I don't remember anything about Bloodman, but if DiMaria's only advantage/power is age seal, then partial END (or pissed off partial END) should be able to beat her, again. If Gray can deal with it as well, then I could see him beating her, but it depends as partial END was full of bloodlust.
1. Yes, can. But for using such power as Etherion you must have ability to consuming this power and spill out. DF is not powerup, is just state which consuming more power than base. Like Mira's souls. Stronger soul consuming more power. Natsu did not have enough power to use DF himself and Etherion (and Jellal's flame) get him this ability. He didn't fight with his power, he fought with Etherion power.
3. And before this moment Natsu did losing to him.
4. Yes, I call this a perfect condition compared with Natsu.
5. Lucy doesn't must pucnh Franmalt and still with that Natsu didn't make anything to Franmalt without Lucy's help. Natsu didn't kill him, he was still alive after all. It was one rocked punch. You realy think nobody can strike a rock into Franmalt face? And so Natsu didn't do that himself.
6. No jokes.Any new scratch on him after Natsu's strongest move??
And how he looks after Gray's devil slaying magic
Bloodman was defeated by regular punches from DF Gajeel. Whether you think E.N.D can match that is up to you.
A shell? What are you on about dude? EIleen's human form is her human form, and has lower defense.
1.its debatable that df natsu would have tanked aybss break. remember jellal only lost because the earlier injury he got from erza kicked in during the fight.
- DF is the strongest stage a dragon slayer can achieve (other than becoming a dragon). Right now Natsu could activate DF at will but when he was fighting jellal he couldn't do that and therefore he used an external trigger to activate DF. If it's like what you said then why didn't jellal do the same thing and eat etherion. Of course I'm not saying etherion didn't help at all, I'm saying etherion helped Natsu activate DF and Natsu was able to beat Jellal because of DF not because of etherion.
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- They were fighting equally until Gajeel ate the metal and powered up. Then Gajeel started to gain the upper hand, but after Natsu ate fire he managed to beat Gajeel.
- Yeah Natsu looks tired, lying down doesn't mean he's done yet.
- Dude, helping means fighting alongside Natsu, what else does it mean? emotional support?. And Franmalth dies, read chapter 380.
- Dude! the dragons destroyed all 3000 Faces across the continent in seconds. Half dead Igneel managed to rip off Acno's arm. Pretty much all the guilds in Ishgar fighting together couldn't scratch a single dragon. Natsu burned Zeref's magic using a fraction of Igneel's power that Igneel left behind. and you're saying Deliora is at the same level as dragons?
Irene stabbed herself with DS sword. Erza hit her in an open wound. The same slash on her neck went from her face to body. Irene not moving an inch already showed Erza could not pierce her body.A shell? What are you on about dude? EIleen's human form is her human form, and has lower defense.There is no shell, Eileen's human form has squishy human insides like everyone else. There is a clear difference in defense between human and dragon form, you think Erza couldve headbutted dragon Eileen lol? So yeah, if "power" isnt a factor in Age Seal's negation, Dimaria no diff's Eileen without a doubt.
Oh and Age Seal isnt world wide, also confirmed by the manga.So either both Wahl and Laxus are immune to Age Seal, or Age Seal has a limited range.
Agreed with everything, but Natsu actually was not at full power when he fought Gajeel. When they both got their power back by eating they were on equal terms and that's why Natsu wrecked Gajeel.
- DF is the strongest stage a dragon slayer can achieve (other than becoming a dragon). Right now Natsu could activate DF at will but when he was fighting jellal he couldn't do that and therefore he used an external trigger to activate DF. If it's like what you said then why didn't jellal do the same thing and eat etherion. Of course I'm not saying etherion didn't help at all, I'm saying etherion helped Natsu activate DF and Natsu was able to beat Jellal because of DF not because of etherion.
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- They were fighting equally until Gajeel ate the metal and powered up. Then Gajeel started to gain the upper hand, but after Natsu ate fire he managed to beat Gajeel.
- Yeah Natsu looks tired, lying down doesn't mean he's done yet.
- Dude, helping means fighting alongside Natsu, what else does it mean? emotional support?. And Franmalth dies, read chapter 380.
- Dude! the dragons destroyed all 3000 Faces across the continent in seconds. Half dead Igneel managed to rip off Acno's arm. Pretty much all the guilds in Ishgar fighting together couldn't scratch a single dragon. Natsu burned Zeref's magic using a fraction of Igneel's power that Igneel left behind. and you're saying Deliora is at the same level as dragons?
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Eileen stabbed herself with Benisakura, it had lost all DS magic as shown by the lack of feathers and Sky Dragon Slayer magic surrounding it. Yeah, Erza couldnt pierce her body, however Eileen herself could do it easily.
Laxus has always been top Dog and stronger than (Natsu.Erza.Mirajane) this is the truth... and all the spriggans is not egual even (Wahl.Serena.and Invel can walk through Age Seal and beat Dimaria...Eileen stabbed herself with Benisakura, it had lost all DS magic as shown by the lack of feathers and Sky Dragon Slayer magic surrounding it. Yeah, Erza couldnt pierce her body, however Eileen herself could do it easily.
No, it doesnt. Why would we see Wahl's nuke again? He was literally miles apart from Wendy..Erza and Kagura commented on Wahl's nuke because the docks are right next to the city. Dimaria/Wendy were in a completely different area, there is no reason for them to notice the nuke.
Dimaria stopped time in the middle of Laxus' fight with Wahl, which means she should have been defeated before him. The fact that she wasnt means either Wahl is immune to Age Seal or that Age Seal only affected a limited area.
No, the fact that Ultear's young self appeared on the battlefield instead of in her house miles away confirms that Age Seal only affects that particular area.
Let's not say Wahl is above Dimaria when most probably she was the leader of the southern Spriggans
The sword was still enchanted. It was already stated it wouldn't work without it, and we've already seen Erza trying to go through her head before and it didn't work in the slightest.Eileen stabbed herself with Benisakura, it had lost all DS magic as shown by the lack of feathers and Sky Dragon Slayer magic surrounding it. Yeah, Erza couldnt pierce her body, however Eileen herself could do it easily.
No, it doesnt. Why would we see Wahl's nuke again? He was literally miles apart from Wendy..Erza and Kagura commented on Wahl's nuke because the docks are right next to the city. Dimaria/Wendy were in a completely different area, there is no reason for them to notice the nuke.
Dimaria stopped time in the middle of Laxus' fight with Wahl, which means she should have been defeated before him. The fact that she wasnt means either Wahl is immune to Age Seal or that Age Seal only affected a limited area.
No, the fact that Ultear's young self appeared on the battlefield instead of in her house miles away confirms that Age Seal only affects that particular area.
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She was. She literally beat a S12 in a second flat that is greater than any feat Wall or Laxus has produced. Only person here above DiMaria in MP is August. Laxus, Gild, and Gray have never been noted on their MP. END has a special ability so I don't know why people are trying to scale off of his feat.Let's not say Wahl is above Dimaria when most probably she was the leader of the southern Spriggans
1. Maybe, but that wasn't what i was trying to prove though. I was saying that Natsu won both battles due to DF, etherion and the flame of rebuke were used to activate DF. Of course he would've lost both battles if he didn't get any external support.
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Natsu is the strongest so why he is not the Leader??? simple answer because Natsu is stupid... this was exampleLet's not say Wahl is above Dimaria when most probably she was the leader of the southern Spriggans
You're wrong. Wahl was canonically beaten before Dimaria, it is fact.The sword was still enchanted. It was already stated it wouldn't work without it, and we've already seen Erza trying to go through her head before and it didn't work in the slightest.
They're on the outskirt just like Gray and Lyon so they'd see a city size nuke in the back. Neither are the case as they both were affected. We see Wall beat then it goes back to the moment where DiMaria is clicking her teeth. The first one down was DiMaria not Wall. Like I said if it was a radius we would've saw the Laxus v Wall going on in Hargeon. We already seen the clock tower in the city suspended in time. DiMaria stops the flow of time itself not a pocket dimension.
Ultear literally said "since time was stopped she appeared there" therefore her real body needed to be suspended in time in order for her to be there. How is she sensing a battle 1000 km away if she went their herself? It was caused from the paradox bcs Ultear has time related abilities as well. She went back to her body as soon as time resumed.
Only person here who can counter it is August. No one else can or they'd been shown too. END didn't overpower it he walked through it bcs it's his ability to negate hax like that. Even Porlyusica states this.She was. She literally beat a S12 in a second flat that is greater than any feat Wall or Laxus has produced. Only person here above DiMaria in MP is August. Laxus, Gild, and Gray have never been noted on their MP. END has a special ability so I don't know why people are trying to scale off of his feat.--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
well he ain't above her but it doesn't mean he can be affected by her Age Seal. Dimaria is still pretty OP and she is more sane than Wall which could be the reason why she was his superior.Let's not say Wahl is above Dimaria when most probably she was the leader of the southern Spriggans
I wouldnt take that at face value. Spriggans are just a bunch of cocky chumps who think they're better than everyone else, including their own comradesLet's not say Wahl is above Dimaria when most probably she was the leader of the southern Spriggans
That is possible i am not denying it.But there is another possibility that Dimaria is above Wahl and that's why she was given in charge of the entire southern front.And don't say Dimaria doesn't have insanity
I wouldnt take that at face value. Spriggans are just a bunch of cocky chumps who think they're better than everyone else, including their own comradesAnyway, you get my point. Dimaria "babysitting" Neinhart and Wahl is probably just her thinking she's the smartest of the 3.
still more sane than Wall.That is possible i am not denying it.But there is another possibility that Dimaria is above Wahl and that's why she was given in charge of the entire southern front.And don't say Dimaria doesn't have insanity
