Info Shin Prince of Tennis Tournament II - Information & Discussion

[Kaoz]

Welcome to the 2nd Shin Prince of Tennis Tournament​

This thread will serve as a place for all general tournament discussion. Please read the rules before posting. This post will be updated with various information as the tournament progresses.

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Information

This tournament features three categories, High Tier Singles, Low Tier Singles and Doubles, and a total of 26 characters. Eight characters/pairs are entered in each category, resulting in a total of 21 matches.​

Spoiler: Brackets and Results

Spoiler: Singles - High Tier

Round 1

Block A: Shiraishi Kuranosuke vs Kite Eishirou (8 - 6)
Block B: Inui Sadaharu vs Yamato Yuudai (6 - 8)
Block C: Tachibana Kippei vs Kirihara Akaya (12 - 0)
Block D: Kaidou Kaoru vs Momoshiro Takeshi (3 - 12)


Round 2

Shiraishi Kuranosuke vs Yamato Yuudai (4 - 6)
Tachibana Kippei vs Momoshiro Takeshi (10 - 1)


Final

Yamato Yuudai vs Tachibana Kippei (7 - 6)

Spoiler: Singles - Low Tier

Round 1

Block A: Kikumaru Eiji vs Shishido Ryou (4 - 5)
Block B: Hiyoshi Wakashi vs Hirakoba Rin (8 - 4)
Block C: Kai Yuujirou vs Sengoku Kiyosumi (7 - 2)
Block D: Akutagawa Jirou vs Amane Hikaru (1 - 6)


Round 2

Shishido Ryou vs Hiyoshi Wakashi (0 - 9)
Kai Yuujirou vs Amane Hikaru (8 - 0)


Final

Hiyoshi Wakashi vs Kai Yuujirou (3 - 5)

Spoiler: Doubles

Round 1

Block A: Miyako Shinobu / Yanagi Renji vs Oishi Shuuichirou / Momoshiro Takeshi (5 - 3)
Block B: Chitose Senri / Inui Sadaharu vs Marui Bunta / Kaidou Kaoru (6 - 4)
Block C: Shiraishi Kuranosuke / Matsudaira Chikahiko vs Tachibana Kippei / Kirihara Akaya (8 - 4)
Block D: Oshitari Kenya / Oshitari Yuushi vs Nakagauchi Sotomichi / Yagyuu Hiroshi (5 - 2)


Round 2

Miyako Shinobu / Yanagi Renji vs Marui Bunta / Kaidou Kaoru (1 - 3)
Shiraishi Kuranosuke / Matsudaira Chikahiko vs Oshitari Kenya / Oshitari Yuushi (6 - 2)


Final

Marui Bunta / Kaidou Kaoru vs Shiraishi Kuranosuke / Matsudaira Chikahiko (6 - 4)

Spoiler: Characters

Name: Akutagawa Jirou
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: May 5th
Height: 160 cm
Weight: 49 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Serve and Volley

Name: Amane Hikaru
Grade: Middle School 2nd Year
Birthday: November 22nd
Height: 180 cm
Weight: 69 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Aggressive Baseliner

Name: Chitose Senri
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: December 31st
Height: 194 cm
Weight: 81 kg
Handedness: Left
Playstyle: All Rounder

Name: Hirakoba Rin
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: March 3rd
Height: 172 cm
Weight: 54 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: All Rounder

Name: Hiyoshi Wakashi
Grade: Middle School 2nd Year
Birthday: December 5th
Height: 172 cm
Weight: 60 kg
Handedness: Right
Playsytle: Aggressive Baseliner

Name: Inui Sadaharu
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: June 3rd
Height: 184 cm
Weight: 62 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Serve and Volley

Name: Kai Yuujirou
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: August 27th
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 63 kg
Handedness: Left
Playstyle: Aggressive Baseliner

Name: Kaidou Kaoru
Grade: Middle School 2nd Year
Birthday: May 11th
Height: 173 cm
Weight: 57 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Counter Puncher

Name: Kikumaru Eiji
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: November 28th
Height: 171 cm
Weight: 52 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Serve and Volley

Name: Kirihara Akaya
Grade: Middle School 2nd Year
Birthday: September 25th
Height: 168 cm
Weight: 61 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Aggressive Baseliner

Name: Kite Eishirou
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: November 9th
Height: 179 cm
Weight: 72 kg
Handedness: Left
Playstyle: All Rounder

Name: Marui Bunta
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: April 20th
Height: 164 cm
Weight: 62 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Serve and Volley

Name: Matsudaira Chikahiko
Grade: High School 3rd Year
Birthday: March 31st
Height: 176 cm
Weight: ?
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Serve and Volley

Name: Miyako Shinobu
Grade: High School 3rd Year
Birthday: June 28th
Height: 184 cm
Weight: 73 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: All Rounder

Name: Momoshiro Takeshi
Grade: Middle School 2nd Year
Birthday: July 23rd
Height: 170 cm
Weight: 58 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Aggressive Baseliner

Name: Nakagauchi Sotomichi
Grade: High School 3rd Year
Birthday: July 14th
Height: 187 cm
Weight: 78 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Aggressive Baseliner

Name: Oishi Shuuichirou
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: April 30th
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 55 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Counter Puncher

Name: Oshitari Kenya
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: March 17th
Height: 177 cm
Weight: 63 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Counter Puncher

Name: Oshitari Yuushi
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: October 15th
Height: 178 cm
Weight: 64 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: All Rounder

Name: Sengoku Kiyosumi
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: November 25th
Height: 170 cm
Weight: 59 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: All Rounder

Name: Shiraishi Kuranosuke
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: April 14th
Height: 178 cm
Weight: 66 kg
Handedness: Left
Playstyle: All Rounder

Name: Shishido Ryou
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: September 29th
Height: 172 cm
Weight: 60 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Counter Puncher

Name: Tachibana Kippei
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: August 15th
Height: 179 cm
Weight: 67 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: All Rounder

Name: Yagyuu Hiroshi
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: October 19th
Height: 177 cm
Weight: 64 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Serve and Volley

Name: Yamato Yuudai
Grade: High School 2nd Year
Birthday: August 8th
Height: 182 cm
Weight: 68 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Counter Puncher

Name: Yanagi Renji
Grade: Middle School 3rd Year
Birthday: July 4th
Height: 181 cm
Weight:67 kg
Handedness: Right
Playstyle: Counter Puncher


More characters will be added as they are revealed.

 

[Kaoz]

The Block A matches of the first round are over. The Bible of Naniwa, Shiraishi Kuranosuke, managed to secure an early lead against Kite Eishirou, and despite the Hitman starting a comeback, Shiraishi moves on to the next round with 8 votes to 6. Shishido did what Kite couldn't and managed to pull off a last minute victory against Kikumaru Eiji (5 - 4). In doubles, Miyako and Yanagi took the lead against Oishi/Momoshiro and defended it to the end, they won their match 5 - 3.

With the conclusion of Block A, we now move on to Block D with the following matches:
Singles - High Tier: Kaidou Kaoru vs Momoshiro Takeshi
Singles - Low Tier: Akutagawa Jirou vs Amane Hikaru
Doubles: Oshitari Kenya / Oshitari Yuushi vs Nakagauchi Sotomichi / Yagyuu Hiroshi

 

[Ninomiya]

How in hell did Kikumaru lose to Shishido in Singles?
Didn't Kikumaru eventually gain stamina above Shishido's and Ootori's at Nationals?

The reason Shishido lost is because eventually, Ootori broke his serve. That's the only way to lose in a tie-break after 6-6.
So Ootori is better than Shishido slightly for any reference.

Kikumaru can use Seal Step, so really and truly I don't see Shishido taking him out.
The Motion Vision, The Bazooka, I mean sure the Rising Counter allows him to cope with the smashes but its not Doubles where he can run around with Ootori covering for him.

Kikumaru has the ability to run around with with well... Kikumaru covering for him... through the Seal Step so this is all in Kikumaru's favour.

Tell me why you would see Shishido beating Viking Horn? He can't read where the shot will land.
Tell me why he can return Habu on serves and Smashes?
If it worked on Regionals!Fuji for some games then its gonna work on Shishido. That's a fact.

UNLESS... There are people on here who would like to say something like I dunno... Shishido > Regionals!Fuji.

Damn. One match that I miss and its one where my vote would have changed everything.
I'd like people to just explain to me how in hell Kikumaru doesn't win there.

Wait no there's more.
Ootori lost to a 6thCourt dude. There is no mention of Kikumaru losing to any HSer during that space of time.
Ootori who took out Shishido and broke his serve and had his own serve untouched, lost a 6thCourt guy lol.

Kikumaru got to 6thCourt with no problem as far as we know.

Honestly. How do we work out that Shishido Ryou wins here...
I'm assuming everybody here thinks that Shishido will beat Akutagawa Jirou in Singles then if you think he can beat Kai Yuujiro and Kikumaru Eiji in Singles lmao.

 

[Kaoz]

Block D's matches have concluded. We got to see some decisive victories this time, Momoshiro beat his longtime rival Kaidou 12 - 3, Amane "Davide" Hikaru defeated Akutagawa Jirou 6 - 1. In the last match, the Oshitari cousins secured 5 votes and eliminated the pair of Nakagauchi Sotomichi and Yagyuu Hiroshi (2 votes).

Next up is Block C with the following matches:
Singles - High Tier: Tachibana Kippei vs Kirihara Akaya
Singles - Low Tier: Kai Yuujirou vs Sengoku Kiyosumi
Doubles: Shiraishi Kuranosuke / Matsudaira Chikahiko vs Tachibana Kippei / Kirihara Akaya

 

[Hardy]

KIRIHARA AND SENGOKU

 

[LetalHawk]

Lol hardy it's time to praise the mighty Sengoku.

 

[Ninomiya]

If you want to include Kaidou's mindset as Momoshiro's rival, I see no reason to exclude Momoshiro's mindset.

I then said against any general player as oppose to specific player.

I have already addressed this issue. Hara and Taira clearly aimed at Momoshiro, the blood in his face is proof of that. As a result, Momoshiro naturally also got more opportunities to hit BJK. On the other hand, even if you say that Kaidou would try to return BJK, he certainly wouldn't target Momoshiro like that, it goes against his playstyle and the purpose of his various special moves.

Momoshiro was able to hit BJK regardless of whether or not Taira/Hara aimed at him. His ability to land Jack Knifes in matches no matter the circumstance is highly notable and it would be borderline delusional if you think Kaidoh can avoid a bunch of BJK's in a 1 set match let alone a game.

He could against Yushi, and in terms of technique, its highly likely Yushi has higher technique.
Momoshiro was hitting Jack Knife prior to BJK against Taira/Hara, also, despite aiming for his face, its clear they were aiming to brutalise him and were not aiming for him to try out his BJK on them.
They weren't testing Momo's BJK, they were trying to render him unable to play.
But Momoshiro clearly managed to sustain and endure their attempts and land BJK's.

Remembering Bakyuun is a shot like the Lasers, This match is all in Momoshiro's favour to win. Or rather, its extremely hard for Momo to lose.

This is irrelevant. The point isn't which level Oni was at with a 2 string racket, but the fact that he went easy on Momoshiro. Saying Momoshiro tricked Oni only holds value when Oni tried his hardest as well.

Irrelevant is a strong word. It was a Gimp!Oni.
If you still value what Kite did against a Gimp!Tezuka then how can you not value the efforts of Momo against a Gimp!Oni?
That's unfair.

 

[Kaoz]

I then said against any general player as oppose to specific player.

And why does this matter?

Momoshiro was able to hit BJK regardless of whether or not Taira/Hara aimed at him. His ability to land Jack Knifes in matches no matter the circumstance is highly notable and it would be borderline delusional if you think Kaidoh can avoid a bunch of BJK's in a 1 set match let alone a game.

No, we don't know that. We only know that Momoshiro was able to hit BJK when Hara/Taira aimed at him, we don't have any information on whether or not he would have been able to do so if they hadn't. My argument is that Momoshiro was able to hit BJK in that situation because they aimed at him, not despite of it.

Remembering Bakyuun is a shot like the Lasers, This match is all in Momoshiro's favour to win. Or rather, its extremely hard for Momo to lose.

How do you figure that it has anything in common with the Lasers? It didn't seem that fast to me.

 

[Hardy]

And why does this matter?

Well, Airgrimes is talking about Kaidoh's mental, it does matter.

On the other hand "would Momoshiro really be willing to hit BJK in a way that it actually injures Kaidou?" is more of a specific thing rather than something general about his mental. Personal relationships shouldn't really be taken into consideration, both of the players should be going all in no matter his rival.

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Also, just like Oishi didn't let Kikumaru lose points on porpuse, I don't think that Kaidoh would like the idea of playing against Momo with 50 % strength BJKs...

 

[Phantron]

Well, Airgrimes is talking about Kaidoh's mental, it does matter.

On the other hand "would Momoshiro really be willing to hit BJK in a way that it actually injures Kaidou?" is more of a specific thing rather than something general about his mental. Personal relationships shouldn't really be taken into consideration, both of the players should be going all in no matter his rival.

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Also, just like Oishi didn't let Kikumaru lose points on porpuse, I don't think that Kaidoh would like the idea of playing against Momo with 50 % strength BJKs...

BJK is one of those move that does damage because it's so powerful not because it's purposely trying to hurt someone, so I don't see why Momoshiro would hold back.

 

[Hardy]

Do you agree with me?

 

[Ninomiya]

No, we don't know that. We only know that Momoshiro was able to hit BJK when Hara/Taira aimed at him, we don't have any information on whether or not he would have been able to do so if they hadn't. My argument is that Momoshiro was able to hit BJK in that situation because they aimed at him, not despite of it.

Actually, Momoshiro leapt forward to hit his Jack Knife earlier on in the match when they weren't specifically aiming at him.
The shots weren't aimed at Momoshiro for him to hit, they were at his face.
We can assume that is Hara's Play Style as he sent a Moukohan straight for Kenya's body.

Kenya is unable to react, whereas Momoshiro is able to return it with BJK. Just the fact that Momoshiro/Kenya pair won in the end, means that he can confidently hit BJK against high level opponents.
It is more likely that Taira/Hara were trying to win the match as oppose to hitting shots for Momoshiro to BJK them with.
I highly doubt Taira/Hara were committing sporting suicide there.

How do you figure that it has anything in common with the Lasers? It didn't seem that fast to me.

For me it was the unusual spin it seems to have. Lasers have an unusual spin, well, two of them do.

 

[Kaoz]

Actually, Momoshiro leapt forward to hit his Jack Knife earlier on in the match when they weren't specifically aiming at him.
The shots weren't aimed at Momoshiro for him to hit, they were at his face.
We can assume that is Hara's Play Style as he sent a Moukohan straight for Kenya's body.

Yes, exactly. My point is that they were hitting their shots close to his body in order to injure him. Kaidou wouldn't do that however, his shots are meant to avoid the opponent.

For me it was the unusual spin it seems to have. Lasers have an unusual spin, well, two of them do.

I see. It didn't appear that fast to me because Momoshiro could move into the opposite direction, but still get his racket on it. That said there are definitely shots in this series that have a strong spin and aren't known for their speed.

 

[Ninomiya]

Yes, exactly. My point is that they were hitting their shots close to his body in order to injure him. Kaidou wouldn't do that however, his shots are meant to avoid the opponent.

I would say that only Hara was aiming it at him. Taira wasn't specifically aiming to injure the opponent imo.
Taira and Hara had/have rather different play styles. I say "had" since they are essentially going to be pure and absolute fodder from now on it seems.

 

[Kaoz]

Tachibana Kippei defeats Kirihara Akaya with a decisive 12 - 0. Kai beats Sengoku 7 - 2 and Shiraishi/Matsudaira score an 8 - 4 win against Tachibana/Kirihara. With this, Block C's matches have finished.

To conclude the first round, Block B's matches are up now:
Singles - High Tier: Inui Sadaharu vs Yamato Yuudai
Singles - Low Tier: Hiyoshi Wakashi vs Hirakoba Rin
Doubles: Chitose Senri / Inui Sadaharau vs Marui Bunta / Kaidou Kaoru

 

[Hardy]

Kai beats Sengoku 7 - 2

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Wait what? I was the only one that voted for him? :/

 

[LetalHawk]

No hardy I voted for him too.

 

[Hardy]

Then how did he lose 2-7 ?

How many posts I have to do to have it counted as double?

 

[Kaoz]

From what I remember, only Hardy voted for Sengoku. Maybe you forgot to vote in the poll, Letal?

 

[LetalHawk]

No I'm sure I voted for him too. Unless there was an error, I perfectly remember that I voted for him.