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Yeah but sword is supposed to be "different" isn't that the whole point of the division?I think you are forgetting how evil the Marines can be in One Piece
Yeah but sword is supposed to be "different" isn't that the whole point of the division?I think you are forgetting how evil the Marines can be in One Piece
I m sure its not openly know, BB only hear it after Aokiji tell him, n ofcurse he know about it,,Yeah felt like sword was originally an underground thing and now just about everyone knows it was a division of marines all along. Like X Drake being a sword member doesn't make sense to me now
I can already see this conversion:Faction of Sword called Dagger
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My big issue is that Sword doesn't seem all that secret. In your example of real life agencies the people who are undercover have 0 public ties with the agencies they are a part of. In OP everyone knows that Koby is a marine so hard to argue he is a secret double agent.Naaah.
It's common sense for a military, let alone a global military to have a secret intelligence unit. Exists in any noteworthy real world military, too, an example would be the German MAD or American DIA with its various subdivisions.
The entire idea of Sword being an underground faction had zero support from the Manga and Kizaru letting go of X Drake on Sabaody already pointed at the opposite.
This was really a primary example of wishful thinking within the community growing into headcanon, the idea of an "underground faction" within the Marines and opposed to its leadership had existed long before Sword was even introduced.
Any and all Marines are only as good as they can be in their position in a global imperialist military.
No, SWORD aren't supposed to be morally better, but they don't necessarily obey the chain of commandYeah but sword is supposed to be "different" isn't that the whole point of the division?
Can you tell me where you're basing this on? I feel like I missed somethingNo, SWORD aren't supposed to be morally better, but they don't necessarily obey the chain of command
In Drake's case, Marines are not supposed to mess with the Yonko
What part are you asking?Can you tell me where you're basing this on? I feel like I missed something
Real life intelligence agencies aren't secret either. However neither are most Marines public figures, nor is the Sword affiliation of publicly known Marines public, so there is no issue. Pirates shouldn't trust anyone anyways.My big issue is that Sword doesn't seem all that secret. In your example of real life agencies the people who are undercover have 0 public ties with the agencies they are a part of. In OP everyone knows that Koby is a marine so hard to argue he is a secret double agent.
A true double agent example we have seen is Vergo who was a pirate first but joined the Marines when he was a nobody. Had sword been filled with marines who were publicly never known as marines (except to top brass and us readers) it would have made much better sense. In essence I think Rosinante was closest thing to this that we've seen on the Marine's side.
The agencies being secret isn't what I'm talking about. I'm saying a secret agent shouldn't have any public affiliations to the agency in question since that always introduces high suspicion. These affiliations should be secret as to not rouse suspicion.Real life intelligence agencies aren't secret either. However neither are most Marines public figures, nor is the Sword affiliation of publicly known Marines public, so there is no issue. Pirates shouldn't trust anyone anyways.
Thanks. Who knows, he may have been collecting bounties for some Marines but was betrayed (like Nami with Arlong) when he brought some billion bounty heads. So he decided to hunt down the Marines to make them pay. Then after a few years he joined the Shichibukai to be at peace with the Marine organization that was harassing him back.Oh, so Mihawk once trusted the Marines in the past only to feel betrayed by them to the point of resenting them?
Which makes me wonder how strong his grudge is now given how he was willing enough to fight alongside the Marines at Marineford.Thanks. Who knows, he may have been collecting bounties for some Marines but was betrayed (like Nami with Arlong) when he brought some billion bounty heads. So he decided to hunt down the Marines to make them pay. Then after a few years he joined the Shichibukai to be at peace with the Marine organization that was harassing him back.
I guess it's possible Mihawk tried to be a Marine in the past like how Dragon did, but then fell out with them after feeling betrayed and not being on the same page with their views.Hmmm, the marines betraying mihawk is an interesting bit of lore but otherwise the question doesn't add that much. It's not exactly news that mihawk simply wants to fuck off from the radar and stay fucked off. I'd guess he simply wants strong enemies and there's at best a handful of people alive worth fighting and even fewer that are swordsmen. His actual target market is so reduced (shanks) that he decided to give zoro a shot... and that would raise said target market to two...
If I were to guess at such a backstory I'd guess his issue would be that he prioritized fighting strong people over being a marine.I guess it's possible Mihawk tried to be a Marine in the past like how Dragon did, but then fell out with them after feeling betrayed and not being on the same page with their views.
The betrayal was probably that they didn't promote him because he was only good in swordamanship and to be promoted you need to be good in alot of areas.I guess it's possible Mihawk tried to be a Marine in the past like how Dragon did, but then fell out with them after feeling betrayed and not being on the same page with their views.
When your young and stubborn, you can feel the world owes you something.I have a hard time imagining mihawk being salty 20 years ago over not getting a promotion. As in, career minded mihawk? He doesn't even care that a charlatan like buggy technically outranks him in the eyes of the world. Ok, he cares a tiny bit but not so much that he doesn't see this as having more pros than cons.