Lol Sophia foreshadowed all this in her convo with Hwa Ryun. Hwa Ryun being a guide already knew, her and Luslecās goal was to get Sophia involved! Luslec is here, only means that Bam is ready for all-out war!!!
Lol because after 1 of the FHs fall, Luslec will just go back and hide in the darkness! Cāmon now Wolk easily found Luslec, Iām sure the FH that wants Luslec is currently heading his way!
We have two FHs, Luslec and Wolhaiksong here. I don't see another FH appearing here, excepted maybe if that was part of Gustang's plan(I doubt he would do that). There is enough to do with the current cast.
We have two FHs, Luslec and Wolhaiksong here. I don't see another FH appearing here, excepted maybe if that was part of Gustang's plan(I doubt he would do that). There is enough to do with the current cast.
I 100% disagree! It has already been stated that if Luslec moves a FH would retaliate! Tiara hinted that Gustang has support from other FHs! Zahard warned Traum not get other families involved but itās too late Traum is failing - lost control over Bam, which Iām sure Zahard anticipated already!
RoZA forces should be somewhere nearby on standby! Lyb is supposed to be leading the LPB army!!!
I 100% disagree! It has already been stated that if Luslec moves a FH would retaliate! Tiara hinted that Gustang has support from other FHs! Zahard warned Traum not get other families involved but itās too late Traum is failing - lost control over Bam, which Iām sure Zahard anticipated already!
RoZA forces should be somewhere nearby on standby! Lyb is supposed to be leading the LPB army!!!
FH didn't retaliate because Luslec moved, Luslec came because of the FHs. There are already two here.
Gustang being supported by some FHs doesn't mean they have to show up here. I am pretty sure that Gustang believes that he can deal with Traumerei by himself.
Traumerei asked Zahard to leave this to him, that's why I am not expecting anyone else from this side.
We need more that important figures appearing, doing nothing or barely anything then disappearing for hype. Nothing significant has been done with Luslec yet and Traumerei has been a pretty bad antagonist all things considered.
Two families, both lead by their FHs shouldn't need another family's support.
FH didn't retaliate because Luslec moved, Luslec came because of the FHs. There are already two here.
Gustang being supported by some FHs doesn't mean they have to show up here. I am pretty sure that Gustang believes that he can deal with Traumerei by himself.
Traumerei asked Zahard to leave this to him, that's why I am not expecting anyone else from this side.
We need more that important figures appearing, doing nothing or barely anything then disappearing for hype. Nothing significant has been done with Luslec yet and Traumerei has been a pretty bad antagonist all things considered.
Two families, both lead by their FHs shouldn't need another family's support.
S3ch50 Sophia clearly states that a FH would move if Luslec does, causing All-Out war. Luslec has appeared and fanned the flames for war! What, do you think heās going to go back and hide in the dark after LOL????
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Traum didnāt ask Zahard for anything, Zahard told him to deal with Gustang lol and not get other families involved
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The war does not end after 1 or both families fall LOL!
S3ch50 Sophia clearly states that a FH would move if Luslec does, causing All-Out war. Luslec has appeared and fanned the flames for war! What, do you think heās going to go back and hide in the dark after LOL????
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Traum didnāt ask Zahard for anything, Zahard told him to deal with Gustang lol and not get other families involved
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The war does not end after 1 or both families fall LOL!
You are talking as if Luslec was the bigger fish in this event. He isn't. It's Luslec who came because of the FHs. Without that event he would still be "in the darkness".
He is just waiting for an opportunity. It's not like he challenged one of them.
I could be wrong but am pretty sure that Traumerei asked Zahard to let him deal with Gustang. It's been said that Traumerei is eager to please Zahard.
LMFAO Traum didn't ask Zahard for shit!!! Did you forget the convo btw the 2 before the Nest LOL?!?!?!?! Robadon has stated multiple times that his father does not want this war LOL!!!
You are talking as if Luslec was the bigger fish in this event. He isn't. It's Luslec who came because of the FHs. Without that event he would still be "in the darkness".
He is just waiting for an opportunity. It's not like he challenged one of them.
LMFAO now that heās appeared do you honestly believe heās going to be allowed to go back into hiding??? Heās the leader of an organization that wants all FHs dead lol, if Traum is the last one standing why would he let Luslec go???
We have two FHs, Luslec and Wolhaiksong here. I don't see another FH appearing here, excepted maybe if that was part of Gustang's plan(I doubt he would do that). There is enough to do with the current cast.
Lol because after 1 of the FHs fall, Luslec will just go back and hide in the darkness! Cāmon now Wolk easily found Luslec, Iām sure the FH that wants Luslec is currently heading his way!
āTraumerei doesnāt want anything to do with this war?ā
Traumerei wants Baam!
the only delusional here is Lobadon
He donāt care if his DD die for it.
it was not an order it was a favor/request that Traumerei could turn down but he clearly said
That he would do it if Zahard let him do whatever he want with Baam, Zahard accepted.
āTraumerei doesnāt want anything to do with this war?ā
Traumerei wants Baam!
the only delusional here is Lobadon
He donāt care if his DD die for it.
it was not an order it was a favor/request that Traumerei could turn down but he clearly said
That he would do it if Zahard let him do whatever he want with Baam, Zahard accepted.
It's as safe bet that at this point traumerei was already anticipating a larger war. Considering how much effort gustang has put into the war with the LPB so far it's quite clear that he would have pursued them even if traumerei didn't take the initiative as it is gustang who is actively seeking all out war.
Yes, Lobadon has his thoughts on this matter but Traumerei is very loyal to Zahard and asked him to let him deal with Baam. Maybe the war with Gustang is another matter, but he decided to get involved knowing that Baam was an important asset in all of this.
Traumerei might really not want this war deep down, but he is doing this because he believes it's the best way to support Zahard.
LMFAO now that heās appeared do you honestly believe heās going to be allowed to go back into hiding??? Heās the leader of an organization that wants all FHs dead lol, if Traum is the last one standing why would he let Luslec go???
I DONāT THINK TRAUMEREI IS THAT LOYAL TO ZAHARD I BELIEVE THAT HIM AND ZAHARD ARE THAT ONE LESS INTERESTED IN RECOVERING PAST MEMORIES CAUSE THIS MEMORIES/SINS CAN PUT THE EMPIRE AT RISK BY DIVIDING THE FHs
THE CONFUSING PART TO ME IS THAT
ZAHARD AND GUSTANG CAN REMEMBER ARLENE AND BABY BAAM
GUSTANG CAN ALSO REMEMBER V AND ICARUS
BUT TRAUMEREI CANāT REMEMBER V, ARLENE, ICARUS AND BABY BAAM.
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If i have to guess which is the other family head
backing Gustang if a safe bet that is Edhan
these top 3 family are large and powerful enough to face the empire thatās why Gustang donāt care about sacrificing his own family bc it donāt make any sense to sacrifice your own family when you are planning going agains every Great Family in the tower
Gustang is looking to delete the real world like he did with the data world.
I don't think it's necessarily the case that traumerei remembers all the stuff which traumerei doesn't. It's also inconclusive whether traumerei remembers V and arlen. It's ultimately possible gustang learned about all that stuff through independent research and is otherwise BSing his way through the plot. There's a good chance that gustang simply lied about V to bam and went with that over how little he could learn about him.
Yes, Lobadon has his thoughts on this matter but Traumerei is very loyal to Zahard and asked him to let him deal with Baam. Maybe the war with Gustang is another matter, but he decided to get involved knowing that Baam was an important asset in all of this.
Traumerei might really not want this war deep down, but he is doing this because he believes it's the best way to support Zahard.
Again he didnāt ask Zahard for anything! 1st of all Zahard found out that Traum was gathering his army when he called him! And as we later learned Traum fully intended for Bam to devour Levi!!! MO the wedding proposal and testing Bam was all a ruse!!! Traum just like Gustang wants to know his missing memories but Traum for some idiotic reason likes to play games!!!
I don't think it's necessarily the case that traumerei remembers all the stuff which traumerei doesn't. It's also inconclusive whether traumerei remembers V and arlen. It's ultimately possible gustang learned about all that stuff through independent research and is otherwise BSing his way through the plot. There's a good chance that gustang simply lied about V to bam and went with that over how little he could learn about him.
Going off the conversation btw Traum and Gustang, Traum mentioned that all the FHs used their own methods to forget painful memories. Yes it seems they all forgot why they choose to stop the climb but Iām pretty sure each FH had their own personal memories that they choose to forget!!! It was never stated that they all forgot the same memories LOL!!!
As we see in Icarusā story they were not always climbing together!
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The frustrating question Iāve been asking myself for a while now; WTF is SIU doing with Karaka??? and now his broken armor BS?!?!?!
If him and Dumas have similar armor, why doesnāt Karakaās armor get stronger like Dumasā??? Yuri, Urek, Khel, and Kallavan have done just as much damage and/or greater to Karaka but now after facing Dumas heās out of commission!!! WTF SIU, make it make sense!
Again he didnāt ask Zahard for anything! 1st of all Zahard found out that Traum was gathering his army when he called him! And as we later learned Traum fully intended for Bam to devour Levi!!! MO the wedding proposal and testing Bam was all a ruse!!! Traum just like Gustang wants to know his missing memories but Traum for some idiotic reason likes to play games!!!
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Going off the conversation btw Traum and Gustang, Traum mentioned that all the FHs used their own methods to forget painful memories. Yes it seems they all forgot why they choose to stop the climb but Iām pretty sure each FH had their own personal memories that they choose to forget!!! It was never stated that they all forgot the same memories LOL!!!
As we see in Icarusā story they were not always climbing together!
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The frustrating question Iāve been asking myself for a while now; WTF is SIU doing with Karaka??? and now his broken armor BS?!?!?!
If him and Dumas have similar armor, why doesnāt Karakaās armor get stronger like Dumasā??? Yuri, Urek, Khel, and Kallavan have done just as much damage and/or greater to Karaka but now after facing Dumas heās out of commission!!! WTF SIU, make it make sense!
Traumerei asked Zahard to let him deal with Baam. He said he'll turn him into one of his servants.
He wanting Baam to devour Leviathan is is something Kirin asked him, he never said that's what he had in mind. I don't see why he would want Baam to know his whole story. But Baam being so quiet about this and not doing anything interesting with his memories(so far) is one of the bad things about this arc.
Karaka is much weaker than Dumas, I don't see what's confusing about that.
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