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How will Kyokuto Necromance perform on Shonen Jump?

  • A Success

  • Decently Well

  • It Will Struggle

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Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #25 (2024)
Kill Blue (Cover & Lead Color Pages; 1st Anniversary)
Blue Box
My Hero Academia
Mission: Yozakura Family
Psych House (Color Page; 2nd Chapter)
SAKAMOTO DAYS
Kyokuto Necromance
Youhei no Hen (Color Page; 47p; Oneshot by Mane Hideaki)
Astro Royale
Jujutsu Kaisen
Akane-banashi (Color Page)
WITCH WATCH
Super Psychic Policeman Chojo
Undead Unluck
Me & Roboco
Nue's Exorcist
Kagurabachi
Green Green Greens
Dear Anemone
ONE PIECE (Absent)
The Elusive Samurai (Absent)


Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #26 (2024) - Preview
Cover & LCP: Nue's Exorcist (1st Anniversary)
CP: Blue Box; Super Psychic Policeman Chojo; Oneshot by Satoushou Masayoshi
Absent: My Hero Academia
 
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I think it's worth remembering that Mashle peaked before anime selling over 100k copies on Oricon while Sakamoto Days never reached 100k on Oricon, it already peaked and still have not a anime announced, not trying to downplay Sakamoto but it's not like the series have "pre anime" explosive sales or anything and it's taking longer than Yozakura to announce a anime, so it wouldn't be a surprise if Sakamoto just loses a big portion of "momentum" like Mashle did, tbh Sakamoto anime should have been announced like a year ago.
I disagree, going by circulation numbers sakamoto days and mashle are doing just about the same at volume 15 .

The fact that it is taking so long for the anime means that the adaptation is by a mainstream studio that is busy right now .

Saying sakamoto days peaked is a bit misleading ,
the peak you mention is at vol 11 with 112k in a month while vol 15 sold 106k in a month , it has not fallen off in sales like mashle did.

Also looking at the toc , you can see that the editorial department believes in sakamoto days a lot more than any other series from the 2020s


It doesn't matter even if the adaptation is awful. It just need to be passable for it to serve as advertising for the manga. Honestly, of TR didn't have the anime as early as it was, the manga sales and popularity wouldn't have been what it is now. Likewise with Bluelock.
The Tokyo revengers and blue lock anime were not early , they were quite late
 

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I disagree, going by circulation numbers sakamoto days and mashle are doing just about the same at volume 15 .

The fact that it is taking so long for the anime means that the adaptation is by a mainstream studio that is busy right now .

Saying sakamoto days peaked is a bit misleading ,
the peak you mention is at vol 11 with 112k in a month while vol 15 sold 106k in a month , it has not fallen off in sales like mashle did.

Also looking at the toc , you can see that the editorial department believes in sakamoto days a lot more than any other series from the 2020s



The Tokyo revengers and blue lock anime were not early , they were quite late
Peak means when you reach full potential as you it is right now, and Sakamoto already reached its peak, which is less than Mashle, with that said, i dont really mean that SD doesnt have the potential to grow more than Mashle with anime, i think it has, but that the manga isnt any MHA, JJK or TPN that were already big sellers much before the anime, so the possibility of becoming a new MHA or something may not be as big as many believe, i think many, including me, also thought Chainsaw Man was going to be the new JJK but wasnt the case
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I'd rather have late anime adaptations that are well done over what WSM does. With that said, it's interesting to see that WSM's biggest hits of recent times, TR & BL, had adaptations that left a lot to be desired, especially TR because wow that adaptation is awful. SxF had an adaptation that did just above the bare minimum and exploded. Then you look at Fire Force, it had a great anime yet fell way short of TR and BL. We've seen what happened to UU recently despite its good visuals.
Fire Force anime not only recovered the lost sales but made the manga cross 200k per volume, so it did the job
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Considering Yozakura has modern art and character designs and Kengo is popular with fujoshis, this might be some advantage when the anime starts.
 

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What do you guys think is the biggest factor for the size of an anime boost? I personally think the biggest factor is how well a series appeals to women. Which kinda seems obvious just from a numbers perspective. I saw a study that showed that women are more likely to get heavily invested in things and pay money for merchandise.
That doesn't compute. If you're selling your manga at shingeki, Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Demon Slayer, Blue Lock, Frieren, Haikyuu level, your series has cross generational, cross age, cross gender appeal. It seems doubtful to say Kingdom blew up by only selling to Women or that One Piece only got big because women rushed to buy it.

You don't sell 30+ million by only selling to girls. You're getting kids, teens, adults, seniors, Otaku, non Otaku and all sorts of non traditional manga readers buying.

Also merchandise can be pretty cheap, can badges and stickers aren't expensive. Even little kids get the cheap stationary set merchandise for school, and the clothes, official, for series are bought by guys and girls. Doujinshi are made by guys and girls as well.

Conclusion, maybe for smaller niche Square exix series you can claim that they exploded by appealing to women, but for the big sellers from shonen jump it doesn't compute. You need to appeal to more than the core manga buying audience (hard core Otaku) to explode.
 
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I remember someone posted a guide about how to subscribe to WSJ japan before. Can someone post/link it here again? Please.
 

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Happy New Year everyone! Being this a Jump-less week, it means it is time for a new episode of...

Jump Retro Review

It works like this: I think of a chapter of any series in Jump history that is important for historical or personal reasons, then I wonder: "what was the magazine doing when this chapter was published?". So I search for every available translated chapter from that particular ToC, and I review all those I can find in order to have a snapshot of which series were ongoing and at what part of the story they were in certain point in time. It's like reading an issue of Jump of the past!

Issue #17, 1999: the one where Luffy and the gang walked to Arlong Park, JoJo classic concluded and Yabuki was debuting with a later axed manga.
Issue #12, 2005: the one where the battle between L and Light had a winner, Matsui debuted with Neuro and many other series delivered their own historical chapter.
Issue #22, 1985: the one where I tried reviewing an issue of the '80s and it was so difficult that I swore to never do that again.
Issue #45. 2011: the one where I wanted to cover a pivotal chapter of HunterXHunter, but I read the wrong issue and got a pivotal chapter of Naruto instead.
Issue #15, 1991: the one where a certain Saiyan turned his hair blonde for the first time, and the history of manga changed forever.
Issue #48, 2008: the one where Jump didn't care to celebrate its 2000th issue, but there are a number of historical chapters anyway, most notably Bleach is about vice-captain Omaeda.
Issue #33, 1997: the one where it was the last time we lived in a world without One Piece, and I thought it would be an easy issue to cover but there are too many unfound chapters.

Take a better look at that list up there, because one of those issues will be important today. I will repeat it here:
Issue #45. 2011: the one where I wanted to cover a pivotal chapter of HunterXHunter, but I read the wrong issue and got a pivotal chapter of Naruto instead.

So you know where this is going, right?


That's right, Issue #43 of 2011. Exactly one year after that mistake (it was December 31st, 2022) I am going to cover the correct issue. I can more or less copy-paste the introduction of that time:
"There are many series of the early '10s that were considered well estabilished at that point, with more or less all genres covered, and some of the "hidden gems" that are still brought up today from time to time. A pretty interesting look at what was the situation of Jump at this point in time."

Here are the chapters that I couldn't cover this time:
Inumarudashii 149
Kochikame 1717 (cover page for the 35th anniversary)
And that's it, like the other time. It is nice to be able to cover almost all the issue after the burn of last time. If anyone knows where I can find any of these series, you can PM and I will gladly update my ranking.

And now let's resume from were we left, one year ago and two issues prior that time. How many things were different in this two weeks of timespan? I guess not much.

1. HunterXHunter 318: At last, the correct chapter. The end of the Chimera arc, all the first pages are in complete darkness representing the point of view of the people talking, searching for each other until the very end. In the last pages, the setup for the arc to follow, the Election arc. We move through pages of infinite text, waiting for chapters like this that we know are worth the journey.
2. Bakuman 149: A great chapter near the end of its run. Set during the winter holidays like with current real-life days, the chapter depicts the struggle of many contenders for a one-shot tournament. People are led to cheer for basically everyone except the arrogant Nanamine, guilty of the greatest sin of Shonen Jump that is mistreating his editor. At the end of the chapter the results arrive…and I won’t spoil them. A wonderful journey condensed in just 19 pages.
3. Kuroko no Basket 135: I remember this chapter from the Mangaplus re-edition (I miss that): it’s when Kagami enters “the Zone” against Aomine. Probably the peak of the series up to that point, a manly display of willpower truly exciting and inspiring for any young boy fan of the series.
4. Toriko 159: A setup chapter: we learn of the president’s full course and we are reminded that Komatsu is lowkey one of the greatest characters of the series. In the end another of the four devils arrives and the next destination is set: the Gourmet Casino! Who read the series can understand the excitement.
5. Gintama 371: A stand-alone Madao chapter. His life is disastrous as ever, and in typical Sorachi style it starts hilarious and then becomes tragic, until it ends on a more hilarious mood. Someone please give Madao an hug.
6. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K one-shot 6: a.k.a. the one-shot named “Clairvoyance”, where the protagonist is vessed by a loner that wants to become friend with an esper. Maybe suffers of Early Installment Weirdness, but it is my first approach to the series…and I found it quite funny. I’d probably read it in a weekly magazine but I don’t know if I would buy a volume.
7. Nurarihyon no Mago 172: The protagonist arrives to save the day at the end of what seems an all vs. all saga. Except this isn’t the final fight yet, because the villain has an ace up his sleeve: a human girl transformed into an Ayakashi. Mago will save her in a festival of shonen tropes, but executed so well it can easily be forgiven.
8. Beelzebub 126: Oga and Kunieda end up in a land of dolls to learn some forbidden technique. The resident dolls oppose them (with hilarious results) and in the end a woman appears: if I recall correctly, two chapters later she will drop heavy backstory bombs on our protagonists. In any case, I liked this chapter more than last time. I still miss Hard-boiled Cop and Dolphin a lot and I don’t care about Tamura’s new series because it is not Hard-boilep Cop and Dolphin.
9. Naruto 557: Two weeks before the groundbreaking chapter that was covered last year, there is a match between Gaara and a resurrected Mitsukage, that definitely doesn’t have the same gravitas. The opponent talks a lot, but in the end the silent sand ninja is able to subdue him.
10. Sket Dance 203: There is a school play where a girl with a dual personality is involved, and when she’s in difficulty her extrovert personality takes over the original introvert and saves the day (and the play). It reminds me of the Kengo-Werewolf dualism in Witch Watch, so I now know that it originates from here.
11. Medaka Box 116: They talk a lot in this series, I’m not surprised now that I know Nisioisin more. A girl (probably rival to Medaka) is trying to convince a certain Zenitsu to switch to her side by promising him a main character role. To do so she quotes like 20 classic Shonen Jump protagonists in a single page, obviously the best page of the whole chapter. Side note: Medaka Box ended at chapter 192, so shorter series were common even then. Even Yozakura has a longer run!
12. Magico 29: This magical fantasy introduces (I think) the brother of the protagonist, who is a fierce representant of the “Affably Evil” category. It isn’t bad for the standards of today for this genre, but the best part is right at the beginning, with the classic "girl who can’t cook" joke taking a twisted and humourus turn.
13. Tutor Hitman Reborn!! 355: Remember Daemon Spade? I don’t, even if I read the series long time ago. Anyway, it is his dying speech where he reminisces about the girl he loved, and then entrusts the future to the main character. I think I would have liked all of this when I was younger, but now I find it all too cringey for my taste.
14. St&rs 13: Looks like all the gang passed the exam to enter the astronaut academy, and there are misteries surrounding the main character and the new girl that debuted at the end of the chapter. I’ll avoid being intrigued because given the short tenure of the series I’m not sure that the payoff would be worth it.
15. Kurogane 5: The protagonist has his first kendo match, his minuscule sidekick probably awakens some kind of powers in him but he can’t control them and is on the verge of losing badly. Nothing that screams “let’s not axe this”.
16. Bleach 466: During the Fullbringer arc, Hitsugaya wins easily against an opponent that is too distracted from talking about his melodramatic past. I felt it was dumb and probably at the time Kubo was uninspired, and didn’t really know how to conclude his fights.
17. Enigma 51: As I was saying one year ago, I remember this series for a pretty strong first arc and an utterly disappointing run from there on. Here we are close to the end, so you can guess my enjoyment. There is also a twist in the identity of the Cannibal, I suppose that if I was remembering the story this would have been mildly interesting.
18. Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa 14: The romcom I rejected last time is back (with a surprisingly high ToC)…and with the sauna episode. Due to magical shenanigans, our protagonist has to navigate his way out of a room full of naked girls. You can imagine my enthusiasm as a lover of the genre (sarcasm intended).

And with this, justice is finally served. Now I have to think of what issue will I cover in two weeks, for the next installment of Jump Retro Review!!
 

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Considering Mob is over and Bungo won't have enough material for a while, Bones is probably the most sure pick for Sakamoto Days. Coming up they have an original mecha series as well as MHA S7+Movie. Aside from that, they don't have too much going on (for the standards of an animation studio anyway).

It's crazy that by the time the SD anime releases it will already be to at least to the 200 chapter mark. Insane for how big of a series it is. If the anime ends up being great then I guess it's not too bad.
Well if we look at it more rationally, the series is largely made up of action scenes and it can be burned through pretty quickly. If properly planned and paced it could go through maybe 50 chapters for one season. I am just making that comparison due to what I have seen other series adaptations have done. Take for example cour 2 of Bleach TYBW, now that was alot of action heavy stuff. And I think it was paced very well and got rid of the unnecessary stuff that was redundant, but it did left out maybe a few things that could have stayed like some of Iwase going over the technicalities of Zanpakto's after Yachiru's Shikai release. But one scene that really did bug me (okay 2) was everyone's reactions when Gremmy conjured the meteor. I wanted to see Bazz-B go "WHAT THE HELL DID GREMMY DO!", and I felt that the scene where Gremmy's body tore itself apart could have gone further except for the tear in his hand, but if it was a challenge to animate or it couldn't be shown for television standards, then I understand. But the fact that it had adapted between 65-70 chapters shows just how much material they went through while also adding new scenes for context.

In the case of which studio I want to see get Sakamoto Days, I am also a Bones supporter. When I see the studio, I feel like they are always on the cutting edge of cool, while also doing high end fantasy/sci-fi stories while also adding the element of their mech background. So aside from Metalic Rouge and Season 7+movie of My Hero Academia, they also have SK8 the Infinity season 2 along with a OVA, a new project called Katsute Mahō Shōjo to Aku wa Tekitai Shiteita, and an ONA project called Time Patrol Ban. So they will be busy in getting 7 projects, each with their own varying difficulties and time for completion. And if it does get to Bones which studio section will take on that task (note just like Sunrise before them their animation studio is comprised of multiple studios that are labled alphabetically. Currently there are 91 active employees and 5 studios going from A to E. In the case of My Hero Academia it is currently under the work of Studio C).
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And with this, justice is finally served. Now I have to think of what issue will I cover in two weeks, for the next installment of Jump Retro Review!!
I am sure you will. It is fun to look back into the past and look at pivotal moments that defined series in a weekly magazine. Anyways Happy New Year to everyone who is about to celebrate, and for those that are a day ahead, enjoy your day off on the first day.
 

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Yeah I'm taking back what I said of Sakamoto exploding like JJK lmao, the more I think about it the fact that it already peaked in sales with "pre-anime" which is 100k a volume and won't grow more til it gets the anime.

Cause the super big hits already had big numbers with the pre-anime phase, like TPN, MHA, JJK etc where already 250k+ mark without an anime which it's a great indication of it becoming something big.

Sakamoto still can become bigger than Mashle, I think it will but for it to jump from 100k to 600k like MHA with the anime it's a HUGE boost which doesn't happen very often and for it to even jump to the millions like JJK would be more insane, so yeah I'll stay with a good solid boost around 100k-200k so imo it will be around 300k mark when the anime airs :super
 

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Yeah I think the safe bets so far are:
- JJK
- MHA
- BC
Honestly, I'd love a full adaptation for it but I don't think BC is really in the clear at the moment. I think Spade Arc will likely get an anime at some point and I believe leakers have already stated that but past that, I'm not really sure. Depends on how long the final arc is and it's possible the manga will be over when they choose to animate it or not and I'm not sure BC is like Bleach or KNY that it'll continue to get anime years after its finished
 

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Honestly, I'd love a full adaptation for it but I don't think BC is really in the clear at the moment. I think Spade Arc will likely get an anime at some point and I believe leakers have already stated that but past that, I'm not really sure. Depends on how long the final arc is and it's possible the manga will be over when they choose to animate it or not and I'm not sure BC is like Bleach or KNY that it'll continue to get anime years after its finished
We'll see because they always can adapt a lot of chapters in an episode like with Bleach anime that it had sometimes 6 chapters adapated in 1 episode and more so since BC chapters are short since Tabata before transfering to GIGA was making 15 page chapters and even less sometimes.

Unless Pierrot takes another WSJ title after Bleach ends, they probably will focus on Boruto and Black Clover for a while so I can see it happening.
 

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We'll see because they always can adapt a lot of chapters in an episode like with Bleach anime that it had sometimes 6 chapters adapated in 1 episode and more so since BC chapters are short since Tabata before transfering to GIGA was making 15 page chapters and even less sometimes.

Unless Pierrot takes another WSJ title after Bleach ends, they probably will focus on Boruto and Black Clover for a while so I can see it happening.
Not to mention that a lot of it is action based so it could go by much more quickly.
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You guys wanna talk about what had the potential to be the next MHA/JJK

It was Ruri Dragon
Are you referring like series similar to what Naruto and Bleach did and how MHA and JJK are their successors?
 

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Tbh I could see Sakamoto getting to 500k+ sales but I do think 300k+ is more likely. Generally, I feel like it has a formula that is pretty appealing to a mass audience so a good adaptation could put it in the right place to explode.
 

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What do you guys think is the biggest factor for the size of an anime boost? I personally think the biggest factor is how well a series appeals to women. Which kinda seems obvious just from a numbers perspective. I saw a study that showed that women are more likely to get heavily invested in things and pay money for merchandise.
I think it's random basically. Good animation will always help, but won't carry, so even shows with "bad" adaptations can do better than good ones if they connect with the audience.

A single scene, a single character, a single song. These things can sometimes be the point that make something explode in popularity.

While others here said hit series have general appeal, I'll say that being popular with women DOES help a lot. I went recently to a Oshi no Ko café and it had a crazy rate of like 9:1 women/men ratio, lol. There are opposite cases as well, but I guess my point is that having a hardcore fanbase is as important as having "general" appeal.
 

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I think it's random basically. Good animation will always help, but won't carry, so even shows with "bad" adaptations can do better than good ones if they connect with the audience.


A single scene, a single character, a single song. These things can sometimes be the point that make something explode in popularity.
Tokyo Revengers anime despite having a very mediocre animation is just soooo entertaining to watch, the characters, the sometimes cheesy drama, plot twists and etc, i'm not gonna lie, many moment in Season 3 had me more invested than the Shibuya arc in JJK despite all the eye candy sakuga.
 

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I think it's random basically. Good animation will always help, but won't carry, so even shows with "bad" adaptations can do better than good ones if they connect with the audience.

A single scene, a single character, a single song. These things can sometimes be the point that make something explode in popularity.

While others here said hit series have general appeal, I'll say that being popular with women DOES help a lot. I went recently to a Oshi no Ko café and it had a crazy rate of like 9:1 women/men ratio, lol. There are opposite cases as well, but I guess my point is that having a hardcore fanbase is as important as having "general" appeal.
Yeah, like I said previously, it's just random, unpredictable. People though Undead Unluck would be the next big thing...apart from some nods for being a really good anime...it's failed to get volumes of manga to sell in JPN, and it doesn't appear to have gotten people to order the manga from American publisher to make multiple volumes appear on American sales charts, perhaps European publishers have found success.
 

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Where can I find the American sales chart for manga? Also the French sales too.
 

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So how many series does everyone think Jump will green light in 2024?
 

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Mission: Yozakura Family illustration for New Year

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I remember someone posted a guide about how to subscribe to WSJ japan before. Can someone post/link it here again? Please.
From what i know Kagura fans have bought the digital Shonen Jump through Zebrack, is the main store for Shueisha now.
 
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