Game New Prince of Tennis Fan League II Season 4

[Kaoz]

I think my downfall was that I wanted to have a fighting chance against Ryoma in S3 and Sanada was literally the only one who could play that position and wouldn't auto-lose. If I'm not mistaken, Amadeus and Becker would've won S2 and S1 despite Mizuki predicting them, so switching Sanada into doubles could've made all the difference. For some reason it never occurred to me though that Frankensteiner would be able to negate Kintarou's moves, so clear miscalculation on my part.

Your MVP was still Mizuki though I think since he prevented Dorgias and Hakamada from getting ACE'd by Akutsu, another thing that I hadn't realized when creating my line-up.

 

[Seakay]

It looks like Coach Hawk was on the right track by not using the Mutsu pair. If Negotiation didn’t activate, then I probably lose D1 4-0, so I was lucky there. Byodoin and Ryoga had my back in Singles though if I could get it to S2 at least.

The story is going nicely, gotta beat final boss Sea now.

Why do I have the feeling that I’m the villain here? Just because Ryoma is on your team, my captain and first-mate have KOed several people, and Coach Think had some unfortunate penal teas penalties - those are totally unrelated.

@Kaoz - Could Sanada have won by using Black Dragon four times? That leaves him vulnerable to Spirit Samurai though, so using Immovable like a Mountain to counter it is a good plan too. Not sure what I would have done in that situation.

 

[Kaoz]

@Kaoz - Could Sanada have won by using Black Dragon four times? That leaves him vulnerable to Spirit Samurai though, so using Immovable like a Mountain to counter it is a good plan too. Not sure what I would have done in that situation.

Yeah, if I'd known Hardy would go all COOL Drive, four Black Dragons would've done the trick I think. The issue was that Sanada gets KO'd by two Samurai Spirits before Emperor kicks in on the fourth point, so it seemed necessary to guard against that. Although now that I think about, I guess a sequence of Black Dragon on 1, 3, 4, 5 would've covered both options? Obviously I didn't think of that either though.

--- Double Post Merged, May 28, 2017, Original Post Date: May 28, 2017 ---

Finals (May 28 - June 3)
Hardy vs Seakay (Seakay serves first.)

Unless @LetalHawk really wants to, there won't be a third place match.

New Supports:
Akutsu/Sengoku: Lv 2 -> Lv 3
Meredith/Toyama: Lv 0 -> Lv 1
Detlef/Yuho: Lv 0 -> Lv 1
Ochi/Oni: Lv 0 -> Lv 1
Kadowaki/Kimijima: Lv 0 -> Lv 1
Kiritani/Mitsuya: Lv 0 -> Lv 1

 

[Seakay]

To borrow from our Twitter correspondent: "The finals are about to start! I sent my line-up already, I have nothing only Mizuki to fear! Come at me Hardy! I'll use my super tennis to send you back to third place!"

 

[Hardy]

Sending my line-up soon-ish.

Spoiler: Inoue Spam

I think my downfall was that I wanted to have a fighting chance against Ryoma in S3 and Sanada was literally the only one who could play that position and wouldn't auto-lose. If I'm not mistaken, Amadeus and Becker would've won S2 and S1 despite Mizuki predicting them, so switching Sanada into doubles could've made all the difference. For some reason it never occurred to me though that Frankensteiner would be able to negate Kintarou's moves, so clear miscalculation on my part.

Your MVP was still Mizuki though I think since he prevented Dorgias and Hakamada from getting ACE'd by Akutsu, another thing that I hadn't realized when creating my line-up.

I'm pretty sure !Predicted Becker would had lost S1, according to very poor and quick math tho '-' Amadeus would had only lost if he spammed, which he didn't.

Sanada is kind of troublesome for Ryoma, as he has abilities that allow him to avoid getting ACE'd.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 1, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 1, 2017 ---

Also, when I was making my line-up against Kaoz, I had 2 "problems".

1- I wanted to play Dorgias/QP, so that they'd have a support level of 2 in the next match. But then I saw that in most scenarios my chances were higher if I had QP in Singles, so I thought "you'd rather play the finals or have your perfect team in the 3rd place match?"

2- For a good while I thought Kaoz would play Amadeus in S1, but then I convinced myself that he doesn't meme enough to do it. I wasn't wrong '-'

 

[Kaoz]

I'm pretty sure !Predicted Becker would had lost S1, according to very poor and quick math tho '-'

Spoiler: Becker vs Volk

Becker vs Volk

1st Point
Becker to serve.
31 - 32
31 - 33 (Perfect Scenario)
30 - 33 (Second Face)
30 - 35 (Blitzkrieg)
34 - 35 (SB)
43 - 35 (Skill Adaptation: Glowing Destruction)
43 - 43 (Wirbeltaufe)
43 - 43
Point won by Becker, 1-0.
Stamina (Becker) -0.5.
Stamina (Volk) -0.5

2nd Point
Volk to serve.
30.5 - 31.5
30.5 - 32.5 (Perfect Scenario)
29.5 - 32.5 (Second Face)
29.5 - 35.5 (SB, The Philosopher of Victory)
29.5 - 43.5 (Wirbeltaufe)
29.5 - 43.5
Point won by Volk, 1-1.
Stamina (Volk) -0.5.

3rd Point
Becker to serve.
30.5 - 31
30.5 - 32 (Perfect Scenario)
29.5 - 32 (Second Face)
34.5 - 32 (SB, Perfect Black Jack Knife)
43.5 - 32 (Skill Adaptation: Perfect Black Jack Knife)
43.5 - 40 (Wirbeltaufe)
43.5 - 40
Point won by Becker, 2-1.
Stamina (Becker) -0.5.
Stamina (Volk) -0.5.

4th Point
Volk to serve.
30 - 30.5
30 - 31.5 (Perfect Scenario)
30 - 34.5 (SB, The Philosopher of Victory)
30 - 42.5 (Wirbeltaufe)
30 - 42.5
Point won by Volk, 2-2.
Stamina (Volk) -0.5.

5th Point
Becker to serve.
30 - 30
30 - 31 (Perfect Scenario)
35 - 31 (SB, Super Ultra Perfect Delicious Mountain Storm)
44 - 31 (Skill Adaptation: Super Ultra Perfect Delicious Mountain Storm)
44 - 39 (Wirbeltaufe)
44 - 39
Point won by Becker, 3-2.
Stamina (Becker) -0.5.
Stamina (Volk) -0.5.

6th Point
Volk to serve.
29.5 - 29.5
29.5 - 30.5 (Perfect Scenario)
29.5 - 33.5 (SB, The Philosopher of Victory)
29.5 - 41.5 (Wirbeltaufe)
29.5 - 41.5
Point won by Volk, 3-3.
Stamina (Volk) -0.5.

7th Point
Becker to serve. Volk to serve.
29.5 - 29
29.5 - 30 (Perfect Scenario)
34.5 - 33 (SB, Perfect COOL Drive, The Philosopher of Victory)
42.5 - 33 (Skill Adaptation: Perfect COOL Drive)
42.5 - 41 (Wirbeltaufe)
42.5 - 41
Point won by Becker, 4-3.

Match won by Becker, 4-3.

Not unless I forgot some ability somewhere. Skill Adaptation cannot be negated and when copying a Lv 6 Special, it becomes Lv 7, meaning that even after Perfect Scenario it will be Lv 5 and thus not negated by The Philosopher of Victory the first time I use it (hence why I switched between 4 different Specials). Furthermore, since you activated Wirbeltaufe on every point, you were down because of the Stamina cost in the tiebreak. Although, if you had only used Wirbeltaufe on your service points for instance, you would've won after 42 - 42 Total, 11 - 11 [SB + Mental] and 3 < 4 Stamina.

2- For a good while I thought Kaoz would play Amadeus in S1, but then I convinced myself that he doesn't meme enough to do it. I wasn't wrong '-'

Well, Amadeus has no realistic way of beating Volk and I didn't think you'd play Volk in doubles again, so Amadeus in S1 was never really an option.

 

[Hardy]

I didn't notice Becker's adaptation couldn't be negated, lol... glad S1 didn't have to be played, then.

Spoiler: Inoue spam 2, the revenge of the twits

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 1, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 1, 2017 ---

Won't lie, I'm hitting my head against a wall trying to decide what I'm doing against Sea. These stupid pirates man, making my life hell...

 

[Seakay]

So now that the season is winding down, something I’ve been considering is going into details on the individual characters. When I was tallying up the match results for the teams, I also kept track of who played each match.

I guess my main question is what format would fit best for this information if people wanted to see it? I was thinking a simple table with a match record would do but how detailed would others want it to be?

Let’s just take Toyama for example:

Spoiler

Win vs Nio in S3
Unplayed vs Kamio in S2
Win w/ Sanada vs Yukimura & Marui in D1
Win vs Tezuka in S2
Win w/ Zaizen vs Akiba & Ban in D2
Loss w/ Meredith vs Frankensteiner & Shiraishi in D1

Obviously tallying up wins, losses and draws is important. If a player was scheduled to play S2 or S1 but a team won before they could, I still wanted to make note of it though. (For example, Obando would only be 1W-1L even though he was in S1 five times.)

Kintaro Toyama

4-1-0-1

Doubles (2-1) Singles (2-0)

I was thinking a simple breakdown like this would work, formatted Wins-Losses-Draws-Unplayed, with a breakdown for Doubles and Singles also. It’s the simplest approach with just the record.

Another concern doing this might be placing emphasis on some matches over another. Playing in D1 should be “worth” more than D2, same for S1 over S2 and S3 - mainly because they should be playing against a tougher opponent(s). If records could be weighed to granting importance to higher matches, then we could get a better account of a character's respective strength. What the values for each match should be is the main issue though.

 

[Kaoz]

Another concern doing this might be placing emphasis on some matches over another. Playing in D1 should be “worth” more than D2, same for S1 over S2 and S3 - mainly because they should be playing against a tougher opponent(s). If records could be weighed to granting importance to higher matches, then we could get a better account of a character's respective strength. What the values for each match should be is the main issue though.

I think it'd be the most informative if you just posted the match breakdown. That would give us information on which opponents the character faced which, when you get down to it, is the most important part. I don't think weighing the positions is really necessary.

 

[Hardy]

Line-up was sent, now I pray ;-;

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 3, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 3, 2017 ---

Gathering energy

Spoiler

 

[Kaoz]

Championship Match
-
Hardy vs Seakay​

Spoiler: Hardy vs Seakay

Mizuki's Prediction
Doubles 2 Kimijima / Ryoga
Doubles 1 Kimijima / Ryoga
Singles 3 Kiritani
Singles 2 Kiritani
Singles 1 Byoudouin

Doubles 2
Shiraishi & Ryoma vs Tachibana & Kiritani

1st Point
Tachibana to serve.
22.5+25+10.5 - 20+26+9
22.5+25+10.5 - 22+26+9 (Bestial State)
20.5+25+10.5 - 22+26+9 (Illusory Smoke)
20.5+25+13.5 - 22+26+9 (Praising)
20.5+25+13.5 - 24+26+9 (SB)
20.5+25+13.5 - 24+26+9 (Lessen Destruction)
59 - 59
Point won by Tachibana/Kiritani, 1-0.
Stamina (Kiritani) -1.
Lv (Lessen Destruction) -1. (Bible of Naniwa)

2nd Point
Shiraishi to serve.
22.5+25+10.5 - 20+25+9
22.5+26+14.5 - 20+25+9 (Praising)
23.5+26+14.5 - 20+25+9 (Golden Gauntlet)
23.5+26+14.5 - 22+25+9 (Bestial State)
21.5+26+14.5 - 22+25+9 (Illusory Smoke)
23.5+26+14.5 - 22+25+9 (SB)
23.5+36+14.5 - 22+25+9 (Spirit Samurai)
ACE (Spirit Samurai)
HP (Tachibana) = [9 - 6] = 3. HP (Kiritani) = [12 - 6] = 6. (Spirit Samurai)
Point won by Shiraishi/Ryoma, 1-1.
Stamina (Ryoma) -1.

3rd Point
Kiritani to serve.
22.5+25+11.5 - 20+25+9
20.5+25+11.5 - 20+25+9 (Illusory Smoke)
20.5+25+11.5 - 22+25+9 (Bestial State)
20.5+25+14.5 - 22+25+9 (Praising)
20.5+25+14.5 - 22+28+9 (SB)
[Lessen Destruction activates. Negated by Bible of Naniwa.]
60 - 59
Point won by Shiraishi/Ryoma, 2-1.
Stamina (Kiritani) -1.

4th Point
Ryoma to serve.
22.5+25+11.5 - 20+24+9
22.5+26+15.5 - 20+24+9 (Praising)
22.5+26+15.5 - 22+24+9 (Bestial State)
20.5+26+15.5 - 22+24+9 (Illusory Smoke)
20.5+28+15.5 - 22+24+9 (SB, Ace Server)
20.5+38+15.5 - 22+24+9 (Spirit Samurai)
ACE (Spirit Samurai)
HP (Tachibana) = [3 - 6] = 0. HP (Kiritani) = [6 - 6] = 0. (Spirit Samurai)
Tachibana cannot continue the match. Kiritani cannot continue the match.

Activation Queue:
Lessen Destruction (5)
Spirit Samurai (6)
Spirit Samurai (7)
Lessen Destruction (7)

Match won by Shiraishi/Ryoma.

Doubles 1

Dorgias & Q.P. vs Mitsuya & Kimijima

1st Point
Mitsuya to serve.
25+29+13 - 21+25+16
26+30+15 - 21+25+16 (Perfect Scenario)
24+30+15 - 21+25+16 (Data Tennis)
[Data Doubles - Negotiations Concluded activates.]
24+30+15 - 22+25+16 (SB)
ACE (Quality of Perfection)
Point won by Dorgias/Q.P., 1-0.

2nd Point
Dorgias to serve.
25+29+13 - 21+25+16
26+30+15 - 21+25+16 (Perfect Scenario)
24+30+15 - 21+25+16 (Data Tennis)
27+30+15 - 21+25+16 (SB)
32+30+15 - 21+25+16 (Dragon Punch)
ACE (Dragon Punch)
HP (Mitsuya) = [6 - 6] = 0. (Dragon Punch)
Mitsuya cannot continue the match.

Activation Queue:
Dragon Punch (4)
Dragon Punch (6)
Dragon Punch (7)

Match won by Dorgias/Q.P.

Singles 3

Hakamada vs Chitose

1st Point
Chitose to serve.
22 - 19
22 - 21 (SB)
22 - 21
Point won by Hakamada, 1-0.

2nd Point
Hakamada to serve.
22 - 19
25 - 19 (SB)
25 - 19
Point won by Hakamada, 2-0.

3rd Point
Chitose to serve.
22 - 19
22 - 21 (SB)
22 - 21
Point won by Hakamada, 3-0.

4th Point
Hakamada to serve.
22 - 19
25 - 19 (SB)
25 - 19
Point won by Hakamada, 4-0.

Activation Queue:
Pinnacle of Brilliance (6)
Vanish (7)
Pinnacle of Brilliance (7)

Match won by Hakamada, 4-0.

Singles 2

Frankensteiner vs Byodoin

Activation Queue:
Spirit Pirate (1)
Spirit Pirate (3)
Spirit Pirate (5)
Scope Shot (7)
Spirit Pirate (7)

Singles 1

Volk vs Ryoga

Activation Queue:
Perfect Spirit Shogun (1)
Wirbeltaufe (1)
Glowing Destruction (3)
Wirbeltaufe (3)
Glowing Destruction (5)
Wirbeltaufe (5)
Wirbeltaufe (7)
Perfect Spirit Shogun (7)

Spoiler: Results

\​	D2​	D1​	S3​	S2​	S1​
Hardy​	2​	1​	4​	-​	-​
Seakay​	Def​	Def​	0​	-​	-​

Winner: Hardy

 

[Kaoz]

This concludes the season.

Spoiler

Congratulations to Hardy for winning New Prince of Tennis Fan League II Season 4.

It's taken a few attempts, but you made it in the end, and with a double 3-0 in the KO stage to boot. I hope you're ready to defend your title next season because now you're the one with the target on your back.

As always, thanks to everyone for participating, this whole thing would be literally impossible without you guys. And also, special thanks to everyone who filled in for The Thinker over the course of the season. I hope to see a lot of you again next time around. If you guys have any feedback, feel free to use this thread, the separate discussion thread, or send me a PM.

To give a small preview for next season, the plan is to build on the current foundation. Mechanically a lot of things will stay the same, however, one significant aspect I'm hoping to add is an experience system. I think it would be great to have characters level up and become stronger as the season progresses and would add a whole new dynamic to the game overall, as well as making each season truly unique. Of course I am also aiming to refine existing characters and add new ones again - so far 17 additions are planned. As usual I'll keep you all updated on the progress in the discussion thread.

That's just about it from my side for the time being. Once again, thanks to all who played and followed along and I'm looking forward to your thoughts.

 

[Anera]

I'm still waiting for your "third place", @Hardy

Anyway, congratulations !

 

[Hardy]

Yay, so proud of my boys \o/ I will have them in my heart forever- and in my signature, for the moment.

Expected a less conventional line-up from Sea tbh. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE KOed?

Kaoz, I cannot be beaten if I don't play

Jk of course I'm joining next season.

Anera, I think Coach Hard is confident this was the third place match, not the finals

 

[Kaoz]

Anera, I think Coach Hard is confident this was the third place match, not the finals

Is that the story we're going with here? Coach Hard is awaiting the Kaz - Hawk "finals" and is gonna send his gold medal to the winner because he figures him getting it was a mistake?

 

[Seakay]

I got KOed so hard that I fell off my ship. Oh well, maybe I'll have better luck next season - might need to wrangle up a new crew though.

Congrats Hardy on overcoming your third place curse and winning a fan league.

I'm not really sure what I could to have a better chance, to be honest. I expected Mizuki to predict Byodoin and Ryoga in Doubles, so I assumed that I couldn''t them there. If it came to S2 and S1, then I would've won unless you predicted my S1 correctly - I think Ryoga does beat Volk here if my math was right. As for Kiritani, I'm not surprised you named him for S3 but for S2 I am. Chitose could've defeated Hakamada if you used Vanish on your service points, so that was a good call not to do it. Even if I played Byodoin in Doubles, then I'll lose S2 and I don't think I can win both doubles anyway to force S1. My Doubles have always been a weakpoint alas- so I'm not surprised that your edge in them proved my downfall.