TO Chelia didn't one-shot Dimaria. She weakened her first, and then used a finishing move.
Meanwhile, God Serena off-paneled the 3 Gods of Ishgar + Jura (He might've not used any magic as he wasn't even exhausted or sweating) and then defeated them with No Difficulty afterwards.
Dimaria wasn't one shotted, where on earth are you getting that from?
They traded blows for a while before Sherria finished her off, with Wendy providing the shield
TO Chelia didn't one-shot Dimaria. She weakened her first, and then used a finishing move.
Meanwhile, God Serena off-paneled the 3 Gods of Ishgar + Jura (He might've not used any magic as he wasn't even exhausted or sweating) and then defeated them with No Difficulty afterwards.
Dimaria wasn't one shotted, where on earth are you getting that from?
They traded blows for a while before Sherria finished her off, with Wendy providing the shield
Well sure, I can agree that Chelia didn't exactly oneshot Dimaria.
But I thought we were all going strictly by feats, right?
If you look back at the panels you posted , all of her previous attacks weren't God Slaying Spells. They were merely powerful physical attacks.
We have feats that one shot from Chelia's God Slaying Spell took out Dimaria.
And as for God Serena, we can't assume that he might've not used any magic. We go by the feats....
God Serena used a combo of different Dragon Slaying Magic, and the GOI's and Jura still moved and talked at the end. I'd say, at maximum, the GOI's and Jura sustained moderate-major injuries.
This is a bit of a tough one to decide tbh. On one hand you have God Serena who solo'd the Gods of Ishgar (most of it was off-panel so we can only speculate on how he beat them), and on the other hand you have Third Origin Sherria who has all of the magic power etc. that she'd of obtained in her whole life. Even with God Serena's eight types of Dragon Slayer magic, Sherria can still heal herself and eat God Serena's Hurricane Dragon magic if he used that at any point, so there's that as well. Seeing both have pretty high offensive power, especially Sherria with her doing the majority of the damage to Dimaria with one attack like what Natsu did to Jacob, I'm giving this to Sherria high diff. Being able to heal herself of any injuries gets her over the line imo.
those punches were actually magical.not like God Slaying Fist or whatever but they were from a God Slayer.if you remember,her kick,a punch and one more attack undid her God form.not completely but a part of it.she used one God Slaying move and that one was like a Secret Art.
Well sure, I can agree that Chelia didn't exactly oneshot Dimaria.
But I thought we were all going strictly by feats, right?
If you look back at the panels you posted , all of her previous attacks weren't God Slaying Spells. They were merely powerful physical attacks.
We have feats that one shot from Chelia's God Slaying Spell took out Dimaria.
And as for God Serena, we can't assume that he might've not used any magic. We go by the feats....
God Serena used a combo of different Dragon Slaying Magic, and the GOI's and Jura still moved and talked at the end. I'd say, at maximum, the GOI's and Jura sustained moderate-major injuries.
Okay, we won't assume how God Serena off-paneled the 3 Gods of Ishgar + Jura. But you have to admit that although the fight happened off-panel, God Serena wasn't exhausted nor took any damage. Either way, he destroyed them. The fact that the Gods of Ishgar + Jura still moved and talked at the end tells us nothing. Look at where Dimaria is now. She didn't die so she recovered nonetheless. Besides, it is a fact that the combined attack and defense of the 3 Gods of Ishgar + Jura exceeds that of TO Chelia + DF Wendy. So it only makes sense that God Serena would have to use more attacks to take out 4 people instead of 2.
Chelia's healing won't work here. It was noted that Chelia can only recover from her injuries. Her fatigue/energy is still consistent. And because God Serena has more MP than her, she will eventually falter, which will lead to her defeat.
Unless you want to argue that TO Chelia has higher attack power and defense than God Serena, I still don't see how anybody can spin this so that TO Chelia wins.
Okay, we won't assume how God Serena off-paneled the 3 Gods of Ishgar + Jura. But you have to admit that although the fight happened off-panel, God Serena wasn't exhausted nor took any damage. Either way, he destroyed them. The fact that the Gods of Ishgar + Jura still moved and talked at the end tells us nothing. Look at where Dimaria is now. She didn't die so she recovered nonetheless. Besides, it is a fact that the combined attack and defense of the 3 Gods of Ishgar + Jura exceeds that of TO Chelia + DF Wendy. So it only makes sense that God Serena would have to use more attacks to take out 4 people instead of 2.
Chelia's healing won't work here. It was noted that Chelia can only recover from her injuries. Her fatigue/energy is still consistent. And because God Serena has more MP than her, she will eventually falter, which will lead to her defeat.
Unless you want to argue that TO Chelia has higher attack power and defense than God Serena, I still don't see how anybody can spin this so that TO Chelia wins.
Yeah, alright, I think we can agree that Dimaria is fairly uninjured as well.
The fact is that God Serena still used powerful attacks, none of which completely obliterated the GOI and Jura.
Warrod is pretty old and frail and Jura is nowhere near Dimaria. The two best fighters that God Serena beat were Hyberion and Wolfheim.
Meanwhile, TO Chelia beat Dimaria by herself, again, one of the Spriggan 12.
Uh you missed the point for that last paragraph. Sure, Chelia can heal her injuries and not her fatigue, but as I said in the past, she can take care of the fatigue problem simply by eating the air.
Now, not only can she heal her injuries, but she can start spamming secret art spells by eating air. That takes care of the fatigue problem.
In other words:
Injuries? Not a problem, Chelia will just used her magical energy to heal.
Fatigue? Not a problem, Chelia can just eat the air.
those punches were actually magical.not like God Slaying Fist or whatever but they were from a God Slayer.if you remember,her kick,a punch and one more attack undid her God form.not completely but a part of it.she used one God Slaying move and that one was like a Secret Art.
If you're talking about God Serena using powerful attacks as in they are naturally powerful then I agree. But God Serena wasn't going full power or all out. He casually casted those spells in less than a second and didn't even show the other half of his Dragon Slayer Magic. Warrod is old and frail? We're not talking about a person physiology here. Hades is old. But I know for a fact that you hype this guy. The power of each character in Fairy Tail is determined from one's magic power. Seeing how Warrod can casually cast a tree that extends 2000 km in a few seconds tells us just how strong he actually is. Jura may be weaker than Dimaria but combined with the 3 Gods of Ishgar, you can't possibly tell me TO Chelia is on the same level. She is almost fodder to all of them combined.
You use the same sentence, "Meanwhile, TO Chelia beat Dimaria by herself, again, one of the Spriggan 12" to prove TO Chelia's power. Well, guess what? God Serena is one of the Spriggan 12 and he far outclasses Dimaria.
Uh you missed the point for that last paragraph. Sure, Chelia can heal her injuries and not her fatigue, but as I said in the past, she can take care of the fatigue problem simply by eating the air.
Now, not only can she heal her injuries, but she can start spamming secret art spells by eating air. That takes care of the fatigue problem.
In other words:
Injuries? Not a problem, Chelia will just used her magical energy to heal.
Fatigue? Not a problem, Chelia can just eat the air.
No, I didn't miss your point at all. Guess who else can eat the air? God Serena. He might not be able to absorb Chelia's Sky God Slaying Magic but he can replenish himself by eating the air around him with his Wind Dragon Slaying Magic. God Serena can still outrun Chelia in Stamina, Endurance, and MP. Chelia can spam her attacks but so can God Serena. Actually, we've seen more spamming from him than any other character.
If you're talking about God Serena using powerful attacks as in they are naturally powerful then I agree. But God Serena wasn't going full power or all out. He casually casted those spells in less than a second and didn't even show the other half of his Dragon Slayer Magic. Warrod is old and frail? We're not talking about a person physiology here. Hades is old. But I know for a fact that you hype this guy. The power of each character in Fairy Tail is determined from one's magic power. Seeing how Warrod can casually cast a tree that extends 2000 km in a few seconds tells us just how strong he actually is. Jura may be weaker than Dimaria but combined with the 3 Gods of Ishgar, you can't possibly tell me TO Chelia is on the same level. She is almost fodder to all of them combined.
You use the same sentence, "Meanwhile, TO Chelia beat Dimaria by herself, again, one of the Spriggan 12" to prove TO Chelia's power. Well, guess what? God Serena is one of the Spriggan 12 and he far outclasses Dimaria.
No, I didn't miss your point at all. Guess who else can eat the air? God Serena. He might not be able to absorb Chelia's Sky God Slaying Magic but he can replenish himself by eating the air around him with his Wind Dragon Slaying Magic. God Serena can still outrun Chelia in Stamina, Endurance, and MP. Chelia can spam her attacks but so can God Serena. Actually, we've seen more spamming from him than any other character.
God Serena was using pretty powerful attacks even for himself. He used his dragon slaying spells. August even noted that he hadn't seen God Serena being serious in a battle in a long time.
Even God Serena's eyes changed. You can see it grew darker. As for Warrod, he is old and is more of a support than pure combatant.
TO Chelia > Jura
God Serena is a Spriggan, but TO Chelia is also Spriggan level. In fact, TO Chelia > God Serena.
Actually, we have no proof of God Serena being able to eat the wind. Even so, let's say God Serena can eat the air and cancel out with Chelia....
He can't heal himself; therefore, his injuries will catch up faster to him than it will for Chelia.
God Serena was using pretty powerful attacks even for himself. He used his dragon slaying spells. August even noted that he hadn't seen God Serena being serious in a battle in a long time.
August said that they haven't seen his true power in some time.
True Power ≠ Full Power. For example, maybe God Serena didn't use DS magic to take down the 3 Gods of Ishgar + Jura. But once August said that they will see God Serena's true, he used his Dragon Slaying Magic. August never hinted that God Serena went serious or full power.
I don't agree with this statement at all. TO Chelia is on par with Hyberion at max (I'm being lenient here). There is no way she can defeat God Serena considering he defeated Hyberion easily. TO Chelia may be Spriggan Level (Mid-Tier like Dimaria), but she won't stand a chance against God Serena (High-Tier Spriggan Level).
No proof? God Serena is a dragon slayer. He can consume any element that he has in his arsenal just like Laxus and Cobra (2nd Generation Dragon Slayers). In that case, we have no proof that Gray can eat ice.
He doesn't need to heal himself. His durability is higher than Chelia's attack power. Similarly, his attack power is higher than Chelia's defense. As for fatigue, both will replenish themselves but God Serena has more MP to start out with so he'll last longer in battle. As for Chelia, she can heal her injuries but she'll soon run out of energy in which she'll be completely defenseless. Meaning she will be vulnerable to God Serena's attacks and he'll inflict more damage at a faster rate than she can heal. God Serena will win easily that way.
Just keep in mind that injuries is not everything in a fight. One's magic energy is also important as it applies to Stamina and Endurance.
Anyways, it seems like we're really persistent on our opinions and neither of us will change. You can have the last word.
Sherria is powerful with TO, and her ability to heal is strong. The problem is she is facing one of the Spriggan 12, and she only beat Dimaria because of slayer advantage imo, not to mention Wendy helping her, and even then it was not easy. God Serena took out GOI, who I believe are overrated from what I have seen, but they are still pretty skilled. He beat them all pretty easily, which is no small feat for anyone. I did not think Sherria should have made it past last round, so I am certainly not going to take her here. God Serena wins this mid diff imo.
Di Maria has Age Seal to oneshot them, Jacob has Transport to oneshot them, Brandish can shrink and stomp them and Bradman can kill them within the first view seconds.
Di Maria has Age Seal to oneshot them, Jacob has Transport to oneshot them, Brandish can shrink and stomp them and Bradman can kill them within the first view seconds.
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