What makes you think that?That has several interpretations other than "Gildarts can compete with DGs".
Utterly ridiculous claim
Erza had 2 Spriggan fights where she almost died, in last two days. Then she fought against Berserk soldiers and got injured in the process. Then she blocked END/Gray, and got her arms visibly injured (one cracking, and other charred). Erza was nowhere close to being fresh when she fought Eileen. In fact, she was less fresh against Eileen than against Suzaku lmao
August fought near fresh Gildarts. I was only talking about Eileen, Zeref, Acno and Aldoron. Why bring in August here?
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Those trying to downplay Suzaku by "Natsu and Erza weren't fresh", must also apply the same standards to Zeref, Eileen and Aldoron.
Or else you're exposing yourselves to be massive hypocrites who use that logic only when it works in your favor
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You're probably right.As far as I'm concerned I have Gildarts beating her Dragon form as well. I have never bought that much into dragon scales hype either way , the reason Jura tiers couldn't harm the GMG dragons was cause the dragons were just above them in power. The fact that Wendy could harm them is more a testament to DS magic than their scales giving them an advantage. This is put into perspective when Alvarez Base Natsu can just oneshot Jura tiers with a roar without any significant effort. Dragon Irene is on August's level , when she was placed there her scales would've been taken into consideration as well , there's no reason to exclude particularly that. People on the dragon's level should be strong enough to bypass their scales and hurt them. It is no different from a hax , if you're on the person's level you can overcome it , cause it is a part of dragon body. Gildarts' hax worked on August , so it should work on Irene as well. And Crash is a hax , toughness or whatever doesn't determine whether he can crash it or not , power level does.
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Reason Mashima made that statement about Gildarts is cause all the BDSK's haven't shown up yet. When Gildarts appears he is fighting a BDSK. Mashima didn't consider Dragon Gods in that statement , cause it's very obvious to anyone reading the sequel. DG's are Natsu's enemy to fight. Diabolos guild is rest of FT's members' hurdle to overcome to get stronger. Their plot is fighting Diabolos. Obviously Gildarts won't show up until Diabolos' top tiers do.
Natsu barely struggled against Neinhart who is not good at physical combat. Natsu was amped when transforming into END, Natsu recovered after a long sleep and returning to normal. yeah, not the same thing.Natsu before facing Zeref:
- got injured by Neinhart and then destroyed him
- fought (no diff'd) Dimaria
- had a lengthy, drawn out battle against Gray
Natsu before facing Acno:
- all the above vs Zeref
- fought Zeref, and charred his entire arm in the process
Natsu before facing Aldoron:
- drawn out battle against Gajeel, where he nearly exhausted all his MP
- battle against Wraith
Natsu before facing Suzaku:
- fought against Lucy for some time holding back, and got stopped mid way before he got serious and one shotted her
- fought summons from Youko for some time
"BuT hE wAs NoT fReSh AgAiNsT sUzAkU"
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You're probably right.
I'm not someone who believes dragons can't be beaten by anyone but DS. If they encounter strong opponents, they would lose.
But I also think dragon scales offer more defense compared to regular human skin, assuming all other stats are same. Which is why I doubt Gildarts can hax dragon Eileen.
Anyway, I agree August can probably beat her without DS magic too
Yep exactly.
Now that black knigths have made an appearance, it's time for Gildarts to show up.
Anyone with basic common sense understands that DGs >>>> Gildarts, they're for Natsu to beat
Even more true now. He's likely even outright stronger than current DF Natsu, even ignoring the probable event that base Natsu gets one shot before he goes DFSuzaku was robbed. But the greatest sin of this tournament is still that 13 people voted for Jacob.
True. If this chapter came out during the finale, I would've voted Suzaku lol.Even more true now. He's likely even outright stronger than current DF Natsu, even ignoring the probable event that base Natsu gets one shot before he goes DF
True. If this chapter came out during the finale, I would've voted Suzaku lol.
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Well, the Dragon Gods and Acno have to be banish because they are too strong to compete with.Do we really need this? I mean it will be the same as last one. Still waiting for rating tournament with different classes
Only living chars? Natsu will winHence "All-Star".