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Any theories or ideas on what Zeldris’ original power is?
 

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I will just wait next week to find it out.

Honestly tho, I have no idea what his original magic power is but I hope it is something haxed.
 

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I will just wait next week to find it out.

Honestly tho, I have no idea what his original magic power is but I hope it is something haxed.
I agree for me besides knowing Meliodas’ innate magic ability, Zel has also been up there for me cause I just felt it DK’s power wasn’t the only thing
 

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Probably works like what the head of the Shinigami used to beat Ywach. It's definitely darkness based. The ability to cut through anything is Arthurs Mythological power so that probably not it.
 

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Considering its name (God) it is probably a magic which ignores all obstacles, augmenting his power by destroying all other magics. Hence why he could effortlessly no diff a powered up Drole, his attacks completely neutralise any magic or physical defence which the enemy puts up.
 

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It being described as a "spear" it's pretty interesting, maybe it's the ability to be able to cut everything as it has already been said. That combined with God which is described as "the strongest shield" could make a deadly combo.

Hopefully it's something impressive. It has to be in order for him to keep up with Ludociel's ridiculous power level.
 

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Considering its name (God) it is probably a magic which ignores all obstacles, augmenting his power by destroying all other magics. Hence why he could effortlessly no diff a powered up Drole, his attacks completely neutralise any magic or physical defence which the enemy puts up.
He sealed Drole's magic.
 

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It'd have a dimensional effect like:
 

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No idea on what it could be but my guess is that it will be something that the demon king disliked. The demon king made a big deal about meliodas being the only one that could take his throne and also about meliodas' innate magic.

Not sure if its due to a mistranslation but the chapter's final notes refer to the demon king powers zeldris got and his innate magic as contradictory forces...

Ok, came up with a guess regarding zeldris' power.... Maybe it relates to how he got his nickname "executioner"? Maybe a sort of one hit kill technique.
 

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I'm going to take the editor's note with a pinch of salt, but if it is true, there are some interesting implications.

The editor's note references the two magics as contradictory forces, with one translation evoking the strongest shield and strongest spear comparison, which relates to the concept of Immovable Object and Unstoppable Force. Ruler makes him an Immovable Object, so, obviously, his magic must be the Unstoppable Force.

Seeing the Masters jump back, I assume the magic doesn't discriminate.
 

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I honestly have no idea? I'll take a guess that works with all the known variables though.

Maybe it works by sending blades or particles of darkness to assault the area around him at a molecular level, ruining all living tissue in the area including his own body. In essence, it doesn't discriminate, which is why the Masters were quick to jump away lest they be caught in it. The Demon Kings magic acts as a shield, allowing him to remain uneffected by his own power, which is why he can only use it in tandem with "The Demon King". This also offers an explanation as to why Zel didn't use it earlier; it would also severely harm and kill his allies. It'd also justify the title of the next Chapter perfectly, what with the ability being darkness oriented.
 

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I honestly have no idea? I'll take a guess that works with all the known variables though.

Maybe it works by sending blades or particles of darkness to assault the area around him at a molecular level, ruining all living tissue in the area including his own body. In essence, it doesn't discriminate, which is why the Masters were quick to jump away lest they be caught in it. The Demon Kings magic acts as a shield, allowing him to remain uneffected by his own power, which is why he can only use it in tandem with "The Demon King". This also offers an explanation as to why Zel didn't use it earlier; it would also severely harm and kill his allies. It'd also justify the title of the next Chapter perfectly, what with the ability being darkness oriented.
I like this theory very much and art wise I feel that it'd look amazing
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I genuinely feel that Zel’s magic will share some likeness to Mel’s innate ability but it won’t be obvious. Zel’s magic I feel can be considered a close second to Mel’s when it comes to how dangerous it is but I do feel it’s not as destructive and the fact that the last page of chapter 286 stated that his power and the DK’s are contradictory forces but in a way maybe they complement it each other
 

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I honestly have no idea? I'll take a guess that works with all the known variables though.

Maybe it works by sending blades or particles of darkness to assault the area around him at a molecular level, ruining all living tissue in the area including his own body. In essence, it doesn't discriminate, which is why the Masters were quick to jump away lest they be caught in it. The Demon Kings magic acts as a shield, allowing him to remain uneffected by his own power, which is why he can only use it in tandem with "The Demon King". This also offers an explanation as to why Zel didn't use it earlier; it would also severely harm and kill his allies. It'd also justify the title of the next Chapter perfectly, what with the ability being darkness oriented.
That sounds interesting.

I think the "contradictory forces" stuff is about how Zeldris wields both the strongest shield and the strongest spear. One can't have a spear that can pierce through any defense and a shield that can't be pierced by any spear.
矛盾 is a japanese word for "paradox" and is composed from​
"spear" and​
"shield".​
 

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Firstly his ability is called "spear"so spears have longer range in malee combat ,his power probably has some ranged or distance type attacks too which is why Chandler and Cusack jumped behind.
So my guess is he gets some type of darkness spear looking weapon which can pierce really fast(one of reason why Zeldris is fastest swordsmen in demon clan) and can be used for long range attacks in similar way javelins are used.
 
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Firstly his ability is called "spear"so spears have longer range in malee combat ,his power probably has some ranged or distance type attacks too which is why Chandler and Cusack jumped behind.
So my guess is he gets some type of darkness spear looking weapon which can pierce really fast(one of reason why Zeldris is fastest swordsmen in demon clan) and can be used for long range attacks in similar way javelins are used.
That was just a "metaphorical" expression, as The Ruler itself was called "the strongest shield", so your theory is invalid!
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I think that Zeldris OG Magic is simply whatever the opposite of inversion is! In other words, the "Offensive" aspect of The Ruler.
 

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I think that Zeldris OG Magic is simply whatever the opposite of inversion is! In other words, the "Offensive" aspect of The Ruler.
If you wanted to stretch it, Combo Star would be that, as attacking successfully fortifies your future attacks.

That said, you can't really inverse an inversion. That's just...regular stuff happening as intended.
 

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What do you think about it now that's been revealed? I like it but I find that it looks too much like a special technique and not an ability. I hope he'll show more versatility with it.
 

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What do you think about it now that's been revealed? I like it but I find that it looks too much like a special technique and not an ability. I hope he'll show more versatility with it.
I don't like that he must remain immobile to do ON.

But beside that, it is an okay magic power.
 
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