Chapter Shuumatsu no Valkyrie Chapter 39 Spoilers & Discussion

Demonspeed · Dec 3, 2020

This chapter was awesome! It blows the Shiva's chapters out of the water. I am glad the author focused on that aspect of Raiden instead of the hedonist side he showed during his introduction.

Samael Morningstar · Dec 3, 2020

Raiden is probably the strongest physical human fighter of the tournament till now. Dude still has 3 more such OP moves the only thing shiva can do now is if he somehow dances endlessly and becomes stronger faster and more clones or much better shiva better does the Chika Dance and one shot Raiden

Demonspeed · Dec 3, 2020

Samael Morningstar said:
Raiden is probably the strongest physical human fighter of the tournament till now. Dude still has 3 more such OP moves the only thing shiva can do now is if he somehow dances endlessly and becomes stronger faster and more clones or much better shiva better does the Chika Dance and one shot Raiden

You think he is stronger than Adam?

Orion · Dec 3, 2020

Samael Morningstar said:
Chika Dance

You can't mean...

If so, GG Raiden :XD

Samael Morningstar · Dec 3, 2020

Demonspeed said:
You think he is stronger than Adam?

Nah, Adam is a hax type like he generally adapts to any opponent thrown at him, he would just copy their strength in fact stronger. So if Raiden were to fight Adam, Adam will just adapt and get stronger than Raiden and beat him. Adam's actual base strength is unknown, I mean Adam was to face shiva and Raiden was to face Zeus right.

Sanity Check · Dec 5, 2020

Shiva? ^

Samael Morningstar · Dec 5, 2020

Yo low multiversal Zeus and Adam for the Win

Hll · Dec 7, 2020

A fantastic chapter.

For someone supporting Shiva and expecting him to win, this definitely makes things immensely difficult for Shiva.

Like Shiva is getting clapped and this is not even Raidens final form.

The only option left for Shiva now, is to have another secret technique,otherwise, this is another one for humanity.

This will however confirm the jibes that the author is biased towards Japanese characters if Raiden wins though, since there is no way Kintoki and Souji are going to lose.

Kato756 said:
If Indian people already got mad at Fate Grander Order, imagine if they read shuumatsu

Wait... non-otaku Indians are aware of FGo?
When did this happen?

Kato756 · Dec 7, 2020

Hll said:
A fantastic chapter.

For someone supporting Shiva and expecting him to win, this definitely makes things immensely difficult for Shiva.

Like Shiva is getting clapped and this is not even Raidens final form.

The only option left for Shiva now, is to have another secret technique,otherwise, this is another one for humanity.

This will however confirm the jibes that the author is biased towards Japanese characters if Raiden wins though, since there is no way Kintoki and Souji are going to lose.

Wait... non-otaku Indians are aware of FGo?
When did this happen?

I dont know how actual big the uproar was (if it made.into the news or was just one random indian on reddit), but the release of Parvarti and her being a white japanese school girl even lead to harassement of the artist on twitter.

Samael Morningstar · Dec 8, 2020

Hll said:
A fantastic chapter.

For someone supporting Shiva and expecting him to win, this definitely makes things immensely difficult for Shiva.

Like Shiva is getting clapped and this is not even Raidens final form.

The only option left for Shiva now, is to have another secret technique,otherwise, this is another one for humanity.

This will however confirm the jibes that the author is biased towards Japanese characters if Raiden wins though, since there is no way Kintoki and Souji are going to lose.

Wait... non-otaku Indians are aware of FGo?
When did this happen?

Wait there's still at least 2 more things shiva can do(theorizing) I mean it's been confirmed that Tandava is ONE of the secrets of Shiva and Varuna mostly said he used tandava against him and beat him while Brahma never gave any reaction to it. When you look at it Varuna is Water so against water he used Tandava which is heat and fire an opposite of it so against Brahma the creation God he must definitely had used some Destruction related powers. So IMO Shiva has not at all fought as the God of destruction till now which I think he'll use his destruction powers the next chapter.
The other one I think is probably him fusing his Tandava and his destruction based power and creating a new power/mode of fighting against Raiden, probably it'll be called Dance of destruction I guess or something else
So I think Shiva still has 2 more things in his arsenal. But with this said I'm not saying Shiva's gonna win or anything, nothing is predictable at this moment, anything can happen

Hll · Dec 8, 2020

Kato756 said:
I dont know how actual big the uproar was (if it made.into the news or was just one random indian on reddit), but the release of Parvarti and her being a white japanese school girl even lead to harassement of the artist on twitter.

Oh reddit is understandable, I have seen people call some other game anti Hindu because of how krishna is a villain in a game.

But India does not have enough Fate fans, for people to lose their shit over FGO. I am surprised that Parvati is what made people mad. That is one of the safest designs as far as Indian sensitivities are concerned. it is not as if she is less revealing in Indian depictions.

I would have expected Sitas design to really piss people off. That is a complete no go zone.

Samael Morningstar said:
Wait there's still at least 2 more things shiva can do(theorizing) I mean it's been confirmed that Tandava is ONE of the secrets of Shiva and Varuna mostly said he used tandava against him and beat him while Brahma never gave any reaction to it. When you look at it Varuna is Water so against water he used Tandava which is heat and fire an opposite of it so against Brahma the creation God he must definitely had used some Destruction related powers. So IMO Shiva has not at all fought as the God of destruction till now which I think he'll use his destruction powers the next chapter.
The other one I think is probably him fusing his Tandava and his destruction based power and creating a new power/mode of fighting against Raiden, probably it'll be called Dance of destruction I guess or something else
So I think Shiva still has 2 more things in his arsenal. But with this said I'm not saying Shiva's gonna win or anything, nothing is predictable at this moment, anything can happen

I am actually hoping that Shiva opens his third eye. He is the only God among all the participants who has actually killed another God in lore, they made some stupid story up to hype Poseidon, but the God who actuallly killed someone is not even brought up.

I think Tandav is just the beginning, I fully expect if they dont have him being able to vaporize others, he will push himself to the limit with Tandav, going completely supernova.

Demonspeed · Dec 8, 2020

I planned to do this earlier but I forgot.

Added a poll!

Samael Morningstar · Dec 8, 2020

Hll said:
Oh reddit is understandable, I have seen people call some other game anti Hindu because of how krishna is a villain in a game.

But India does not have enough Fate fans, for people to lose their shit over FGO. I am surprised that Parvati is what made people mad. That is one of the safest designs as far as Indian sensitivities are concerned. it is not as if she is less revealing in Indian depictions.

I would have expected Sitas design to really piss people off. That is a complete no go zone.

I am actually hoping that Shiva opens his third eye. He is the only God among all the participants who has actually killed another God in lore, they made some stupid story up to hype Poseidon, but the God who actuallly killed someone is not even brought up.

I think Tandav is just the beginning, I fully expect if they dont have him being able to vaporize others, he will push himself to the limit with Tandav, going completely supernova.

Well I don't remember shiva killing any God he just defeated them and rose to top along with Rudra. Tbh I don't there's anything with that third eye thingy in this series. Like if you notice then his 3rd eye is always opened and there's no implications of his eyes having any power in the manga, the only times he ever opened all 5 eyes are when he's either angry or completely shocked etc I. E when he encounters some Extreme Emotions then all his eyes open but those also never showed anything of a power boost related or anything. So I don't think there'll any eye related power ups or ability

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Demonspeed said:
I planned to do this earlier but I forgot.

Added a poll!

Oh boy, probably the toughest poll

Meliodaf · Dec 9, 2020

Demonspeed said:
This chapter was awesome! It blows the Shiva's chapters out of the water. I am glad the author focused on that aspect of Raiden instead of the hedonist side he showed during his introduction.

I agree completely although I also enjoy hedonist Raiden. I loved his introduction :xp

TarXan · Dec 19, 2020

The Raider fight ends with the upcoming double chaired, what’re some predictions???

I think it’ll be a tie maybe ? Or Shiva will go out in a glorious death with everyone chanting for him while he’s getting beaten down but he keeps getting back up