No, your the one claiming that the dragon slayers and dragons transformations work the same. Thus you must provide proof, not me who's opposing it.
I merely said they follow similar logic. In that, dragons are inherently far superior to humans. Nowhere did I say the scaling is identical. I just said it should be somewhat comparable.
Also, you made the claim that dragon to human transformation is a smaller nerf, compared to buff from human to dragon transformation. Where is the proof of that? I see you giving arguments for your position, but it's all just theories based on what's shown in the series, Both yours and mine, No point asking for proof, cause Mashima gave us none.
Her full potential? Merc was talking about her power atm, not her potential (makes no sense). Merc can't see them, he's just feeling their power.
The only power level he can sense is MP. In fact, MP is everything someone else can sense from another entity in the series.
By potential I mean what she's capable of. If she had used that MP in dragon form, it's an entirely different story. There is no way Merc could know if she's dragon or human at the moment, all he sense is her MP
Higher MP having lesser stats is a rare case
Used to be, until Alverez arc
which again you would have to prove is the case for the DGs too.
Easily.
Stats in dragon form >> stats in human form, because dragons are an inherently superior species
As for the bolded....were talking about Selene in her human form at FP compared to two vastly nerfed DGs. Not all three at FP with Selene being in human form, so that's pointless.
Yes, and I'm saying the stats is Merc is probably higher.
Merc was < 50%. Lets say 45% for the sake of argument.
I consider dragon to human transformation a nerf to less than 45%. Just basing on the logic that Selene's dragon form is a tier or more above her human form.
I think Aldoron was nerfed to like 15% towards the end, so I consider human Selene to be above him, since I consider the nerf from transforming to human to be not below 15%
Or maybe Suzaku is that strong
I would've considered that possibility if Suzaku was the strongest member of Diabolos. But there is George, who is a tier or more above Suzaku. If Suzaku is at that level, that makes George significantly superior to DGs in dragon form, which doesn't make sense from the narrative POV.
I predict George to be full power DG level (maybe he's Viernes), and black knights a tier or more below him,
Seriously though, look what I told Ronin. I'm not arguing that their human forms = dragon forms, I'm arguing that the difference between them isn't as vast as your making out to be like Dragon Slayers using Dragon Force. The only thing, I see a dragon gaining from reverting back to their original form is a physical boost in strength and defense due to scales. ,Their magic isn't gonna somehow change, even then I'd argue Human Selene at FP is still physically stronger than two nerfed DGs.
Sure, ok. If you're saying human to dragon is a superior transformation, because it includes change in MP as well. I see where you're coming from.
Even then, the boost to MP for humans in dragon force, pales in comparison to change in stats. The dramatic change in stats is what makes DF so dangerous.
All I'm saying is difference in stats is still vast though, even keeping MP constant.
Dragon form's physical strength, speed, durability etc are far superior to human form's. Meaning, dragon Selene >> human Selene.
If you think the gap isn't as big as a human in dragon form, that's fine too. But the gap is still large enough to make dragon form of DG a different tier from human form of DG,