Discussion Supreme Goddess and Demon King Power Speculation

[Demonspeed]

What's a king to a god?

God> King indeed. Before we got her official title we were all calling her Goddess Queen. Supreme Deity should mean that she is above the other gods, if we take this litterally.

 

[Gallon]

God> King indeed. Before we got her official title we were all calling her Goddess Queen. Supreme Deity should mean that she is above the other gods, if we take this litterally.

She should be easily above the Demon King, the latter being a fake god. I'm pretty sure the Graces are actually 5% of her power - she wants to make this a challenge, or else the goddesses would easily win.

 

[kkck]

What's a king to a god?

What's a god to an unbeliever?

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God> King indeed. Before we got her official title we were all calling her Goddess Queen. Supreme Deity should mean that she is above the other gods, if we take this litterally.

The context here is clearly in regards to her brethren though. We are talking about a clan that refers to itself as goddesses. It clearly isn't meant in reference to the demon king.

 

[danh]

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since the power of the demon king is "the ruler", what can be the power of the supreme diety? let's start with this topic

 

[kkck]

So far it doesn't seem like goddesses ordinarily have abilities beyond ark so. At the very least no goddess evidences so. And graces don't count of course. I'd say its plausible the supreme deity does not have any special magic of her own, just lots and lots of ark.

 

[Gallon]

Probably nature control, kind of like Kaguya from Naruto.

 

[Arjuna]

Maybe ability to distort time & space.

 

[danh]

flash can relate to time when the speed is too intense, maybe her power relates to time, space and mother nature

 

[Tristan]

God> King indeed. Before we got her official title we were all calling her Goddess Queen. Supreme Deity should mean that she is above the other gods, if we take this litterally.

Supreme Deity or Supreme Goddess means that she's the highest of her race: Goddesses ... as easy as that!

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Demon King has already shown a fraction of Time Manipulation through the Commandment of Pacifism: "Anyone who kills in its presence will have their TIME stolen from them and rapidly age until they die." And there are still 5 commandments which we don't know what they cause when activated. I tend to think that the DK's power is much more versatile and complex than the SD (by what we have seen so far from Graces and Commandments --forget about The Ruler)

 

[revo]

Based on the graces it's probably something about nature...the AA can make oceans and storms and there's also Sunshine that already makes her so broken and that's just a little portion of her power. Her power must be incredibly OP

 

[Tristan]

flash can relate to time when the speed is too intense, maybe her power relates to time, space and mother nature

Still, "speed" and "time" are TOTALLY different in their essence. It may be true that they usually overlap, but Time is time and Speed remains speed.

 

[Shutensatsu]

So far it doesn't seem like goddesses ordinarily have abilities beyond ark so. At the very least no goddess evidences so. And graces don't count of course. I'd say its plausible the supreme deity does not have any special magic of her own, just lots and lots of ark.

The existence of the four graces themselves kind of confirm she can do things other than ark.

You said it yourself.

Ordinarily

She’s not a ordinary goddess. She’s a god.

 

[kkck]

The existence of the four graces themselves kind of confirm she can do things other than ark.

You said it yourself.

Ordinarily

She’s not a ordinary goddess. She’s a god.

I was talking about innate magics. As far as we know all races have the capacity to use magic independently of their unique racial traits. We have seen multiple people use a number of spells before. And of course the supreme deity can use generic magic. Her having an innate magic is a different issue altogether.

 

[Tragicdeath]

This would be hard because DK has the ruler that no matter what SD's magic is it wouldnt scathe him. On the other hand DK couldnt lay a hand on her either because most probably shes always at the one state not to include surreal ocean, tornado and flash. I would say its a draw because no matter what they do they just couldnt scathe each other. In other words no point of fighting. They just gonna destroy the area and end up unscathed.

PS: To those who voted both end up dead like what the fuck are you guys thinking. I mean do you guys seriously think, jesus christ. Why in the world would they end up killing each other where in fact both of them are unscathable. This option is a complete non sense.

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

Considering the Graces are her power, she should be able to use them to a much higher degree than the 4 AAs. Just imagine the possibility to combine Ark with her elements? A Tidal wave of Water and Ark? A raging storm made out of Ark etc. If Mael and Esca are powerful with Sunshine,imagine how powerful the SD must be.

 

[Demonspeed]

Fire: Cain, Demons in general with Hellblaze.
Ice: Jericho and Gustaf.
Wind: Howzer and Sariel.
Water: Tarmiel.
Lightning: Gilthunder, Zaratras, Wild.

Th SD's Magic being elemental powers would be lame, it's nothing that great in NNT and people like Merlin and Vivian can do this at various levels, the DK can do this too.

 

[Tragicdeath]

Fire: Cain, Demons in general with Hellblaze.
Ice: Jericho and Gustaf.
Wind: Howzer and Sariel.
Water: Tarmiel.
Lightning: Gilthunder, Zaratras, Wild.

Th SD's Magic being elemental powers would be lame, it's nothing that great in NNT and people like Merlin and Vivian can do this at various levels, the DK can do this too.

I think its not the magic that makes her OP its her unscathable state regardless of magic or physical strength like what AM Meliodas did to Escanor, 1000 divine slices in an instant, not an itch. And her ability to strike that cannot be calculated. Imagine if she does that randomly to DK because the ruler needs to be acivated before hes immune to anything specially magic because DK's just gonna absorb it and use it. That is why Ludociel's flash and Mael's sunshine state is remarkable

 

[Gallon]

Fire: Cain, Demons in general with Hellblaze.
Ice: Jericho and Gustaf.
Wind: Howzer and Sariel.
Water: Tarmiel.
Lightning: Gilthunder, Zaratras, Wild.

Th SD's Magic being elemental powers would be lame, it's nothing that great in NNT and people like Merlin and Vivian can do this at various levels, the DK can do this too.

It wouldn't be lame, it all depends on how it's handled. Sunshine, Ocean, and Tornado are all elemental, yet they're much more impressive than any other elemental magic in the series. If the SD's elemental magic is based on abstract concepts, it could potentially be amazing.

 

[Seven777]

Ocean and Tornado are pretty boring imo, there isnt really anything that sets them apart from what you'd expect an ordinary Holy Knight to have other than their power. Sunshine is the only grace that really interests me, and tbh since learning it was a grace it has become far less interesting, i guess the mystery behind it and The One was the main draw for me. Flash could be cool, we'll have to see how Ludociel uses it though.

All in all, SD's powers seem to be a lot more boring than the DK's.

 

[Demonspeed]

It wouldn't be lame, it all depends on how it's handled. Sunshine, Ocean, and Tornado are all elemental, yet they're much more impressive than any other elemental magic in the series. If the SD's elemental magic is based on abstract concepts, it could potentially be amazing.

They are not impressive because of the abilities temselves(to me at least), it's because Sariel and Tarmiel are powerful, though Tarmiel 's defense is nice. Even Galan was impressive despite the fact that he is all about physical abilities. If Howzer was at Sariel's level he would be impressive as well. I don't find Sun particularly impressive as well, it's boring but the power ups are what make it dangerous. Flash is the only one I find really cool by itself.

Of course, the SD's elemental powers are going to be more impressive than Merlin and the others but "elemental manipulation" itself is boring.