When did I say Kagura is better or had more skills? That is twisting my words. I literally repeated myself that Kagura is a match for Dimaria and Wahl... Meaning she should be on par.
Yes, you did. That was literally the first sentence in your prior reply.
I never said Kagura was stronger than Wahl or Dimaria. I clearly stated that Kagura outclassed Wahl in speed and overwhelmed Dimaria in skills.
What does Wahl's Missles exploding have anything to do with this? The fact is that it explodes upon impact and Dimaria was able to cut it before it did any damage.
A lot. You're taking kagura's feat there out of context. She didn't tank the missiles. She destroyed them and moved before the explosion. Again, a reference to her speed not strength (and certainly zero meaning if compared to Wahl since that was just an attack). You said that the missiles were as powerful or even more powerful than those used against Laxus, thereby implying Kagura is within that range of strength since she destroyed the missiles but again, the destructive ability of the missiles are irrelevant here if Kagura had already moved to a safe location. If she had cut and tanked the missiles, then your statement would hold more water.
Who said Dimaria would kill Kagura in one hit? What proof do you have that Kagura would have lost? Those are such baseless claims. If anything, Kagura demonstrated that she is Spriggan Tier. Yes, I remember Ajeel. Your point? Gray and Natsu have the power to solo Ajeel so the fact that he praised them doesn't mean anything. If anything, that is a counter-statement to your own post. Dimaria was barely trying but what about Kagura? Instead of looking from one perspective, look at the other too. The battle was just getting started. Kagura being surprised by Dimaria's power doesn't mean she would lose. By that logic, Team Natsu would lose against Ajeel and Dimaria because they were shocked at their power levels. But, we already saw Natsu and Erza fight a Spriggan. And the outcome? Jellal pushing Kagura away prevented Kagura from getting hurt. It doesn't mean she would have been killed by that attack or died. Let's face it, the battle was inconclusive. To label that as Kagura being weaker than the Spriggans is like saying Erza is weaker as well for being saved by Jellal + Kagura against Neinhart.
You're misunderstanding me. I said the spriggans are used to effortlessly defeating their opponents so when they meet someone who actually doesn't get KO instantly, they get impressed. Especially since they thought Ishgar was basically fodder mages. Baseless to claim Gray is as strong as a spriggan. We've actually not seen anything to imply that. It's just the general belief since he should be Natsu's equal but he has to prove himself first. My point was that gray used his Ice DS move which Ajeel shrugged off even though he praised them. Natsu could do so yeah, but he'd likely need FDKM. Anyway, that's beside the point.
Kagura never demonstrated she's spriggan tier. I mean, freaking Wendy was able to kick Dimaria back. Does that make Wendy spriggan tier? And keep in mind that Wendy actually gave Dimaria a bruise. Something Kagura never did to a spriggan even though she had the opportunity against two.
Looking from the other perspective just shows us Kagura quaking just from Dimaria showing up. Nope, that's not my logic. I clearly stated that it doesn't mean Kagura would automatically lose. Besides, their reaction was rather different. Team Natsu were indeed shocked at Brandish's MP, but note that there was no mention of any of them being that overwhelmed. Gray commented that Ajeel was better than the old man, Natsu held his arm with Igneel's Mp etc. we literally have no panel of them being as overwhelmed as Kagura was.
Didn't say she would've been killed in one attack, but you're posing it as though Jellal got in the way when he was literally saving her. My point was that you said she had no chance to show what she's got but she faced two spriggans. First time, we have her being overwhelmed by Dimaria's MP. Next, we have Jellal jumping in to save her from Neinhart's attack. Inferences can be made from these.
What is your point? Kagura and Erza have not shown any feats that would make us believe that they are not even close in power. Please show me proof from this arc that would support such a claim. Kagura literally has feats that matches Erza.
There's one, Erza beat Kagura and then Minerva. This is just like Laxus beating Wahl and then beating Hades afterwards and someone claims either of these two are on laxus' level. If they were, he would've lost to the other.
It's not natural to compliment in a battle... The fact that she did just means her opponent is worthy. Ajeel did the same to Erza. Wahl did the same to Laxus. But we didn't see Dimaria do the same to Wendy/Chelia...
It is, especially when the person complimenting believes they're superior. Dimaria didn't do the same because Wendy started by kicking her in the face. She got pissed. Naturally you don't compliment someone for kicking you in the face. And well, Wendy managing to kick (and bruise) Dimaria goes over Kagura being complimented when she never managed to do anything.
It was PoF though. She was injured and then got back up talking about the power of her Nakama. If that isn't PoF, please give me another definition.
It's irrelevant what it was. If Erza has PoF, it's part of her strengths. Why didn't Kagura think of her nakama and all to overcome Erza/Minerva?
You realize that PoF doesn't actually mean Erza gets power from her nakama or an external source? The power is still coming from her. She simply pushes herself beyond her limits and does her utmost to emerge victorious for the sake of her friends. No nakama was feeding her MP or anything so the credit still completely goes to Erza.
Not necessarily. Erza would have lost against Ajeel without the help from Jupiter Cannon. If Kagura had the same advantage, is it possible that she could defeat a Spriggan? Yes. When did a Spriggan say that their opponents' powers are ridiculous? Sure, the reason why Erza, Laxus, and Jellal's attacks make the Spriggans cower in fear because those were their finishing moves. Kagura never had the chance. She barely even warmed up in her fights considering she didn't use her magic at all.
Well, maybe, but my point stands. Jupiter cannon is weaker than Erza. She could already tank it when she was leagues weaker than she currently is. Ajeel himself deflected it with his bare hands before thus showing its actual damage to him is little. In the end, it was that effective because Erza had already done substantial damage to him prior and at she still needed to attack again to KO him. Well, you answered the question yourself. Again, they got there because they were constantly matching or keeping up with the spriggans until they used their finishing moves. No one had to save them in the midst of battle unlike Kagura.
Maybe Kagura can, but that's if she has someone stronger than her in battle. She's the support not the lead. That's the difference. Just look at the battle against neinhart. She gets saved (twice btw) and Jellal gets stuck underwater because of that so she brings her back. She attacks to remove the obstruction (Simon's as historia). Mashima has her on the background when he would've had her up front or fighting equally.
