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The Uchiha were sleeping, thats a key factor. And Obito helped. Itachi was a master of stealth, he literally went house by house assassinating everyone. Tobi probably took care of the guards on patrol. Sunas attack was made when literally all of Konohas forces were gathered, so they essentially too on the full might of Konoha with whatever they managed to sneak in and the Sound nins. The uchiha likely had a strategy akin to what Danzo/Itachi pulled on them.The Uchiha were taken out within the course of a single night.
Sure, there were strong Uchiha in the village, who would have been harder to kill, but the majority were probably children, the elderly, and people who weren't mission-experienced expert battle-hardened ninja.
Also, look how long it took for the Sand village attack to get cleaned up. It is likely that they brought some of their strongest ninjas to that fight (they brought Gaara, their only jinchurichi, ffs) and it was over in an afternoon.
The Uchiha would have been having to fight every clan within Konohagakure.
Best I could see them doing would be a tactical retreat.
For the first point, they had absolutely no idea about anything regarding Itachi. For the second and third points, its happened plenty of times in real life (mostly with slaves who would ask for the opposing power to lend them weapons so that they could help), I dont see why it wouldn't happen here.Firstly, the leaders in Konoha knew what the Uchiha were plotting (due to Itachi) and were always knew their plans 1 step ahead of them.
Secondly, the Uchiha probably understood that there was no way they could trust any of the other countries.
Also, they probably wondered what the point in trying to brutally overthrow one leader, to sell yourselves into subservience to another, would be.
And Itachis does? Even though his circumstances are far more justifiable then Danzos?Danzo's actions were pure plot convenience – they don't impact on the integrity [in a narrative sense] of his overall character at all, in my opinion.
Not that I think anyone other then the Uchiha rebels were idiots.
A proficient pawn and killer doesn't at all translate into someone who has the authority to contest or intervene into the arguments of the figure heads of the village.Someone who is asking a 13 year old boy to kill his family (and trusts him to do as much).
It appears that in the Naruto world, children grow up fast. They are given much greater responsibility at a much younger age.
Of course they would trust the opinion of a Uchiha, when they are trying to plan out a horrific genocide on the Uchiha – through the use of that said Uchiha.
He knows his clan best.
He knows how they think, what they are likely to do, what they desire, who they are, better than anyone else.
Not when leaking the information will directly lead to the massacre of the entire clan in one way or another and he is full aware of that fact.Asking someone to leak information about their family and asking them to brutalize their family are 2 different things.
What did he discuss with him? I recall nothing other then the promise to keep Sasuke safe from harm.Well, Hiruzen, the defacto leader, certainly did discuss with Itachi.
We have very different definitions of duped here lol.He was duped into murdering his girlfriend, his friends and family.
Arresting the Uchiha leaders would have led to nothing but even more resentment. And that decision would turn on him ten folds. I wonder if arresting Danzo was as easy as you make it out to be. Danzo is someone who had considerable influence himself, and technically he hadn't done any direct crime either.His ineffectual nature meant that it isn't possible to say what he was thinking.
Had he wanted to, arresting Danzo would have been possible, as would arresting the Uchiha leaders.
But then the Civil war would have happened regardless, and even more casualties would have arisen then needed, at worst the entirety of Konoha getting flattened by another super power. He also had the hokages word that Sasuke would be protected. And the reason he continued on living was to make sure that the elders respected their end of the bargain, even going to konoha personally as to warn the elders that just because Hiruzen is gone does not mean their end of the bargain is finished (this was stated in the manga).As for 'saving his younger brother' – he knew he couldn't trust Danzo in this either. He'd have been better taking Sasuke with him and mind-fucking him into thinking something else happened (thus having to flee), had he really wanted to ensure Sasuke's safety from Danzo.
Well the one you listed here was definitely not an option.There are many things he could have done.
Most definitely not an option, since they would obviously tell the conspirators (which seemed to be the entire police force) and that would only escalate things.Hell, he could have told the Uchiha who were living happily in the city and the regular civilians about the plot.
For the attack? That wouldnt result in anything short of the bulk of the Uchiha getting arrested, which, as I stated previously really would not do anything short of delay the inevitable. Also, at that point he would loose favour of the Uchiha, so he wouldnt even be in the position to stop or anticipate the next rebellion. Which would only make things worse.The third would have been able to get ANBU/ninja there ready (had Itachi prewarned him).
Sure, but are you honestly suggesting the Uchihas get tried and thats the end of it? This leads back to the Pain point, it wouldnt end there. Another rebellion would occur again guaranteed. This is a world in which all the countries have a joint alliance, and there are still seemingly a bunch of villains trying to start shit.The fight might happen, but it would have been brief, the Uchiha could have been captured alive (there are numerous techniques shown in the series to do as much), tried – fairly, and the rest of the Uchiha would have seen justice prevail.
@Jammin Those dont correlate. FT had quite a ton of discussion going about it, that doesnt make it even remotely good. Especially not when the discussion is about how bad something in the series is.