Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Axiomus]

There's no way to tell when time is burning. Burning Natsu is more impressive than burning time.

They are the same flames cuz Ignia only used one attack. Mercphobia dropped the entire ocean on the city in an attempt to put out the flames from that one attack, and could only weaken them. Natsu ate the leftover flames, and gained enough power to stomp Mercphobia. Mercphobia used a serious roar against Natsu, and Ignia's flames vaporized the roar and knocked Mercphobia down. Natsu's final attack burned away the rest of Mercphobia's MP and reduced him to the level of a regular human. No matter how you spin it, the power from a single one of Ignia's attacks scales above the entirety of Mercphobia.

Ignia gave a speech while standing right in front of Selene. If Selene was caught off guard, that's on her. Selene tried to sneak attack Ignia from behind, and landed several blows while Ignia was in the middle of talking. Ignia is just stronger than her. Also, Zeref blindsided Natsu too with his black magic. It didn't put a hole in him.

You just spend the last few posts arguing that Natsu was universal. Ignia > Universal (lol) Natsu > Zeref = Pheonix. Zeref has never insta-killed anyone when he values life. His magic couldn't even break free from Gray's lost iced-shell. Natsu tackled Gray to the ground, and melted all the ice covering Zeref. Zeref's not overpowering a roar from Ignia.

 

[WoWfan]

just as there is no way to tell win time is in reverse, just only by when matter moved around, and again it doesm matter, statment > visual aid. Burning Time is Burning Natsu, Savage Fire is both power and hax while Ignia Flame is less but impressive power and hax. Natsu could use 2-7 different flames, no reason Ignia can’t either. Must be an impressively small ocean because ther are areas not submerged or wet from water, particularly where Ignia threw Natsu. Natsu ate the kind of flames that can burn water. He gained power but also the ability to burn anything. Which means that Merc was not serious before throwing tha body of water, Natsu said he needed his friends help so he is not at that level, so there. And Selene did not put Up a defense, she is a dragon and would have instinct to know when to protect herself, that is on her because he likes humans to an extent to not want to kill those who hunt her. And her breath could match his and even stomped him, she even used water to put out said flames that you claim can burn water. but Ignia and Selene were in a fight so his guard was up, he is cocky as Selene stated. Ignia is not as they ere evenly match. Zeref wanted to have fun with Natsu, even blew Natsu in DF away while in base. Ignia never showed Universal, just claims of country level destruction like any dragon were claimed to be capable of, and that visual represents him in Dragon form, and Selene in human form could enlarge the size of the moon and her power could be felt across dimensions, something Ignia could not do. Phoenix is more impressive than that and Zeref scales. Brandish is also country level as the nation destroyer, and the other Spriggans scale to that, because either they dodged or some scarf got in the way, he killed Zacrow. That means Advanced Ice Shell is strong enough to hold him, but even he said that won’t last forever. Natsu blind sided Gray to stop him, not first time that happened, nothing impressive, Nerfed Zeref can kill and damage DG dragon form, simple as, even dead Irene is DG human level as her magic can affect Selene and only works on those against it who’s magic is weaker than the caster.

 

[Axiomus]

There is a way to tell when time is reverse. The buildings around the area would start to reconstruct themselves. Not that it matters. Natsu was burned using Ignia's fire.

So you think Ignia used 2 different types of flames in the same attack? How does this change anything? The fact still remains that there is enough power in one of Ignia's attacks to make Natsu stronger than Mercphobia.

Ignia beat Selene lol. He scales above whatever you have Selene as. Ignia's guard wasnt up when Selene attacked him. Selene took him by surprise while he was in the middle of talking. He just tanked it. Bottom line: Ignia can blast holes in other God Dragons, which is strictly better than anything Zeref has done. Btw, the main Aldoron seed wasnt even aware of Zeref's existence when he was attacked. So I dont wanna hear anything about Ignia only hurting Selene because she wasnt paying attention. Ignia blowing a hole in Selene > Natsu blowing a hole in Aldoron > What Zeref did.

Natsu didnt just blindside Gray. He melted the ice that Zeref couldnt. Ignia's flames are strictly hotter.

Zeref killed Zancrow when he still valued life. He even apologized. It's not like Zeref stopped valuing life when he was unconscious. He woke up, saw what Hades was doing, and started to lose faith in humanity.

Lol...are you trying to scale Brandish to Ignia?

 

[WoWfan]

Or that is simply matter manipulation that puts it back the way it was. Because Ignia’s fire is hax. It changes that he used it so Natsu would eat it. Ignia cheated, plain and simple as her guard was down. Not it was as they were in a fight. You can talk while you are in a fight, anyone and everyone can do that, at the end they clearly stopped fighting which Ignia took advantage of. Doesn’t change that nerf Zeref can kill and damage Dragon gods. The seeds are linked to Aldoron so it would know when Aldoron is in danger, why would he melt the ice when it already partially froze Zeref? The ice was not even complete, besides. Natsu’s wasn’t even at max heat to compare to FH Zeref. So? Doesn’t mean he can’t kill in either state. Nope, just showing what your scaling implies by what you claimed was shown, and why that doesn’t work.

 

[Axiomus]

Except Zeref talks about having control over time when he does it.

Cheating would be sneaking up behind someone and going for a sneak attack. Selene picked the fight with him lmao. Ignia stood in front of Selene, and attacked at the end of his speech. Short of announcing, "Im going to attack you now" there wasnt much more he could do. If this was all it takes to take Selene by surprise, she was never gonna last against him. Nobody is on guard all the time in a fight. Selene took Ignia by surprise when he was trying to give a speech. She also hit him when he was laying on the ground stunned. Ignia is simply durable enough to tank Selene's attacks without being on guard.

Aldoron doesnt know what all the other seeds are thinking/seeing. The main god seed literally had no clue Zeref was even on his body when the death wave happened. Aldoron tanked Zeref's attack without even beingn aware of his existence. Natsu's attack did way more damage to Aldoron, and Ignia wants Natsu to become even stronger before they fight.

Natsu thawed all the ice to save Gray. He melted all the ice covering Zeref and the guild in the process. Doesnt matter if the ice wasnt complete. Zeref tried to use his magic to break out, but couldnt. Natsu melted it.

Come to think of it, Natsu with Igneel's power vaporized Zeref's magic with a wave of his hand. Ignia is stronger.

 

[WoWfan]

And that happened after he reversed time when he talks when time is norma, not during. Sneak attack is when someone who’s defenses are down and not even fighting takes advantage. Selene wasn’t even using her spells for that attack so she wasn’t even trying, just to get him away from the heart as that is how she wants to defeat him and Viernes. The two stopped fighting, Selene liked humans who don’t want to hunt her while Ignia took advantage of that, he wasn’t even saying that, he was saying “I would have killed Acno” and then shot the fire breath at the same time as he said “Just like this”, thaf by Definition is a sneak attack and a war crime even, to take advantage of a truce. Ignia was in no better shape, the two were evenly match, that is not a difference in power, the difference layed with personality and circumstance, if Natsu wasn’t there, the two would have likely killed each other, no when you are in a fight you are always on guard unless circumstances determine if you are not and lowers your defenses/stats. Incorrec, that was the end of the speech, and she was just trying to get him away from the heart, so? That attack was earned by her in a frontal assault, guess that means Ignia was weak even on guard lol. They are clearly able to feel each other, especially the brain when the other are gone or what they are doing and when they actively replace one another. Of course he does since that Zeref was the GS, that is not tanking, tanking something is when the attack is complete and not affected by it which he was, just not completed before the GS disappeared, no, Natsu’s attack did even less damage as the GS was not even worried when he saw that. That is because Zeref was the target, that only showed how strong Gray is with that spell. the spell was deactivated the moment Natsu bindsided Gray from behind, plus it is stated that only Moon drip can melt said ice, Natsu’s flames wouldn’t even do that, and no, Igneel’s power reacted to that of the Spriggan’s presence, Natsu could vaporize magic before without Igneel’s power, Igneel’s magic is just hax as it is the power of the dying.

 

[Axiomus]

So we agree that Zeref reversed time when he put himself and the guild back together.

Sneak attack is what Selene tried to do to Ignia. Teleport behind him and attacked when he didnt even know she was there.

War crime? Selene picked a fight with Ignia. Now she's crying foul for him wanting to attack her? What are you even trying to argue here? Im talking about durability. Ignia can tank Selene's attacks even when she catches him off guard. Nobody is on guard all the time in a fight. Selene hit Ignia when he was inthe middle of talking, and also when he was stunned and on the ground. Selene cant do the same with Ignia's roar.
Btw, Ignia was also burning Selene up when he lit her on fire. This was gonna kill Selene, so she resorts to teleporting into water. So this tells us that Ignia can burn a god dragon even without special flames that can burn water. Ignia is just stronger.

Natsu's attack did more damage than Zeref's death wave. It vaporized Aldoron's brain and blasted a in the dragon body's back, immediately killing him. It instantly vaporized the entire middle city. Zeref's attack killed some trees in a small circle. The curse would have needed to spread into Aldoron's vital organs before it actually killed him, and that would have been slow process seeing as Natsu could literally out run its spread.

That was way back on Galuna Island. Devil slaying ice also required moon drip, until it was revealed Atlas Flame's fire could melt it. Zeref then told us that you dont even need fire to melt iced shell. It would melt by itself given a really long time. In any case, Natsu melted the ice out Gray's body, which had begun turning to ice, and that inadvertently melted the ice covering Zeref. We see it happen:


So if even base Natsu could vaporize Zeref's magic, what makes you think Zeref's magic is ever gonna touch Ignia if he just lights himself on fire?

 

[WoWfan]

Only that he uses it after he gets blown away, not during. After he monologued and to just get him away from the heart, he know she was there as he called out to her and so did she, enough time to defend this erasing the concept of sneak attack. Picking a fight is one thing, attacking while cease firing is another, that is how. Durability goes down when one is not even putting up a fight or other conditions, he tanked nothing when he put up defense, yes they are when they know when they are being attacked like Ignia when they engaged fully aware, you are wrong when Ignia finished talking and they had time to talk to each other and the fact Selene was not in dragon mode. And yet she can put it out with water. And he was smacked around quite a bit and only resorted to sneak attack in a cease fire to win. No, his attack was less than Zeref’s if he didn’t even other trying to stop it before introducing himself, but Zeref’s death wave was more damaging, creating a crater and would kill Aldoron that demanded his erasure. That was Aldoron weakened, something a Spriggan could immobilize with DS attribute. That was nerfed Zeref remember not his full power. Ice Devil Slayer is not the same as Iced Shell. The only thing shown was Moon Drip that could melt it. Incorrect, all Zeref said it would
Melt someday, nothing about how, likely referring to Moon Drip, if Gray’s body is still in tact then it is incomplete as it requires the caster’s body to freeze. Again, doesn’t matter, blindsiding Gray can stop the spell. Death wave and that ends it, Aldoron couldn’t stop it so it required the seed’s death.

 

[Axiomus]

Like I said, Zeref reversed time when he put the guild back together. Even if Zeref wasn't trying to reverse time when he and Natsu had their final clash, it doesn't matter. The only reason he knew time was burning was because he had Fairy Heart's power.

Ignia didnt know Selene was there until she teleported behind him. He simply fast enough to react to her. Ignia didnt resort to sneak attacks lol. He got momentarily distracted by Natsu, gave a speach, and then blasted a hole in Selene. You dont get to complain about sneak attacks if you started a fight, and your opponent is standing in front of you giving a speech lol.

Natsu vaporized Aldoron's main god seed and blasted a hole Aldoron. This actually killed Aldoron. That's better flat out better than what Zeref's death wave did, which was slowly kill Aldoron at speed where Natsu could literally outrun.

Brandish and Gajeel did not immobolize Aldoron. Aldoron sees still had enough power to trade blows with DF Natsu. There's no way he didnt have enough strength to move the dragon body. He still had enough power to shoot thorns at the entire Fairy Tail guild, who were running for their lives. Besides, if Gajeel and Brandish did immobolize actually Aldoron, that means they did more damage than Zeref's death wave. Aldoron was moving fine after the death wave. Natsu's attack didfar more damage to Aldoron than Gajeel's attack and Zeref's death wave combined. Aldoron was talking about Natsu's new fire like it had the potential to burn the world.

It doesnt matter if the spell was incomplete. The incomplete spell was still overpowering Zeref. Natsu thawed Gray out and melted the ice that Zeref couldnt break.

Explain to me why Ignia can't just do this to Zeref's magic. Aldoron can't burn magic. Ignia's flames can.

 

[WoWfan]

And that was after he was obliterated, not before, because he doesn’t produce time, but manipulate the universal concept of time itself. And he had enough time to said her name and vice versa, thus negating the meaning of a sneak attack since he could mount a defense, she simply wasted it, not that she tried to kill him as to just get him away from the heart. Not when you waste your sneak attack just because you don’t put effort into it. If she wanted a sneak attack, just just put a portal inside Ignia and thrust her hand in between, or form a portal between Ignia’s torso and close it, slicing him in half. They both stopped by Natsu’s stop and Ignia blasted Selene when her guard was down, you do when you don’t give any indication to attack until it was too late. That was when Aldoron was weakened, not his peak like when Zeref did and worth the threat, who again was nerfed. Yes as was stated after Gajeel shrunk and shown as his body stopped moving, that was his brain tho when weakened. You can move blood and organs when your body don’t move. No difference here and have activity, again, body movement not required to use magic, as Brain sees proves. But the death wave never completed, GS killed itself to stop it from completing which is not tanking for Aldoron. Again, weakened Aldoron. So? The Phoenix can burn the world too and Zeref in base scales to it as the former’s power rivals his. No, even partial iced shell can be broken if the caster can move and is conscious. If it was never finished it doesn’t matter. Natsu’s flames don’t scale if Gray didn’t complete it. Natsu was even overpowered by Zeref after that and are needed Igneel’s hax flame

 

[Axiomus]

None of what you just posted changes what Im saying. Burning Natsu is more impressive than burning time. Ignia's flames can burn Natsu, meaning it's probably hot enough to burn time. Nobody noticed it was burning time, because quite frankly, burning timeis useless unless your opponent is trying to use time magic.

That simply means Selene's not fast enough to take Ignia by surprise, even when she teleports behind him. She has to spend time charging up for an attack. Like I said, nobody is on guard 100% of the time. UFC fighters and boxers get hit by shots they dont see coming all the time. Fighters train to setup shots to catch their opponent off guard all the time. Ignia didnt sneak attack Selene. He blitzed her. He gave a speech, and then roared. If this was enough to catch her off guard, then she wouldnt have lasted long against Ignia anyways. Ignia would have eventually landed a roar on her, and that would be it.

You seem to be under the impression that merely being aware you are in a fight somehow increases your durability. It doesnt. You need to block the attack, either physically or with magic. If someone can hit hard enough to put a hole in you, physically blocking the attack is out of the question. The only way Selene was surviving Ignia's roar is she used magic to block it. The same is not true in reverse. Ignia made no attempts to block any of Selene's attacks because he is confident she cant injure him. Moonlight butterfly caught him off guard in the middle of a monologue, and Moonlit Palm hit him when he was on the ground stunned. The fact that Selene is cautious of engaging another god dragon for fear of injury but Ignia isnt, honestly tells us all we need to know.

Aldoron's durability doesnt change when he's weakened. He just moves slower. Unlike Dogramag, Aldoron doesnt have special magic to increase his durability. His durability is just the natural toughness of his dragon scales and wood. Natsu's attack did far more damage than Zeref's attack, even accounting for the nerf. Aldoron still had enough power to shoot thorns to overwhelm the entire FT guild. Zeref's attack affected the area of a small building. Natsu's attack erased the entire middle city. Besides, there's the giant elephant in the room: Zeref is only a fraction of Aldoron's power. The wolfen god seed can turn into Zeref, Gildarts, and an army of Makarov at the same time. The wolfen god seed is weaker than the main Aldoron seed. Selene is stronger than Aldoron, god seeds and all. Ignia is stronger than Selene. Ignia > Selene > DF Natsu > Main Aldoron seed > Base Zeref. Ignia, Selene, and DF Natsu can all kill Aldoron faster than Zeref can.

Aldoron wasnt immobolized. He stopped moving to aim at himself with the thorns. If Aldoron still had enough MP to trade with DF Natsu, he could make the dragon body move if he wanted to. Heck, he made the dragon body shoot thorns that overpowered the entire FT guild, which is more impressive than just moving. Besides, even if Gajeel's attack did immobolize him, Natsu's attack still did far more damage than Gajeel and Zeref combined.

It doesnt matter if Gray never completed iced shell. Zeref couldnt break free from ice from the incomplete spell. Natsu then tackled Gray to the ground, and thawed Gray out. In the process of saving Gray, he melted all the ice covering Zeref. The ice from iced shell doesnt get easier to break once the user stops casting it.

Natsu was never overpowered by Zeref when he had Igneel's power. Zeref got one hit in, and then they traded evenly a few more times. It also doesnt matter if Igneel's flames are hax. They are still hot enough to burn Zeref's magic. You think Ignia's flames are hax too, so it shouldnt even matter. Neither of this explains why Ignia can't just burn away Zeref's death wave.

 

[WoWfan]

It does as burning Natsu with pure heat is more impressive than burning with hax via Ignia. Zancrow’s flames can burn Natsu because god flames are greater than dragon flames, so then I guess Zancrow beats Ignia. LoL. It does as like I said, heat translates to energy and since they are Planck Tempersture is affects time as a universal concept and not just from an individual’s magic. Or that Selene doesn’t take it seriously, just like everything else. Charging up for what? When people use magic it is pretty much instant unless stated otherwise. There is a different between shots that are on guard vs not on guard. People are on guard even while boxing and taking by surprise and their durability is better to handle it compared to not on guard and not fighting at all. Yes he did as he made no indication to attack until it was too late. He gave a speech and still talked while roaring to show his hostility during said road it does, especially in FT as consciousness is a factor in a fight. Jacob proved that with his eyes closed limited his capabilities twice. She survived his flames before when they were fighting, she even knocked him down with physical attacks and coughed blood. Making her a physical power house, and she stated he was over confident. It does change when weakened as magic is tied to one’s stats too and stamina, and his attacks are weaker too even when he is trying in said state. Nothing stated that Dog Dude has something for durability, just that his stones are part of his body. Natsu’s attack didn’t even phase Aldoron the first time when Aldoron was a full strength, and Zeref’s attack while he was nerfed did, that is undeniable fact. Enough so that fear gripped the GS to kill itself, you are saying, like that is his limit, when it was abruptly stopped midway and not completed. That Aldoron seed means nothing as those copies are a direct reflection of the individual’s power from the consciousness of the target. Ignia is the same level as the other DGs, even knowledge dragon stated, his knowledge beats you out there. Nothing stated he has to stop moving just to aim he can still attack even when moving or not. The fact he “stopped” was attributed to Gajeel’s efforts with Brandish’s aid. Just attacks were less affect then since before he had clear accuracy that required Gajeel to shield them. No, as his brain can still move even without the body moving, just like blood or organs. Magic can be done even without moving as Aldoron proved before. You are talking as if Zeref nerfed is same level when nerfed Zeref needed to die before Aldoron died. That showed Zeref is at that level of power. Because Fray was focused on Zeref and no other, it is the same with Ultear, none of her attacks worked until Iced Shell on Deliora which was physically stronger, same with Lyon at the time, Natsu even melted Gray’s ice back then with just a regular punch by that logic LOL as Gray’s body was already turning to ice. Which was not Iced Shell, just ice since the caster’s body was still in tact. He was as he was using Igneel’s flames during the entire fight, even Zeref felt it when Natsu took off the bandages. Maybe burn one spell but was enough to leave noticeable damage, hot to what temperature tho? Because there is a difference in power. Natsu can reach Planck temperatures while Ignia never showed that. Because the difference is power, which Zeref has.

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Plus it was stated in anime that if Iced Shell is not complete all the caster is doing is just releasing magic power to freeze, since it can be broken then it is not iced Shell.

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Last thing is that ice is not iced Shell if the body remains as it is unmeltable because it is the will of the caster, the only thing that can melt it is Moon Drip, melting it is the same as killing the caster with MD which makes it like any other Ice

 

[Axiomus]

No, it's not. Frankly, burning something is burning something. The end result is the same. Btw, you also called the flames Natsu beat Zeref with hax when I pointed out it uses a finite amount of MP. So what are you even arguing here?

You can tell by the position Selene was in that she going for an attack against Ignia. She just wasnt fast enough to actually launch the attack before Ignia noticed her.

I can assure you that even with your guard up, you still get hit by shots you never saw coming. This happens all the time. Your body isnt more durable simply by being aware you are in a fight. The reason why your more likely to get knocked out by hits you dont see is simply because you cant brace against or roll with the force. Ignia's roar blasted a hole in Selene's chest. No amount of bracing or rolling with the force was gonna change that.
Selene's only options were to dodge or block with her own magic.

Im obviously not talking about the first attack Natsu did. Im talking ablut the one that blasted a hole in Aldoron's back. That attack did more damage to Aldoron than Gajeel and Zeref combined, even accounting for Aldoron's magic being nerfed. Ankhseram's curse doesnt get weaker when you value life, it becomes harder to control. In fact, it's the most deadly when you love someone, because that's how Zeref and Mavis killed each other. Natsu even explains it during the chapter that the more precious you think life is, the more you steal life away.

Look at the ease in which Igneel's power burned Zeref's magic. Then look at Ignia ragdolling Natsu and Suzaku with the attack that busted Dogramag's labyrinth. Tell me with a straight face Zeref ever comes anywhere close to landing an attack on Ignia.

It doesnt matter if iced shell was complete or not. Im not arguing that Natsu can melt a complete iced shell. The incomplete iced shell was already overpowering Zeref.

 

[WoWfan]

Burning with hax and burning with power are two different things, it is by different means. it was hax based on power increase where at that point, physics breaks down, both are universal at that point where Natsu edges out in hax. Yet not putting effort into it if she took her time doing so, it is factual that she doesn't take things seriously, like how she wanted to retrieve the heart but wasted her time with games. and those shots would be reduced damage when you are in a state that your body is not in combat ready condition. It does, tensing muscles, sharpened senses, adrenaline pumping, all those are factors to being in combat ready conditions. And yet that was when her guard is down in a cease fire. She tanked his attack head on before and even struck him down. And that was when Aldoron was weakened, after everything that has happened Aldoron was definitely down on his last leg for Natsu to take him. Sure but you as the individual become weaker, that is why it releases more. being precious does not always mean love for a lover. And look at the ease which Zeref could overpower Natsu after that one attack before Natsu went FDKM, Zeref nerf can damage a DG in dragon form so base Zeref should be fine with Ignia. But all that is is Magic Power, not Ice Shell itself, it can be broken if the caster's body is still in tact, all that was is a delay tactic.

 

[Pirate Queen]

I've had Natsu over Laxus for years now but catching up on the 100 Year Quest this week rubbed salt in the wound. Natsu really has LDS Mode? Like wtf.

Really trying to replace Laxus now...

 

[XXGenesis]

Currently at 112 of the 100year Quest….
Don’t remember every feat or detail from
The final arc….Its so bad I can’t even finish the anime. However Ignia is above Selene.

DG are above Zeref. Most DG seemed to have been nerf’d Aldoron/ Stone DG….But yea they are above Zeref.


I’m confused because Selene vs Ignia was pretty str8 toward….Selene probably would have done more damage but Ignia would have taken her out in very similar matter. He don’t really cheap shot her, she simply couldn’t avoid or endure his Breathe from so close.

 

[WoWfan]

Currently at 112 of the 100year Quest….
Don’t remember every feat or detail from
The final arc….Its so bad I can’t even finish the anime. However Ignia is above Selene.

DG are above Zeref. Most DG seemed to have been nerf’d Aldoron/ Stone DG….But yea they are above Zeref.


I’m confused because Selene vs Ignia was pretty str8 toward….Selene probably would have done more damage but Ignia would have taken her out in very similar matter. He don’t really cheap shot her, she simply couldn’t avoid or endure his Breathe from so close.

The two have been equal before she could avoid his attack she even matched them since they are breath attacks.

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They were close just like the last panel

Nerfed Zeref was able to damage and would eventually kill a DG on his own before the seed impersonating him killed itself.

 

[Darklord#10]

Currently at 112 of the 100year Quest….
Don’t remember every feat or detail from
The final arc….Its so bad I can’t even finish the anime. However Ignia is above Selene.

DG are above Zeref. Most DG seemed to have been nerf’d Aldoron/ Stone DG….But yea they are above Zeref.


I’m confused because Selene vs Ignia was pretty str8 toward….Selene probably would have done more damage but Ignia would have taken her out in very similar matter. He don’t really cheap shot her, she simply couldn’t avoid or endure his Breathe from so close.

What about the black dragon slayer knight, what's your scaling on that.

 

[Axiomus]

Selene may have been able to block the roar with one of her own. But Ignia would have eventually hit her with another attack, and it would have ended the same way. Ignia landed the roar landed after giving a speech standing right in front of her. He wasnt trying to cheap shot her. She just couldnt react in time. If Selene couldnt react to that, she's simply not at the level where she can avoid every single one of Ignia's attacks. All Ignia needs to do to beat Selene is land a roar, or even a punch with the same power as his roar.

 

[WoWfan]

she would be fine as she took those attacks head on. And he was coughing blood from her physical attacks, it is not like he is immune either. That was when they were not fighting at the time and took advantage of the cease fire for his own gain. She was close enough to react to a roar attack before though, reaction is a matter of distance covered to perceive something incoming. She didn’t react because there wasn’t a reason to as she was not fighting.