidon).

The Sea-Kings can carry heavy things such as Noah and Pluton also being a ship might require the strength of the Sea-kings, so it's quite possible Uranuss may equally be gigantic. If this is the case, it explains why Roger couldn't use it and how important it was to have known Poseidon for D's Will to be carried out.

Luffy being friends with Poseidon means he can:
  • He can use Noah too and Ancient Weapons if they require the Sea-King's strength.
Ultimately guide Shirahoshi.
Lead 4: The Void Century results in hatred for the Celestial Dragons and WG system.
THE WORLD NOBLES

They're also known as Tenryuubito, they perceive themselves to be gods because they're the founders of the WG and were originally the kings of kingdoms like Dressrosa, Alabasta, Drum Kingdom, etc.

They all moved to Mariejois and put retainers in other words to rule in their steed; these former kings became known as World Nobles while the rulers of the kingdoms who are below the World Nobles became kings.

It is because they literally rulers the world by lineage and owners of the WG which makes them even superior to the Gorosei; this is why they're free to break the law killing people and buying slaves in Mariejois which is an illegal act everywhere else.

Since they do control the world and own the World Government, they're able to summon Admirals on a whim and so as they please.
Lead 5: All accumuated knowledge leads to war against WG.
WHITEBEARD'S DEATH & PROPHECY

This is ultimately why Whitebeard says this at his death besides reinstigating reasons to seek One Piece as it's still not been found for 24-25 years after Roger's death. Don't forget Whitebeard spoke to Roger before he got arrested, so Roger had the time to inform him on this mysteries
Prophecy:

Whitebeard: And in future, someday, a man will appear bearing the weight if centuries of history on his shoulders to challenge the world!! Sengoku, your World Government afraid...afraid of the war that will engulf the world!!! I wasn't interested, but when someone finds that treasure, the world will be shaken to its core; somebody will find it, that day will certainly come. ONE PIECE IS REAL!!! -
Result of Prophecy:

LUFFY'S DESTINY - ROGER'S PLAN



Luffy is ultimately this chosen man; both future Pirate King and greatest threat to the World Government's dictatorship over the world destined to extend true freedom to the world.
Roger declared the existence of One Piece and urged people to seek it right? People like Luffy became Pirates and went seeking One Piece, but out of the millions of people that go seeking One Piece, surely 1 individual will take the same exact route as Gol D. Roger? Correct, Luffy did so far.

20 years ago which is 2 years before Roger was executed, he visited Sky Island (Skypiea arc) and he left a message for whoever followed his route which is why he created the Pirate Ge to urge many people to become Pirates with the premise that at least 1 person would take the same route he did.

As his message said "we came here and followed its guidance", he wants whoever taking his path to follow the guidance of the Poneglyph.
 
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I think that the ONE PIECE is a ability and not a physical thing.

The One Piece was Roger's treasure and I assume it was the ability to HEAR THE VOICE OF ALL THINGS. It is hinted through the series that it is a very, very exclusive (and important) ability and the only previous person that is confirmed to have it was Gol D. Roger. I would guess that "Joy Boy" also had it. And now Luffy has it.

It would fit the plot perfectly - that's why Whitebeard never went for the One Piece (or, actually, he tried to find it: He wanted Ace to be The Pirate King, maybe thinking that Ace was the One Piece). To endorse this we can relate the fact the when Whitebeard talked about the One Piece, he also talked "about the person that Roger was expecting". This would also explain why Shanks does not go after the One Piece (because he knows what it is) and they both know that they can not be "The Pirate King".

I would also assume that the ability to hear "The Voice of All Things" have more things envolved, the charisma, the ability to make everyone in the sea your ally (the strongest ability in the world). It is a innate ability much like Shirahoshi's.

I theorise that the One Piece would be portrayed as a actually "Ancient Weapon", along with Pluton, Poseidon and Uranus.
 

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I think that the ONE PIECE is a ability and not a physical thing.

The One Piece was Roger's treasure and I assume it was the ability to HEAR THE VOICE OF ALL THINGS. It is hinted through the series that it is a very, very exclusive (and important) ability and the only previous person that is confirmed to have it was Gol D. Roger. I would guess that "Joy Boy" also had it. And now Luffy has it.

It would fit the plot perfectly - that's why Whitebeard never went for the One Piece (or, actually, he tried to find it: He wanted Ace to be The Pirate King, maybe thinking that Ace was the One Piece). To endorse this we can relate the fact the when Whitebeard talked about the One Piece, he also talked "about the person that Roger was expecting". This would also explain why Shanks does not go after the One Piece (because he knows what it is) and they both know that they can not be "The Pirate King".

I would also assume that the ability to hear "The Voice of All Things" have more things envolved, the charisma, the ability to make everyone in the sea your ally (the strongest ability in the world). It is a innate ability much like Shirahoshi's.

I theorise that the One Piece would be portrayed as a actually "Ancient Weapon", along with Pluton, Poseidon and Uranus.
Wait, the first part of your post contradicts the last one, don't you think? If OP is the ability to hear the voice of all things then Luffy already has it. It could come into play in finding the OP, but I think you misunderstood the part about WB and Roger. The latter was willing to show him how, but WB simply isn't interested in finding treasure, or even being the PK, simple as that.
And if OP is yet another weapon then it will be disappointing. We already know there are 3 ancient weapons, not more. And how exactly would it be useful? I'm more of the mind that whatever is there will be useful in uncovering the truth about the void century, which will help in taking down the Tenryuubito. In which case having the rio poneglyph would allow just that. So even if there was a weapon there, Luffy simply can't just use it, without knowing why.
 
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